Rush: Classic or Dud?

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Unforgettable 2002 São Paulo concert (maybe better than 'Rush in Rio'). Hope they come to Brazil this time.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

And Caravan is awesome.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

A band like Rush would normally play a much larger outdoor stadium where the tickets would be more like $70 to $100 with fees. I've vowed never to go to those shows again, as they're not very fun, and lousy value. However Charter One Pavilion is smaller. It's all metal fold-out chairs and high school-style bleachers, and it seemed like all seats had a good view of the stage and weren't too far away. I saw Dio w/ Heaven & Hell there last year, and it sounded great.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 5 June 2010 00:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've seen Tom Petty there, Destiny's Child, Wu-Tang, Stevie Nicks and a couple of other things there, and it's a great place to see a show.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 June 2010 01:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

My (modest) feature review of the documentary:

http://wweek.com/editorial/3631/14141/

Nate Carson, Thursday, 10 June 2010 01:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

Nice work Nate!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 June 2010 01:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Even if Geddy Lee’s banshee wail drives you up the wall, one viewing can’t help but bring him a little closer to your heart.
excellent sentence :)

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

the Doc is playing in Chicago (one night only!) at the new Icon theater on Roosevelt at Clark...

only problem is that I have an old high school friend in town that I need to hang out with and I'm pretty sure she isn't a huge Rush fan, and even if she was, there is the free Otis Taylor / Hubert Sumlin thing over at Millennium Park, and I love both those dudes to death. Man there is SO much competing shit in Chicago this weekend it is nuts. the aforementioned conflict on Thursday, then Blues Fest all weekend, Lit Fest all weekend, Cubs/Sox series, Hawks parade on Friday, Dave Holland is in residence at the Jazz Showcase now thru Sunday, and somehow I gotta fit in the USA/England match on Saturday... egads

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

have to say that I'm going back and listening to some of the 80s Rush I never gave a chance to back when I was a fan, and these are *huge* productions. Grace Under Pressure is killing my poor laptop speakers, sound is everywhere.

Dominique, Thursday, 10 June 2010 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

grace under pressure is kinda of a masterpiece IMO

the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2010 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Love that record. Always makes me wonder how the fates would have treated the band had the booked producer, one Steve Lillywhite, not backed out at the last minute.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm going to see the doc tonight in chicago -- seems like it would be more fun to see it in a theater full of people vs dvd
it's reserved seating!

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm missing the theatrical release to be in Hollywood w/Yob. Can't complain.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 10 June 2010 21:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

i missed the first ten minutes of the movie, but what a joy it was! i especially loved the lady from WMMS when she talked about how they broke "working man" -- that's one of the stations i grew up listening to and it was fun to hear the discussion of midwestern rock fans. it's SO true.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 11 June 2010 12:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

This movie is such a blast, I had a big, stupid grin on my face during the whole thing, as did everyone else in the jam-packed theatre tonight.

I'm really glad the doc was so thorough, I was worried they'd gloss over the 82-87 era, which I'm fondest of.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 12 June 2010 03:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Caught the docu on Thursday night, and it was brilliant. Can't stop listening to all Rush, now. Sheesh.

J, Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Rush is so genuinely inspirational. Irony free, but totally with a sense of humor. Utmost respect.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 13 June 2010 04:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

" I was worried they'd gloss over the 82-87 era, which I'm fondest of."

That's probably my least favorite Rush era. And they are by far one of my favorite bands.

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 14 June 2010 13:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've been in northeast Ohio visiting family and I've heard "Tom Sawyer" 2x and "Working Man" once on the radio. <3

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

Must be listening to WNCX 98.5!

I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm seeing the film tonight!!!

Moodles, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's the station!!

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Monday, 14 June 2010 19:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Rush doc is on VH1 Classic at 9 tonight (EST), kids!

iago g., Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh man subdivisions

mookieproof, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

If I only had cable...

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh sweet! Half an hour away!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's also showing on plain ol' VH1, FYI. Watching now.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 27 June 2010 01:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Rush doc is excellent, except my god were they weird, even weirder than I though

iago g., Sunday, 27 June 2010 02:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

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iago g., Sunday, 27 June 2010 02:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

OK, wow, Neal Peart is freaking me out...I am going to have to read this thread carefully after this things ends.

iago g., Sunday, 27 June 2010 02:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol @ teenage Alex being a little shit at his parents' dinner table.

After that, it got really really good. And I'd forgotten what a demanding listen Hemispheres is. I'm going to have to dig it out asap.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 03:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol @ teenage Alex being a little shit at his parents' dinner table.

What killed me was, who thought, "Hey man, Alex is telling his parents he's quitting school; we gotta get this on film!" ?

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 June 2010 04:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also got a laugh at the RATM dude being escorted out of the backstage room Neil Peart was in at Neil's request. I can understand shying away from throngs of yelling, grabby fans because it makes you anxious, but what the hell was RATM guy doing that warranted a forceful ejection? Inquiring minds...

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 05:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm so pissed I missed it. Again. No listings for it to show again.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 27 June 2010 05:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed it overall (it definitely made me want to listen to a lot more of their music); I just wish it had more hardcore musical discussion. Oh, well.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

but what the hell was RATM guy doing that warranted a forceful ejection?

"I heard you like that Ayn Rand shit."

"SECURITY!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think being in RATM is reason enough.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 June 2010 14:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

I got a lot of enjoyment out of this film, but I am definitely the target audience.

My biggest complaint is that they could have spent more time on the post-Moving Pictures albums. It felt like the 80s to present day piece went by too quickly compared to the 70s portion.

I loved all the celebrity interviews though, especially Billy Corgan, Trent Reznor, Jack Black, and Gene Simmons. It's just great to hear these guys geek out about Rush in the same way that I would. You don't necessarily expect to hear Trent Reznor waxing nostalgic about the synths on Power Windows, but why wouldn't he? I know I do.

Moodles, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also, the clips of Rush playing high school dances and discussion of kimonos was A+.

Moodles, Sunday, 27 June 2010 18:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

The part about about them playing Caress of Steel for Paul Stanley in the back of the tour van and him not getting it was completely lolz for me, because I can just imagine the dumbfounded look on his face upon hearing something like "The Necromancer."

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

"I'm not quite sure where I'll stop, but it'll probably be somewhere around Presto."

Personally Phil, I'm not so keen on Presto and Roll the Bones as I am on their "return to rock" album Counterparts. I think you'd find some songs you like on that one.

As for wanting more discussion of the music, buy the Popoff book!

You have a lot to look forward to. I recently played 2112 for my brother and his reaction was "wow, this sound like Iron Maiden, only it's from 1976."

Nate Carson, Sunday, 27 June 2010 19:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

I really like Presto. It was a little more back-to-basics without completely shedding the synthy stuff from the 80s. Counterparts/Test For Echo/Vapour Trails really did nothing for me, but Snakes & Arrows was a huge return to form.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 27 June 2010 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

i don't think they really captured what a cultural landmark album 'moving pictures' was. everyone in my junior high school had that record, not just the rush geeks, everyone. maybe it was a michigan thing, the same as the tragically hip selling out arenas once upon a time. but yeah they are some weird dudes, neil peart most especially, watching him made me feel really uneasy except for maybe during the mullet and handlebar moustache phase.

keythhtyek, Monday, 28 June 2010 04:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

I finally saw it on the big screen tonight. It's gotten a second run at another cool indie theater in Portland.

Still the most profound part of the film for me is when they describe how 2112 set them free for the rest of their career.

Nate Carson, Monday, 28 June 2010 09:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Will be loading the first 12 albums (debut through Hold Your Fire, no live albums) into my iPod today. The Project Begins!

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 28 June 2010 12:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

"My biggest complaint is that they could have spent more time on the post-Moving Pictures albums"

That's because if you watch the movie, most of the interviewees, especially Alex Lifeson, describe those albums as completely sucking, which, for the most part, they do. I'm glad after watching this movie that opinion has been vindicated, none of this "Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows are the two greatest albums ever made" challopsy bullshit.

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 28 June 2010 13:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess I missed the part where Alex Lifeson said "All the albums we've recorded for the last 30 years completely suck."

Not sure where anyone is saying that Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows are two of the greatest albums ever made, but they are both really good. So are Signals, Counterparts, Vapor Trails, and Snakes and Arrows. All the rest have their fair share of great tunes as well.

I don't think that Rush is trying to disown any of these albums. Their live show tends to have quite a lot of songs from the post-Moving Pictures era. It would have been nice to take a little more time with these past 30 years in the film, but it probably would have been a much longer film.

Moodles, Monday, 28 June 2010 14:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

this reminds me to mention the major larfs in the restaurant when the waitress only recognized geddy lee
i liked that facet of the movie, the "look how NICE these guys are" -- i realize that doesn't have anything to do with the music, like at ALL, but i will listen to rush if i want to think about the music. i really liked the personal aspect of the movie.

i wanted to hug these guys at the end of the movie, i just LOVED them. i never knew much about them beyond their music, so it was all pretty new to me. i knew they were smart, Canadian, and pretty clean cut comparatively, but nothing more than that.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Monday, 28 June 2010 14:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess I missed the part where Alex Lifeson said "All the albums we've recorded for the last 30 years completely suck."

^ You must have seen an edited version of the movie.

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

It would have been nice to take a little more time with these past 30 years in the film

^ no, it would have been better to have said what they did, that they made some serious mistakes in the '80s, and then beefed it up with more '70s stuff. If you dont think they were trying to back away from some of their '80s stuff, especially Lifeson, then please send me some of what you were smoking while you were watching it.

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:04 (4 years ago) Permalink


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