The Joni Mitchell - Best Album POLL

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I agree -- you get a sense that she's shaped the music to respond to the pull of memories.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Re Turbulent Indigo vs Night Ride Home:

I'm the opposite I guess in that I used to have Turbulent Indigo like 15 years ago but never took to it much - stuff like "Sex Kills" and "Not Too Blame" were too didactic and embittered, too much like Joni in interviews. On Night Ride Home the early stages of the nicotine thickening of her voice gives it this fabulous sense of regret and persistence through sorrow, but with none of that bitterness, it's a really gentle portrayal of middle-aged wisdom. Even "Cherokee Louise", which you'd expect to be kind of browbeating, is so evocative and empathetic. That bit where she sings "... I know where she is..." gives me chills.

Tim F, Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's been years since I've heard "sex Kills" (I owned Misses), but I remember its arrangement as a chillier iteration of the NRH sound; its plain-spoken didacticism is closer to Dog Eat Dog, actually, and is maybe a more successful attempt at capturing that ethos and sound.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

I should probably track the album down again, it's over ten years since I last heard it.

Tim F, Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bits of the 80s inhere: there's some subtle tribal (or quasi-tribal) percussion on some tracks ("Slouching Towards Bethlehem"; "Nothing Can Be Done"), like a really quiet adult-contemporary version of The Commodores' "Night Shift" or Fleetwood Mac's "Caroline"

Really feel like starting a thread about this sorta stuff...

Tim F, Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Add: George Michael's "One More Try"

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Passion Play" is one of my favourite songs ever right now. SO GOOD. Could anyone else right this kind of song?

Tim F, Monday, 24 May 2010 10:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

ugh write.

Tim F, Monday, 24 May 2010 10:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Thanks to steep discounts on Record Store Day, I got a promo mint condition copy of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter yesterday. I've accepted the received wisdom that this thing is an outlier in Mitchell's oeuvre but a few tracks sound like Hejira outtakes only this time Pastorious is mixed too high or his playing is too busy.

I'd love some commentary as I absorb this thing.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 April 2012 22:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Cotton Avenue and Paprika Plains are all time, really. It's interesting, but not a failing that the bass is the second most prominent instrument after Joni's voice, there are also sections where ether are two basslines.

Dick Move's Wardrobe (MaresNest), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

a promo mint condition copy of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter

For some reason this makes me smile. Isn't DJRD one of the most available second-hand records out there? Not disparaging the purchase, just amused, i.e. "I found a promo mint copy of The Final Cut"

poxen, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

agreed with poxen, those things are all over the place! Still nice to find an unplayed copy though.

skip, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Its immaculate condition – I doubt it'd been played once – is telling.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

"Paprika Plains" has revealed its secrets to me.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 February 2013 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

SPOILER ALERT

dry rub come save beef (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 9 February 2013 13:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

after another long session with night ride home i decided to listen to her '80s records for the first time. wild things run fast feels slight but could also grow deeper the more i listen to it. dog eat dog, though! this is great! i love all of these synth textures

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 29 August 2014 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I suppose I should finally listen to Dog Eat Dog

Tim F, Saturday, 30 August 2014 06:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I bought DED on cassette for $3 at a Best Buy in the summer of '98. "Fiction" is my favorite of the didactic songs, and the single "Good Friends" folds the Thomas Dolby filigrees into a fraught, shimmering minor classic. "Impossible Dreamer" isn't bad. The rest is failed experimentation. You can also hear her voice beginning to change.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 August 2014 11:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

how do you feel about chalk mark in a rain storm alfred? was going to listen to that one today

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

too many guests, not enough songs.

NRH is where she realizes that sound.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

listening to it now i can definitely see that. still enjoying the explicitly '80s touches. dog eat dog in retrospect is a pretty big outlier in her catalogue

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 August 2014 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

"lakota" is both embarrassing and gorgeous

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 August 2014 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha "dancin' clown"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 August 2014 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Night Ride Home is so good it's not possible. I feel like i'll even need to listen to Shine at some point on the off chance it's an unrecognised minor classic.

Tim F, Saturday, 30 August 2014 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah night ride home kills me. been listening to it around 1 am every night for the past week and it goes so many places without moving very much at all

meanwhile clear standout of chalk mark is "the beat of black wings" which is fucking unbelievable

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 August 2014 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

also janet jackson's favourite song

Tim F, Saturday, 30 August 2014 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like the Peter Gabriel duet.

My friend Inskeep wrote this for Stylus years ago:

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/on_second_thought/joni-mitchell-chalk-mark-in-a-rain-storm.htm

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 August 2014 00:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Interesting take but he makes it sound as if Joni went straight from folkie to overproduced aging boomer

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 31 August 2014 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

her politics are pretty simpleminded on those late records; she's casting aspersions all over the place. it's tiresome, even when the music is occasionally seductive. although it's pretty obvious her melodic facility nearly dried up some time around 1979.

wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 8 May 2016 12:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

Thanks to Tim F and John D's efforts, I've come round to the entirety of Night Ride Home, one of my favorite autumnal releases.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 May 2016 13:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Night Ride Home is a wonderful record.

farmboy, Sunday, 8 May 2016 18:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

So the whole time I've been in New York I've had "Song For Sharon" in my head on and off (though haven't actually listened to it). Only Joni could so deeply and indelibly imprint herself in my brain that I can be standing on a subway platform and suddenly think, "A woman I knew just drowned herself / the well was deep and muddy / she was just shaking off futility / or punishing somebody / my friends were calling up all day yesterday / all emotions and abstraction / it seems we all live so close to that line, and / so far from satisfaction..."

Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2016 04:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

i had "free man in paris" in my head all day today

Mordy, Thursday, 16 June 2016 04:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

although it's pretty obvious her melodic facility nearly dried up some time around 1979.

given that some of the best melodies she ever wrote are on night ride home, lol

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 16 June 2016 08:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

"come in from the cold" is so good

brimstead, Thursday, 16 June 2016 19:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

One of her best ever.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

whole album is fantastic except for "Ray's Dad's Cadillac"

because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

I've always found the lyrics to "The Windfall" a bit off-putting.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

I don't know the details of the lawsuit, and that might help me enjoy the song

because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

nahhhh "ray's dad's cadillac" is great too! love the brassy chord stabs that respond to the refrain.

brimstead, Friday, 17 June 2016 00:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

I do like the overall vibe of the verses. I just hate the refrain so much. Focusing on the brass does help, though, so I appreciate the tip.

because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 June 2016 00:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

"stokin' the star makin' machinery behind the popular song" is just a beautiful turn of phrase

calstars, Friday, 17 June 2016 03:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

Seeing the love that "Come in From the Cold" is getting here is heartwarming.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 17 June 2016 03:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

I don't know if there are even that many songs about looking back on yr life from the vantage point of middle age anyway, but I can't think of one better, or with such a sense of sweep to it.

Tim F, Friday, 17 June 2016 05:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

I love how the synthesizer responsible for the billowing sound effects is called the Billotron.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 June 2016 10:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

For the Roses holy hell

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Saturday, 9 July 2016 03:38 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

jason mantzoukas is not really my thing. But he recently revelealed that he listened to Hejira every night for 10 years or something, and it's enough to make me feel something for the guy.

Salsa Golf (Argentinean Ketchup) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 July 2016 04:48 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Eh revealed obv

Salsa Golf (Argentinean Ketchup) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 July 2016 04:48 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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