Should funky house scepticism be assigned the same level of global importance as, say, climate change denial?
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/reviews/2008/roska-the-climate-change-ep.jpg
course bruv
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
haha am i crazy or is dream (of petchy fame) doing some dazed essex spoken word over black coffee's 'superman' not some magically brilliant shit? 67mins, new marcus show
― r|t|c, Friday, 4 June 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
like it's a great song anyway but i'd never have thought it'd be quite right for a funky set - somehow dream's managed to quotidianize its innate deep house sophistication into a daydream by the pier with an ice cream. seems to ring true right at the heart of that bassline/nu-soul sugar axis
― r|t|c, Friday, 4 June 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
all that and marcus still plays a bit of lil silva 'against yaself' over the top and then mixes out into 'house girls 8'. best music ever
― r|t|c, Friday, 4 June 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread is amazing but it's so long and hard to scan through - what was that business about a UK funky night in London aimed at gays that I hope I didn't imagine? Is this still an actual thing? Here in Glasgow I've yet to find a decent club night where I'll hear this stuff with a bit more regularity than the Numbers/LuckyMe axis allows, and I'm currently planning a summer jaunt down south with an "underground homo thug" so this would be icing on the cake.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 4 June 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
really really love the dummy-sell in the aramac 'hurt inside' tune played at 27 mins where you're expect a sledgehammer drop and get sweet 2step canderel instead. also who is "khaneo" with that twilit number at 95 mins?
Cosmic revenge for me working out "Carnao" - I tried endless spelling variations of "Aramac" to track down "Hurt Inside" after hearing it on the 1 June show, only to get led back to this thread!
AWESOME tune.
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 June 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
This guy is great btw. On his Facebook page he describes his "band members":
Members: Cubase, Korge Keyboard, Halion Sampler, Edirol Speakers, Cora, Bongos, Balafunk
http://www.facebook.com/aramacmusic#!/aramacmusic?v=app_2405167945
"Friday Night" is great too.
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 June 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
just cos he says balafunk...
i've just done the lazy thing and listened to the altered natives album instead of having a traxsource session. i guess it's ok but maybe a bit indelicate with the acid cues - would rather something more along the lines of 'afterlife riddim' and 'restless native'. ('i'm just a crush' is fun though.)
felt a little last week like i'd glimpsed some fleeting new acidy societal geometry while digesting carneo and the new ne-yo song at the same time, but i forget what i was on now tbh.
― r|t|c, Saturday, 5 June 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
rtc where do you listen to all these marcus sets?
― teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 5 June 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://rinse.fm/index.php/podcasts every week
funk butcher and funkystepz are also good supplemental listens too
― r|t|c, Saturday, 5 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
that most recent marcus is a funky vocals showcase for the first 40 mins before it gets all mixxy, just so u know.
talking of funk butcher btw - on his most recent show a guest-starring marcus mentioned 'pull me close' as fb's first production so i guess that's that issue solved. (fb also goes on to play a refix he'd done of of mavado's 'weh dem a do' which again has a loose-limbed broken beatish vibe to it; they then discuss doing a modern funky bashment set before dropping a funky mix of I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT instead.)
― r|t|c, Saturday, 5 June 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Surprised that people don't seem to be responding to the Lil' Silva remix of T2 - would have thought its sturm und drang would be appealing to people?
It's verging on symphonic.
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 June 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oi you shittaz how comes no one posted this up earlier - canny donaeo x leftside/dr evil x 'pass out' combo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKblg-5dU90
goes off though!
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
shantie & dream killin it on marcus right now btw, oh gosh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Haven't heard the Donae'o, will check when I get home.
Excited about the prospect of Shantie and Dream on Marcus. A recent Petchy show was posted on Dissensus and I was listening thinking "okay Toppsy and Hot S can you get off the microphone for a second and let Dream have a go..." for most of the time.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
What do you guys think of this?
Manipulation Listen & Download
― krazyvibez, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i was googling for the tracks in tim's top ten upthread and the first search result for devine collective gouse girls was this thread. do you have a link dude?
― teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
There was a video on facebook, but it appears to have been taken down. Probably your best bet is just to download a recent marcus nasty set from the rinse podcast page. He seems to play the tune (along with ill blu's unnamed monster tune - often mixed together) every week at the moment. You'll know it because it's the tune that samples the hail-on-tin-roof percussion from Dennis Ferrer's "Hey Hey".
― Tim F, Friday, 11 June 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
A couple of things:
1) That Donaeo tune is MASSIVE, INTENSE etc etc Dude is a genius.
2) The Marcus/Funk Butcher/Rankin/Shantie/Dream set is psychotically good. The last 45 minutes or so in particular just go off.
Not sure which bit is more O_O: Shantie on top of the Dumplin Remix of "Reign", Dream on top of Naughty Raver's "Drama", Dream on top of Aramac's "Hurt Inside", all of them on top of Scotty D's "The Sound"...
― Tim F, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Does anyone know what the first track on the June 9th Marcus Nasty podcast is??
God, what a great set.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Monday, 14 June 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
that donaeo track is cool but the vocals arent as good as the beat. sounds like a hip hop posse cut as funky. not sure if it works.
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 14 June 2010 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Louise Williams- "I Wonder" (produced by MVP) from the 19th May Marcus Nasty set is, erm, wonderful. She reminds me of Ny ie can really really sing...
― Martinclark, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Whats good guys? sorry for the complication in spelling AramacBelow are links you can find out more about my music. www.facebook.com/aramacmusicwww.youtube.co/aramacmusicwww.twitter.com/aramacmusic ((follow me for updates)www.myspace.com/aramacmusic
Thanks for the support
― aramac, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
CORRECTION YOUTUBE URLwww.youtube.com/aramacproducer
― aramac, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Cheers!
Everyone else, this is the TUNE:
http://www.youtube.com/aramacproducer#p/a/u/0/3JLRuRfjQPo
― Tim F, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd not heard devine collective/mad one 'eyes on you' (58" on the recent weeksey/hhb set) before, is it a new one? not a great deal to it i spose but it's cute and different.
if one can afford to be picky about the marcus mc set i thought there shouldve been more dream lyrics and less sweep dem gally ones if u catch my drift - he took a fair while to find the right note inbetween shants (GOLDEN GOD ON THIS SET!!!) and ranks imo.
also that mac 10 riddim - called '24 hours' i think - is a monsterrrr.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link
As in Dream in narrative-building mode rather than catch-cry mode?
My favourite of his current lyrics are:
1) She said 'Dream you're an arsehole...' etc.
2) Par for them/Omarion/We just laugh at them/WE JUST LAUGH AT THEM/AND THEN WE LAUGH AGAIN etc.
Which category would you put those in?
Yeah "24 Hours" is ace, kind of washes away the sour taste left by "Sequencer".
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
well yeah they're both geezerish, but tbh maybe it's just i felt acting out the chuckle on "laugh at them" every time wasnt bearing repetition in the same way rankin's do so forever lovably
in partic i was missing the other "par 4 them" one but i'd have to listen to that petchy again to recall the others
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a par for them, it's a par for themuh ohh! man are writing bars againtell em tell em tell empass a penman are back in fashion like cardigansit's hard for them, not to be jarred againride with medon't get scarred againkeep telling them man music's in my genes and i guess that it's just not a part of them, part of themsee we never part againlyrics go over the chest and the heart againwe tell em nah that lyric never hisso i suggest you start again, start againmoving smart again, 2010you could put me in the charts again
etc
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F2w8TMlTbQ
slowly grown to love this one
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
but tbh maybe it's just i felt acting out the chuckle on "laugh at them" every time wasnt bearing repetition in the same way rankin's do so forever lovably
Or indeed Shantie's loveable faux-surprise on "WHAT'S GWANING CUZ??"
<3 forever.
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG I adore this Drake remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdRFqYopBRI
Absolutely love that stripe of funky tune that's like vaguely lethargic menacing bug-eyed 3am post-"Killer R&B-house - this, the Major Note$ remix of J-Will's "Deja Vu", the O.B. remix of Addictive's "Domino Effect"...
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
And you can download it here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m0qdl6
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link
That should be post-"Killer" R&B-house... as in Adamski/Seal's "Killer".
not quiiiite exactly what you're talking about perhaps but i love this eastwood 'right there' vocal number round the hour mark on the 12th june marcus - it gets a perfect prologue coming after lr groove's 'just believe' and carneo if that's any indication.
(lr groove in particular deserves merit for his stuff this year - just brilliantly well-crafted rollers. havent got a decent handle on eastwood's oevure yet but i hear his name a lot - if memory serves didn't he used to be a particularly boshing grime producer or summink...?)
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha I was coming back here to talk about "Right Here" after listening to it last night... Massive tune! And more delicate than anything else I've heard from Eastwood (yeah he is or was a pretty lairy grime producer normally I think).
LR Groove seems to be king of the tribal cuts - "rollers" is a good word for this sound though, they do remind me of say DJ SS circa 1994.
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
that drake remix!
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I know how good is it!
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.zshare.net/audio/77330247f37aa221/
here's one of those screamingly popular radio rips for that eastwood if anyone's... interesteddddd.
while i remember can i also just nominate fingaprint & tenneka's 'your body' for an awesome 2010 funky vocal commendation (why doesnt anyone play it more category). you can hear it first track on here:
http://www.mixcloud.com/djtrizzy/deep-funky-soulvol-2-summer-vibes/player/
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.mixcloud.com/wirelesssound/wireless-sound-100-funky-vol-2/
can also recommend this other mix for those still just too, too delicate for that ruff rugged radio raw uncut
― r|t|c, Friday, 18 June 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Mr F your enthusiasam for this stuff makes me :D :D :D
I've really been digging that Champion promo mix. Petchy in general, he has to be the best funky DJ right now, its just pure good time vibes when he's on, I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNnCzQS_dQE :D, wish he'd make his way up north a bit so I could catch him live mind... and peeps like Lil Silva, Altered Natives and Ill Blu all get picked up for releases by labels. DVA is killing it too Natty is still gettin rinsed over here, plus this just dropped: http://soundcloud.com/becoming-real/fast-motion-dvas-hi-emotions-remix kind of epic and really mixable. I've been playin Shitta by Marcus Nasty & Bassboy quite a bit too I didn't expect a bassline producer to hook up with Marcus and make such an addictive lil gem. MC Creed's Generate prob by Esko is pretty cool too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpS67rFVL10. Annie Mac was repping that Donaeo track 'I'm Fly' on Radio One from some massive live event with loads of kids the other day when I was listening in my car on the way to somewhere it was pretty cool they seemed to dig it.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 18 June 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
rinse got a radio license today after 16 years as a pirate
― Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Can I assume you all have just not bothered to download the Drake remix from the link I posted above, or that you are crazy in not liking it much??
― Tim F, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a pretty great track, though I think I prefer the remix by Jammy.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i wasn't able to d/l mp3s in barcelona, but i hate drake too much to be receptive of even remixes, unless they seriously REMOVE HIM completely (from LIFE preferably)
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
roska was wicked at sónar btw, so weird and good to see him playing on such a massive stage. he played a really housey set that seemed to alternate between sweeter, soulful sounds and anthems, and the dryer, percussive stuff that focuses on odd rhythms that's beloved of tim (and that reminds me most, weirdly, of dudes like untold and ramadanman in its relentless focus on the beats over, well, anything else). and then he played a blend of "axel f" and "pon de floor".
ms dynamite's "get low" was THE anthem of the festival btw.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
The Ramadanman resemblance in particular isn't that surprising - even his dubstep stuff often resembles funky ("Blimey" is a good example of this) while "Wad" is still the best dubstep-producer-attempts-funky-track ever.
But yeah a lot of the stuff I consider "anthems" this year (Devine Collective's "House Girls 6", Emvee's "Windrush Riddim", Aramac's "Hurt Inside", Naughty Raver's "Drama", Smooth Kriminal's "Stop Dat", the Andy J & S-Tee remix of "Reign", all the Marcus Nasty/Bassboy tunes, Undisputed's "Sunglasses" carrying over from last year, all of LR Groove's best tracks) are basically just "rollers" in the old jungle circa 1994 sense (see discussion with r|t|c upthread re LR Groove's "rollers").
In a lot of ways it's this stuff that is destined to be forgotten in the future, in much the same way that similar tracks were in the context of 2-step. Ultimately people remember vocal anthems of MC-driven tracks whether they approve of them or not, but a lot of listeners require a certain auteur-appreciation-consensus to really get behind rollers in any specific sense (rather than them just soundtracking a night out). Roska himself has, relatively speaking, benefited from this insofar as his own facility with this form allows him to act as a kind of focal point for people's appreciation of this sound (though obv a lot of Roska's productions like "I Need It" or "Wonderful Day" etc don't fit this mould at all).
he played a really housey set that seemed to alternate between sweeter, soulful sounds and anthems, and the dryer, percussive stuff that focuses on odd rhythms that's beloved of tim (and that reminds me most, weirdly, of dudes like untold and ramadanman in its relentless focus on the beats over, well, anything else). and then he played a blend of "axel f" and "pon de floor".
This sounds basically like "what you'd want" from a uk funky set generally (and I mean "you" as in I/we rather than as in "lex"). Roska's a pretty good DJ IMO.
― Tim F, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it was def what i wanted at the time, though i respond to that dry, bare-bones percussiveness a lot better outside of a uk funky context -one ramadanman set at plastic people a while back in particular blew my mind because there was so much space and so many intricate rhythms - but that's a context i was expecting a certain degree of aridity in anyway, and not so much sexiness or soulfulness. that's where i could really appreciate a track like "squark".
as a dj roska's ideally placed to bring them into a funky context i guess, given his more melodic and textural side. i'm not sure i'd really miss the perc-only stuff - they were the sections of the set where people's dancing slowed to a vague shuffle and where you started to worry that some people might wander off somewhere else.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 21 June 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh if you're talking about "Squark" kinda stuff that's not really what I mean.
I mean, "Get Low" before it was "Get Low" (when it was "Crackish") is basically the kind of thing I mean when I think of percussive uk funky jamz.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link