funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

That DJ Sef site looks like a fantastic resource RTC. Think there may be a lot of potential overlap between some strains of African house and funky - the Ayobaness comp from South Africa seems to have a load of overlap with it, sonically, especially things like the Redlight tune upthread.

unngghhhh i STILL haven't caught up w/reading everything that happened in the week my laptop broke

ah yeah tim says nadia suliman sounds too much like amy winehouse - i don't hear it myself but it does make me think la winehouse would be a superb funky vocalist, at least going by the excellent bugz in the attic remix of "in my bed" from years ago

Did we ever talk about that Screama track with the goblin squiggles and the vocal "when you hold me tight..."

― Tim F, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 13:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJOse5Y4VA

haha omg seriously did we never do this? was the first ever screama one iirc and probably still remains his best - STUPENDOUS TUNE. it's a bit like cooly g but feminine.

btw matt if i see u posting on the fucking wonky guido thread again before at least checking out at least one of those sef comps for us i will do a wiley and throw a rock at your nan

talking of african house, have people been talking about the amazing ayobaness! south african comp anywhere on ilx? here would do as well as anywhere, i guess. this is my fav track on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNFpmMVuarU

btw matt if i see u posting on the fucking wonky guido thread again before at least checking out at least one of those sef comps for us i will do a wiley and throw a rock at your nan

Actually my nan's dead so I WIN.

Actually there is, incredibly, no thread for African house, as far as I can see. It probably deserves its own thread given how much there is out there. But yeah will check out mixes and report back.

(And yes, Ayobaness = totally one of the releases of the year)

tsk i wish dubsteppers would stop making that excuse 4 a change

ah yeah tim says nadia suliman sounds too much like amy winehouse - i don't hear it myself but it does make me think la winehouse would be a superb funky vocalist, at least going by the excellent bugz in the attic remix of "in my bed" from years ago

Yeah the "In My Bed" remix is exactly what I was thinking of. It's when Nadia sings "What is it you want from may" that I think of Amy. It's not a bad resemblance, and "No More" is a great song, but it's very profesh in a broken beat kinda way. Possibly I'm too committed to the slightly sickly/lopsided qualities of my favourite uk funky vocal tracks.

haha omg seriously did we never do this? was the first ever screama one iirc and probably still remains his best - STUPENDOUS TUNE. it's a bit like cooly g but feminine.

guilty lolz at this spot on summation.

Oi RTC I listened to one of those Sef mixes (the most recent one) and it's alright but nothing to get excited about. Closer to standard issue tasteful UK vocal house than funky, or the more bassy South African stuff. Also I'd have preferred, well, a bit more Africa in there, if you hadn't been told you'd never know where the music came from.

LOVE THIS TUNE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csh_-ioIcQs

perempay was AWESOME at tactile last night, played lots of south african house (inc "mirror dance"!)...

GUHH tim i thought i'd searched every possible googler variation looking for that tune this week! (tis what i thought was the "khaneo" one). can't listen again right now but it's really lingered in my mind since i first heard.

I know, it seems like it shouldn't be that memorable but something about it is entrancing. Love eerie funky.

The other Carneo beats on Youtube don't sound much cop, sadly.

Lex I assume you like Perempay's "Addicted"? It's certainly erm straightforward enough (not a criticism!) to be an anthem-not-anthem along the lines of "In The Air" etc, though curiously I don't hear it that much (maybe not enough DJs have copies yet).

i haven't (knowingly) heard "addicted"...

i like this new greenmoney/mz bratt track though - http://soundcloud.com/greenmoney/whos-greenmoney-feat-mz-bratt

For Lex, Matt DC, Titchy and etc doubting thomases, the vocal anthems of 2010 (that I can find on youtube):

Perempay & Dee - Addicted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hieiqxYJk

Screama & Farah - Kiss Me There
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVok8n7gsWI

Rudimental - Midnite Affair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0wfeUVliQ

T2 - Better Off As Friends (Lil' Silva Remix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDEqUeVSTE

Funk Butcher & Shea Soul - Pull Me Close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxbRgpaDL0Q

El-B ft Nat-More - I Feel (always played faster than it sounds here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhjZqtso_8

Addictive - Bad Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXfdIX43yQM

Great vocal tunes, Tim. The strings in the Champion remix kill me.

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but this weekend Hard House Banton placed a link on his Twitter account to some mixes he's done: http://www.filefront.com/user/HardHouseBanton

In particular, the May / June 2010 mix is fantastic. ...contains both that Funk Butcher vocal tune (Pull Me Close) and Delinquent's "Dancehall"

Speaking of Mike Delinquent Project.. I discovered this morning that he actually just released an EP called "Genesis" which includes Dancehall. 4 tracks, all pretty great. Lots of dancehall & bassline touches, but still firmly funky.

one thing that confuses me about this genre is the sound quality issue ... on a dancefloor producers/djs have always been hyper-concerned with the beats having a really big impact & based on mp3s ive heard some of this stuff is probably coming thru speakers in a pretty thin way ... are the big DJs seriously working off the same mp3s we're hearing? or do they have exclusive flac versions or something??

320s most likely. cant see them asking each other for flacs somehow.

who made that take it back to the 80s tune? so fucking large.

I think it was NB Funky, titchy.

now that tune IS funky

Hey I'm not a Doubting Thomas - I think I've already admitted I haven't been paying that much attention. Still, the sun coming out has changed that and yeah Can You Kiss Me There is massive, easily as good as any vocal anthem from 08 or 09.

can you kiss me there is ok. its naggingly, in the most literal housewifey sense of the word, memorable. i dont really hear it as being that much better than a million other funky vocal tunes, though its one of the better ones, sure. i feel is a 100 times better. i should stop going on about that seeing as its not really new, but djs seem to be playing it more now for some reason.

i need it, i feel, house girls, take it back, might be my favourite funky tracks of the moment (at least the ones i can name, theres a dozen others i cant)

I meant "for these dudes and any doubting thomases..." not that you are one Matt.

My top ten 2010 at the mo is:

Devine Collective - House Girls Part 6 (it is 6, right?)
Rudimental - Midnight Affair
Ill Blu - whatever it's called
Funkystepz - Lovers
Devine Collective - People Keep Dancing
Roll Deep - Good Times (Ill Blu Remix)
T2 - Better Off As Friends (Lil Silva Remix)
Craig David - One More Lie (Ill Blu Remix)
Screama & Farah - Kiss Me There/I Can't Lose (these run together in my head)
Naughty Raver - Drama

I think of "I Feel" as last year as well really - I think it's just that DJs other than Supa-D finally got copies this year.

i thought house girls was on part 8 (thats what youve been saying tim!)
ill blues dragon pop is also stupidly good
i wish i could devine stuff on youtube.

sticking with old stuff, differnet lekstrix is still doing it for me, despite being - i think- around when apple had mr bean out!!

oh and that ill blu remix makes up for the sin that is the original roll deep single.
wiley should really be ashamed, jesus.

oh and i love roskas sqwawk too.
ok ill stop posting now.
whenever i look at this thread i find i like more funky than i actually thought i did.
its like im almost surprising myself by still liking funky/house lol (old anti house conditioning is still there clearly).

howevaaaaa. also....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcoyINptA94 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-dX4C3ZnYY&feature=related

i think the 1st one is better.

LOVE the funk butcher/shea soul track tim.

Haha no way is there a producer called Funk Butcher.

feel like the beat on that t-gully one is fighting the vocals

i think funk butcher = alias of swindle

(it's an alias of someone we know already at any rate, can't quite recall who)

this is my fav remix of "rude boy" to date (loose cannons/lady chann) - http://soundcloud.com/govtrecords/rihanna-rude-boy-loose-cannons-hype-rihmx-ft-lady-chann

the straight reggae one w/assassin too, but that's not for this thread really

"kiss me there" is my favourite funky vocal ever i think

I'm still rather partial to the vocal for Lil Silva's "Different":

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Dunno if it's 2010 or 09 though..

Er, sorry, I meant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SPMRtMqmgI

i think funk butcher = alias of swindle

(it's an alias of someone we know already at any rate, can't quite recall who)

Funk Butcher is a massive DJ on the scene (obv that's a relative thing!) and has been since day dot. If anything Swindle would be an alias for Funk Butcher (if you take my meaning) but I don't think they're the same person (though "No More" and "Pull Me Close" do sound rather similar).

Should funky house scepticism be assigned the same level of global importance as, say, climate change denial?

http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/reviews/2008/roska-the-climate-change-ep.jpg

course bruv

haha am i crazy or is dream (of petchy fame) doing some dazed essex spoken word over black coffee's 'superman' not some magically brilliant shit? 67mins, new marcus show

like it's a great song anyway but i'd never have thought it'd be quite right for a funky set - somehow dream's managed to quotidianize its innate deep house sophistication into a daydream by the pier with an ice cream. seems to ring true right at the heart of that bassline/nu-soul sugar axis

all that and marcus still plays a bit of lil silva 'against yaself' over the top and then mixes out into 'house girls 8'. best music ever

This thread is amazing but it's so long and hard to scan through - what was that business about a UK funky night in London aimed at gays that I hope I didn't imagine? Is this still an actual thing? Here in Glasgow I've yet to find a decent club night where I'll hear this stuff with a bit more regularity than the Numbers/LuckyMe axis allows, and I'm currently planning a summer jaunt down south with an "underground homo thug" so this would be icing on the cake.