Well I just find this intercontinental pissing contest deeply boring.
We're a bunch of music nerds squabbling on a public forum, you'd think we could find things in common to talk about.
But no, its got to be about who's more "real". Who uses Ableton, who uses hardware.
Who grew up in Michigan, who grew up in Europe. Who gives a shit? Really?
I work 7 days a week in a factory in Wisconsin, my room is a fucking shrine to disco. Is that "real" enough for the asshole contingent?
Can I just geek out about the music I love and not tread on anyone's toes now?
― initiate slut mode (Siah Alan), Sunday, 6 June 2010 09:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
All spot on. Less bitchin' more bobbins.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 6 June 2010 09:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://soundcloud.com/jacobburns/sorry
http://soundcloud.com/6one6/quantec-increased-awareness
Good music that I've been liking in the last couple weeks, all politics and ego aside.
― initiate slut mode (Siah Alan), Sunday, 6 June 2010 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
I like the denseness of that SH101 Acid track I must say.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 6 June 2010 10:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
i liked that snowdrift track
― plax (ico), Sunday, 6 June 2010 10:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
don't really hear whats so authentically boogie about it, could be on eskimo
― plax (ico), Sunday, 6 June 2010 10:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
Who needs zings when the people who stick up for you say shit like this? This pretty much sums it up more than any insult could.
he was talking about vahid! glad things are going well for you, shame you feel the need to make dour comments about music people like though, maybe you need more success to be happy enough that you don't need to hate other people. mostly the whole net/music fusion is fairly negative imo, others may disagree, but personally, and this is part coincidence, i have never loved what i do as much as i do now, amazingly there is life beyond blogging, who'd have thunk such a mad thing.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 6 June 2010 13:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
The funny thing is that I wasn't even being dour, I was being silly. It is great that you are taking the high road considering you are the one who started the whole thing.
Honestly, I don't hate you. To me you represent what was bad about the last decade and every day I see that stuff getting swept away more and more. It is like being mad at Hawtin for bad mnml in 2006, it is so discredited that there really isn't any point in getting worked up about it. It is good to hear that you have moved on to something that you are better suited for.
This is the last I will post on this thread for awhile. I don't have time between a new job, family, and music.
It depends, it is only real enough if you work for a union in something hardcore like a foundry or a stamping plant. Light industrial assembly doesn't count. (joking)
I am sorry if I got you worked up, I was not trying to zing you.
― your original display name is still visible. (Display Name), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
you should prolly start proofreading your posts if you don't want them all to sound like hateful snark btw
― plax (ico), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
XP No worries.
And its silicone rubber molding, I get blisters, but not on a regular basis.
I honestly think that this whole argument could be avoided if you just think of mnml and techno as being completely separate musical entities with occasional similarities. I like minimal, but mostly the high end Perlon in 2003-05 variety. I just think of it as an extension of minimal composers like Reich and the whole New York school mixed with the last bits and pieces of Euro rave.
Do I think that makes it superior to good techno? No, its just different. Different set of tools and different aesthetics.
No one is really making bank off it anymore so I don't really know if there's anything left to hate on.
But I do really love the kind of tech funk that comes out on Wolf and Lamb for instance. Lee Curtiss, that kind of thing.
Anyone hear that track up on Little White Earbuds by Gadi Mizrahi and Soul Clap? About a month ago?
― initiate slut mode (Siah Alan), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 05:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i dig that track. saw soul clap dj a week or so ago and it was really fun.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 05:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
the new horizontal ground (005) is very nice
― djkomisch, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
still dour...oh well. carry on all.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
i dunno, if you imagine it all being read by like rupaul or something its kinda fun.
haven't heard this new horizontal ground, but i've been pretty intrigued since their RA podcast
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 19:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
disco nihilist i like your music and respect your hardline
― cutty, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
anybody hear the art bleek record?
i never heard jichael mackson before but i like his new single a snake in da system a lot
― cherry blossom, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 22:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
Also I guess its 2009 but I finally managed to track down a copy of San Soda's purple ep on We Play House and found someone to digitize it for me because i have no record player these days and I like to listen to music when I go for a walk or get the bus. Its very good, really feeling his stuff at the moment theres another good one on a podcast he did but i dont think its released:/
― cherry blossom, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 22:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
thanks for the horizontal ground info. 1-4 are all awesome.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah horizontal ground is excellent. seems like there's a slight resurgence of good uk techno recently -- the last few releases on perc trax have been outstanding and completely essential, frozen border which is affiliated with horizontal ground has also been great, and the two new sandwell district records that just came out are some truly "dope" "shit" as they say in the us of a
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
enjoying forward strategy group also. this is one of my favourite tracks this year
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
what are the new sandwell district records?
― cutty, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 01:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=7505
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
am enjoying the new raudive ep on wires. soulless minimal techno with a touch of early 80s darkwave. sounds as if ike yard made a house track
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Thursday, 10 June 2010 13:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
loving the new dvs1 record as well
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
the forward strategy group remix of perc is great! and whoever said 'dour', can't agree. this style of music is very emotional - ina strange way
― djkomisch, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
loving the new art bleek record
― cutty, Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am digging the art bleek.
anyone heard the Mathew Jonson album? pretty awesome imo.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
haven't listened to the album yet but his fact mix/live set is great. i pretty much love everything he does though
― like a guttenberg, strong with your mane (another al3x), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
sounds as if ike yard made a house track
oooh i hope this is as good it sounds in my head!
any thoughts on the recent mole eps? they sounded kinda samey to me and didn't leave much impression on first listen, but for the lost/there's hope took a little while to sink in and ended up being on of my favorite things last year.
― like a guttenberg, strong with your mane (another al3x), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
loving this record
― fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
As mentioned on today's post on ISM, TR One with some Serious heat:
― matt2, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 00:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
Is anyone else enjoying the elektro guzzi stuff? Not heard the full LP yet but what I have heard so far has been excellent.
― Neil A.Simpson, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
i like the idea of elektro guzzi but the end result kinda left me cold....
― djkomisch, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
That's interesting as I don't really like the idea of EG ('band plays minimal/berghain(ish)/etc techno on guitar bass drums') but am finding the end result really worthwhile. I wouldn't say it was warm exactly but it really works for me, maybe not as danceable music but certainly as listenable techno related stuff.
― Neil A.Simpson, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 11:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
ah, interesting, i've seen EG mentioned but never really knew what they did. i've messed around on instruments attempting similar stuff with friends who are into techno, but didn't really have the ambition to get that tight. its tough to be so restrained on guitar/bass/drums. funny that they don't even use a synth; i guess that might take away from the novelty a bit. i'm curious to hear the album.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
another al3x: thanks for mentioning that Mathew Jonson FACT mix, (((d-_-b)))<--me right now
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 17 June 2010 05:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
strictly should be in the 2009 thread
this remix of Rick Wilhite - Dreams Of Yesterday (Rick's Never Will Forget mix) samples Princes 'Computer Blue'.
Is there another track from recent years that also sampled that section of Computer Blue?
― tres vorbei Bestie (micarl), Monday, 21 June 2010 07:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
On the new/forthcoming Planet E tip, this new Urban Tribe is niiiiiice:
http://soundcloud.com/planetedetroit/urban-tribe-insolitology
― matt2, Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:30 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark
"niiiiiice" is a bit of an understatement here -- three pristine and gorgeous high-tempo techno trax and one incredible melancholy electro track that sounds like prime black dog -- maybe a few more "i's" are required. stunning ep
― wavestation (r1o natsume), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
maybe the black dog reference put you all off slightly; but there's definitely a balil style of melody in "insolitology"
― wavestation (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
bet ilx user vahid loves this record
― wavestation (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 00:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
references to prime black dog are some of the least off-putting things I can think of!
― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 00:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
not a patch on the mo'wax album, sadly
:-(
liked mystic tribe ai a whole lot better
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 05:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
Elektro Guzzi podcast at RA - http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=212
― Neil A.Simpson, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
I haven't heard EG's podcast yet. I am only judging the project on the first 10" which was OKish. the main reason why i am disappointed is because patrick pulsinger is involved and he did some really amazing music on his own for cheap, r&s etc during the 90s. in EG he is only one of three people, so maybe his voice isn't as loud!
― djkomisch, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
ok i've listened to this elektro guzzi album twice today and damn. it is excellent. i guess i'm the type of person who thinks that conceptually this type of thing is a good idea to begin with (no offense to minimal/berghain-style techno) but usually bands like this make records that are a lot less interesting than this one
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
elektro guzzi podcast is unbelievable, has anyone seen them play?
cos like
― plax (ico), Thursday, 24 June 2010 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
also
soul clap - extravaganza, which is super sensual blurry rnb/male diva vocal house
― plax (ico), Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
new track by Moritz Von Oswald on Cocoon Comp J is sweet.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 25 June 2010 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.discogs.com/Robert-Hood-Omega/master/254368
Anybody heard this yet?
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink