Brad Pitt Has Your Secret Shit: Rolling DC

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They call it the White House, but that's a (increasingly) temporary condition.

To each his reach, and if I can't cop, it ain't mine to hang.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 5 November 2008 22:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey guys we have to get this thread going again now that DC is the new BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD!

I DIED, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I SO want to move back.


B.L.A.M., Thursday, 6 November 2008 21:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

I am officially retired from breakdancing in the street. Ow.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 6 November 2008 21:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey Slate: fuck youuuuuuuu for reprinting a 15-year old column about "life in DC" and saying "it's still remarkable how little of the city's character has changed."

I DIED, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

orange line extending to NY? rendering of new 2nd Ave subway entrance.

I DIED, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh man that would be the best i would buy so many records and work pays the smartrip

69, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

that's the part of the upper east side with all the fresh-out-of-college banker types and shitty bars

gabbneb, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

So, I'm coming to join your cool place-to-be city some time around February. Pretty jammy timing. I've visited before but only for 2-3 days. I think I'll be living somewhere near Dupont Circle/19th, if I take over the apartment of the last incumbent in the job...

ljubljana, Friday, 7 November 2008 21:19 (7 years ago) Permalink


mookieproof, Friday, 7 November 2008 21:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

our football team is awesome

T-PALIN (daria-g), Friday, 7 November 2008 21:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

T-PALIN (daria-g), Friday, 7 November 2008 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

I get to learn the football rules!
Is that a real TV show embedded in that vid somewhere?

ljubljana, Friday, 7 November 2008 21:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

nah.. DC go go band Mambo Sauce had this song out for a while and finally made a video for it, so.. that's what they did. chuck brown shows up at the end to tell the police to let them go, I guess is the gist of it

T-PALIN (daria-g), Friday, 7 November 2008 21:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

Even your cheerleaders go on tour!

ljubljana, Friday, 7 November 2008 21:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm still trying to get my head around 15K ppl in DC voting for McCain? TOO MANY I DEMAND RECOUNT.

quincie, Friday, 7 November 2008 21:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

TOMBOT can you embed the mambo sauce vid at the top of the thread? tks.

I DIED, Friday, 7 November 2008 22:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm still trying to get my head around 15K ppl in DC voting for McCain?

T-PALIN (daria-g), Friday, 7 November 2008 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

who all had logins to there? I miss the roffles ;_;

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 7 November 2008 22:26 (7 years ago) Permalink


Mr. Que, Friday, 7 November 2008 22:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh shit


Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 7 November 2008 22:29 (7 years ago) Permalink


mookieproof, Friday, 7 November 2008 22:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can give LNS invites if anyone wants

I DIED, Friday, 7 November 2008 22:55 (7 years ago) Permalink


Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 7 November 2008 22:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

can read such threads as:

- Stolen undergarments on Saturday
- Manipulating men into LTRs and marriage
- FATTIE, but great in bed. Keeper?
- Is it possible to be super smoke and humble at the same time?
- whats the website to order generic Viagra
- How did you make up for election night depression?
- any hill staffers wanna release some tension?

I DIED, Friday, 7 November 2008 23:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

FATTIE, but great in bed. Keeper?


Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 7 November 2008 23:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

Is it possible to be super smoke and humble at the same time?

username on this question was "bho choom gang" right?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Saturday, 8 November 2008 00:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

See I always assumed the LNS crew lived in Bethesda/NOVA and thus would not be fucking with DCs polls.

quincie, Saturday, 8 November 2008 01:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

no much of LNS lives in DC west of rock creek park! Like YOU!

I DIED, Saturday, 8 November 2008 02:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah actually I think some of them live directly below me. PICK UP YOUR CIGGY BUTTS DOUCHES.

quincie, Saturday, 8 November 2008 02:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

who wants to pal around w/ terrorists next week?

Busboys & Poets
Mon, November 17
Author Event, William Ayers

I DIED, Monday, 10 November 2008 21:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey whatever happened to stephen x

mookieproof, Monday, 10 November 2008 21:55 (7 years ago) Permalink


I DIED, Monday, 10 November 2008 21:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

well, maybe. I don't know.

I DIED, Monday, 10 November 2008 21:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

sala thai is fine for delivery and take-out? I don't understand the point about mediocrity somehow profiting from the restriction - if a restaurant truly sucks, it goes out of business, no? As pointed out in the comments, Adams Morgan is packed to the gills with bars and restaurants and I wouldn't say it's any kinda amazing dining district. Brains, tell me how it is.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 06:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Sala Thai is eh. I used to eat there plenty before Rice and Regent Thai opened. Now I pretty much just do Rice since the last time I went into Regent Thai it smelled distinctly like rat poison.

This overlay needs to get changed but it's not really a problem as it stands - I know plenty of people looking at opening up in that corridor and they don't expect any problems getting a zoning exception.

I think new building in DC should require all retail on the ground floor without restrictions - this would drive retail rents way down and would negatively impact efficiency of new development somewhat, but it effectively translates to having developers subsidize cheap retail. Because of the building height limits DC retail spaces are overpriced and we lack a proportionate population to support retail, so lower rents could do a lot of good.

Mediocrity does profit from restriction sometimes - like with cabaret laws in NY.

I think the biggest factor in keeping bad restaurants open is lack of reliance on repeat business. Woodley Park is a great example of this - it's got the same demographics and a similar streetscape at Cleveland Park just up the street, but it's got a bunch of shitty places and Cleveland Park has, generally, very good ones. The large hotels in Woodley Park mean there are a bunch of tourists and conventioneers coming through who are going to eat at that random indian place or wherever because it's right between the Metro and their hotel - I don't think it's the locals keeping that row in business.

I don't think Yg's argument is valid here given the current state of development along 14th/U St. There are a lot of older struggling places in that stretch that would actually be less expensive for a restaurateur to buy out and remodel than a new space would be. If Sala Thai is able to stay open despite not doing very much business that just means they'll eventually be bought out by another operator that thinks they can maximize their volume in that space.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

our football team is awesome

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I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

Inauguration Organizers Plan for 4 Million on Mall


I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

shit is going to be lunacy

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

and fucking cold as hell

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

apparently i don't care about going to the inauguration, but i still want one of these

gabbneb, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink


Have they done this for previous presidents-elect? If not, this is a blatantly partisan move by an organization funded with taxpayer money.

Comment by Ryan Lile — November 20, 2008 @ 3:33 pm

my favorite part about this is that if you click dude's name it takes you to a site to buy $100 designer dog bowls

El Tomboto, Friday, 21 November 2008 00:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

I enjoy the fact that this thread is easily found in the search engine by querying for "pitt shit"


when would you be available to check out PROPERTY with your bro me
whenever is fine 'cause we just started looking and I haven't bothered about a lender yet

but tis the season for getting sweet deals on exposed brick & etc

TOMBOT, Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

Tombot taking the property-ownership plunge OH YEAH.

quincie, Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

I just got back from a very brief visit to your fine fine city and I am still getting over the fact that I'm going to be living near the fabulous Kramers book store rather than here. Though Kramer's website is a bit self-congratulatory, or at least the video is. ETA now some time in February, so will miss the Mall madness...

ljubljana, Monday, 24 November 2008 10:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Kramerbooks is a fairly small bookstore with an OK selection and decent beers and shitty food. And it's open 24 hours on the weekend. That's all.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

TOMBOT I am on crazy schedule for the next 2 weeks but should be OK to look at some places after.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

I live in Swindon now, so an ok selection and half decent food will do me fine for now :-) I'm afraid I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to cities at the moment...

ljubljana, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

Recommendations for better bookshops very welcome, thanks in advance...

ljubljana, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

Second Story Books in Dupont is pretty okay for used stuff. Other than that. . . Olsson's used to be the other big indie bookstore around here, but they shut their doors. So you're stuck pretty much with Borders and B&N's.

Mr. Que, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Today I had to explain to a born-and-bred Alabama boy in his 20s that DC is below the Mason-Dixon line.

"Oh," he said, "isn't it in, like, Maryland? Near Jersey."

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

xpost - never been anywhere near a polo match, but the ubiquitous ann taylor thing is real + this pressure to assimilate to dc conservative office dress codes. ugh

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 01:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

WTF this year with the killing coming back to my neighborhood. Are Lanier and Bowser really this dumb they can't figure out how to just restore the fucking drug TF?

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

bowser seems kinda clueless tbh

"i was supposed to be the Cool Gentrification Mayor"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

The latest from the alleged cool gentrification mayor

There, a gleaming new complex of apartments, offices and shops is planned above the Congress Heights Metro station — the kind of development that is similar to dozens around the still-gentrifying city over the past 15 years and one that could help make this community the next hot neighborhood.

To build the project, the developer would have to raze four rent-controlled apartment buildings where residents already feel they are no longer welcome. The tenants are largely poor, elderly and live on fixed incomes. They said they believe they are being pushed out by two politically connected developers, who have failed to make improvements to the four apartment buildings even as many residents live in squalor.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 October 2015 14:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

Oh that Georgetown private chatroom shit is the most Georgetown thing ever. Like the DC Urban Moms list after a visit from Max Jacobson. The idea that a white person who lives or works there needs to read a chat log to figure out their neighborhood is bigoted as fuck is hilarious. Burn that shit down. Except for the Benetton and the Mossimo Dutti. And the Levi's Store. And the DMV, also necessary. The rest though! It's the worst! Can we make this thread into our special room to report on when rich neighborhoods piss us off?

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 16 October 2015 01:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

In other gentrification whining news, I realized an interesting trend in the restaurants in my neighborhood: Everywhere that's open for lunch (read: before 4pm) is part of a chain or series of restaurants owned by successful restaurant business people - mark and ty neal, mike isabella, andy shallal, etc). Everywhere else that doesn't open until happy hour is either a one-shot or belongs to some ass hats who magically haven't managed to run their one other concept into the ground yet. The lesson here is if you can't get it together to be open for lunch then maybe you're in the wrong business! And I'm tired of going to the same five places whenever I want to get lunch out somewhere without a hike! *shakes fist at capitalism*

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Friday, 16 October 2015 01:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

I sympathize with your rage in general, Mr. Tomboto. Continue to fight the power. And I am a big fan of lunch, especially if there's a liquor license involved (because I am an unapologetic drunkard). Absolutely agree that more places should serve lunch. But I see mom and pop-ish lunch places all over the place; not sure where you mean.

Downtown and in Crystal City there are loosely-Asian buffet pay-by-the-pound places and a zillion delis in almost every office building. Ditto Skyline and L'Enfant and Rockville and Farragut/Dupont. For years of being an office drone I subsisted mainly on deli reubens and street hot dogs. Doesn't Rosslyn (i forget if that is still your hood) have Piola, Café Asia, Guajillo - and is not too far from 4 Courts, Guarapo, Amsterdam Felafel?

If one's anti-chain purism is such that Ben's or Busboys and Poets are now OMG BAD AND HATED CHAIN RESTAURANTS because there's more than one of them, I don't know what to say. Yes, those are JUST like Applebee's. Ditto Jaleo, District Taco, Lebanese Taverna, Ray's. Or, for that matter, the Palm, Legal, etc. Basically TGIF with nicer linens. Perhaps sometimes "successful" means you're doing something right.

Re: Isabella, Kapnos is walkable for me and they do lunch quite decently. So does Vine & Fig, Mussel Bar, Ser, Liberty Tavern, Thirsty Bernie's.

ice cream socialist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 October 2015 13:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

...Taqueria Poblano, Atlacatl, Majestic, Murphy's, 4 Sisters, Whitlow's, Cowboy Café, Kite Runner, El Ranchero, City Lights, Big Buns, Niwano Hana, La Caraquena...

ice cream socialist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 October 2015 13:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

Suburbanite me who lives in VA to be close to his VA dayjob is still disgusted by that Congressional Heights/St E's thing I mentioned above-- from giving Wizards/Mystics owner Leonsis an arena to the development now planned by the metro there. Folks I am mad at:

developer Geoffrey Griffis of CityPartners said he took an interest in the neighborhood back in 2008. Other Metro-accessible neighborhoods were booming, but Congress Heights wasn’t even on most investors’ maps, he said.

“I thought, here’s an opportunity to start to assemble something, to start to do something,” Griffis said in an interview.

To redevelop the area around the Metro station, he teamed with the Bethesda-based company Sanford Capital.

Over the next three years, Sanford Capital bought the four brick apartment buildings at 1309, 1331 and 1333 Alabama Ave. SE and 3210 13th St. SE for about $2.8 million.

Together, the companies laid out a plan calling for a 285,000-square-foot office building and about 208 apartments with ground-floor shopping. The project, Griffis said, would be “transformative,” bringing jobs and businesses to a long-neglected neighborhood.

“We’re not trying to run anybody off. If anything, we’re trying to get them to work with us so we can move at a faster pace,” Griffis said.

Some residents are wary. City inspectors have cited Sanford Capital for nearly three dozen violations, including rat infestations, failure to maintain minimum temperatures, obstructed drains, broken lights, splintered floors, leaking faucets and defective smoke detectors.

Residents have accused Sanford Capital of deliberately contributing old mattresses and furniture to a trash heap in one building’s parking lot. The company also owes more than $10,000 in back taxes on two of the properties, according to the D.C. tax office.[/I]

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 October 2015 14:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

Eesh. Disgusting and, sadly, not surprising.

ice cream socialist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 October 2015 14:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

I work in your neighborhood and they know how to be open for lunch, because Ballston is building density in office space as well as residential. Heck, the redevelopment of the Blue Goose parcel is exactly that. I'm living by 14th & U and I'm like hey my neighborhood is hopping! It's a bridge-and-tunnel destination! But it's like a freakin' dead zone until 5pm.

My point about the Neals, Isabella, Shallal et al. was that these are people who are demonstrably pretty good at the restaurant business, and all the "mom and pops" that aren't open for lunch are just being lazy. Literally you can walk down U or 14th all the way between columbia heights and logan and every place open for lunch is operated by people who are in the restaurant business to make lots of money. I look at all the other places and now I'm like, amateurs.

We do need more commercial space though. Whenever they finally tear down the reeves center I hope they put offices there and not more apartments.

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 October 2015 13:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

when our bank screwed up our property taxes the DC OTR was all over our shit. wasn't anywhere near $10,000 either. developers get away with so much shit

BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 October 2015 14:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

They've been attempting to gentrify my apartment building in Alexandria for 2 years now and it's a hilarious, asbestos-laden disaster.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 19 October 2015 04:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

Senor Tomboto, sorry for the snarkitude (think I mistook your point; I get you now).

As it happens I tried to have lunch with a friend in that hood a while back, and found the same thing. I wanted to go to Fainting Goat but they were closed. Ditto Vinoteca. I think Alero was open but meh. Nearing desperation ended up at Ben's Next Door, which is fine but does not exactly roxor one's soxorz.

Arlington's approach to affordable housing is nobly intended and sometimes succeeds - but it is very much swimming against the tide. The ratio of "affordable" to "at-market" rents in every new development is tweakable, and occasionally contributes to decent diversity. When I was young and underfunded I lived in a complex with a sliding scale (Woodbury Park, near Court House, run by the nonprofit AHC). At the time it was 60% "affordable" / 40% "market rate" - but "affordable" in these environs is still pretty steep compared to Manassas Park or whatever.

Accommodating current residents (as opposed to new ones who are non-rich). A lot of this development is happening in comparatively new spaces, though, and sometimes it leads to comical results.

For example, there's a church in Clarendon that decided to put an apartment building on top of the church. To do so they had to argue about whether or not they owned the air above their building. There are strong tax incentives for including affordable units in the building, and they of course wanted those. So they had to argue about whether or not a taxpayer-subsidized apartment that is on top of a church somehow violated church-state separation.

I know there are genuine heartbreaking human hardships all over, and I wish there were more we could do. But meanwhile this is the kind of silly argument we are having on this side of the river: if people see churchy signs and such while going to and from their subsidized apartments, does this constitute proselytizing, or imply state endorsement of a religious faith?

ice cream socialist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 19 October 2015 13:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Student activists announce sit-in in President DeGioia’s office, call for name change to Mulledy Hall

By Elizabeth Teitz on November 12, 2015 News
Georgetown students announced at a solidarity demonstration on Thursday, Nov. 12 that they are to begin a sit-in outside University President John DeGioia’s office on Friday morning to continue until administrators change the name of Mulledy Hall.

Several hundred students, faculty, and administrators attended the event, which was organized to call attention to racial disparities and discrimination at Georgetown as well as to send a message of support to activists across the country, including at University of Missouri and Yale University. The event, which was organized on Facebook, was hosted by Crystal Walker (SFS ‘16), Candace Milner (MSB ‘16), Queen Adesuyi (COL ‘16), Ayo Aruleba (COL ‘17), and Stephanie Estevez (COL ‘16).

The sit-in is to continue during the president’s business hours from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. until administrators change the name of Mulledy Hall, named for a former university president who sold 272 slaves to Louisiana in 1838 in order to raise money to pay off university debts.

Milner read off a list of demands from what she called a “working document,” which includes renaming McSherry Hall and the John Main Center, in addition to Mulledy Hall, installing plaques on unmarked graves of slaves on campus, the implementation of an annual program to mark slavery’s legacy at Georgetown, revision of campus tours to include information about the roles of black people in Georgetown’s history, mandatory training for professors on identity and diversity, and the creation of an “endowment to recruit black identifying professors.” The endowment should be “equivalent to the Net Present Value of the profit generated from the transaction in which 272 people were sold into bondage,” according to a document circulated by the Black Leadership Forum.

“We’ve been dialoguing enough. We are the university of dialogue,” said Walker who spoke at the event and sits on the Working Group on Slavery, Memory, and Reconciliation. “We want tangible change.”

The organizers also called for structural and cultural change on campus that reflects greater diversity and active progress.

“The culture doesn’t prioritize the needs of people of color,” said Antwan Robinson (COL ‘16). “You have to watch your backs on campus. It’s not always safe.” He spoke of feeling uncomfortable on campus due to a climate of racial intolerance and ongoing micro-aggressions, and urged students to speak up about the injustice they witnessed.

Administrators, including Dr. Todd Olson, vice president for Student Affairs, also attended the event.

“It’s very valuable to listen to our students tonight,” he said. “We are committed to continuing to engage with our students and make changes on our campus.”

After the event ended and participants dispersed, some lingered in Red Square, while Father Raymond Kemp, special assistant to the president and an adjunct professor in the Theology Department, walked through the square with one fist held in the air.

“This is solidarity, this is what I teach. It’s straight out of Papal doctrine,” he said. “This is exactly Catholic social teaching at its very best.”

This story will continue to be updated as more information becomes available.

Editor’s note: An error with regards to Antwan Robinson’s class year has been corrected. Robinson is in the College Class of 2016, not the College Class of 2017.

In addition, a sentence summarizing Robinson’s remarks at the rally has been updated. The sentence previously read, “He spoke of feeling uncomfortable at times walking on campus at night due to a climate of racial intolerance, and urged students to speak up about the injustice they witnessed.”

I read elsewhere about U of MD issues:

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 November 2015 15:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Not sure I agree with Yechon as top Korean

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 November 2015 17:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

The writer is including the whole region btw, not just DC itself

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 November 2015 17:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

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