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veselka's pretty good, and i've always had decent service there. lotta variety on the menu, but their ukranian food doesn't suffer for it.

2 columbus circle in 1964 (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Peter Luger serves somes tasty prime rib, my brethren.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

The waitress I had when I went to Veselka with geeta and Alex in SF was not the greatest, but I still like it.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

last time i was there (a month ago), the waiter got all the orders right and the food came quickly. works for me!

yvette yreka (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

you know what's really really good at veselka? Chicken salad. That's my 5 am dinner, Chicken salad on toasted challah, with a side of potato salad. And a lentil soup. It's the thick kind, not the kind that's just broth with some lentils floating in it, more like lentil chilly.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

their challah is perfect. it has the consistency of a very dense cake.

yvette yreka (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

their salads are unusually good too -- fresh veggies, nice tangy citrusy house dressing.

yvette yreka (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

this is slightly off-topic but if anyone can recommend a good bar near Penn station, that'd be swell.

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

there's a bar IN penn station, but it's just a crappy sports bar.

yvette yreka (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

the penn station area is a cultural dead zone (except for the korean restaurants). you have to walk down to about 25th street to start finding anything cool.

yvette yreka (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ok thanks, maybe i'll scope out a house of soju. fingers crossed.

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

there's stuff not far away in the 40s tho. hells kitchen sure ain't a dead zone.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll be waiting for a friend to get off the train around 6pm and then we'll have under an hour for a drink before we head downtown and i had a fantasy of the perfect, slightly seedy/sleepy nyc bar that probably exists in hell's kitchen, yeah.

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 12 January 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

well there's always my former place of employment on 40th street just off 9th avenue across from port authority. look for the red light. don't tell 'em i sent ya.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 12 January 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

you mean they might serve us the wrong kind of "shot", eh? ok! thanks

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 12 January 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Taza de Oro for awesome cheap Puerto Rican food. I forget where it is but I remember walking there from Chelsea

9th ave between 14th & 15th. Haven't been in years but I'd bet it's still good. roast chicken w/garlic sauce. yellow rice/red beans.

there's stuff not far away in the 40s tho.

LOTS of new cheap joints walk up 9th twds 57th, follow your nose

m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 13 January 2006 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i think maybe i dont really 'get' veselka

terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 13 January 2006 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i love veselka. service is usually either brusque and efficient or brusque and harried, but the soups, salads, and most of the ukrainian food are all great (except for the pierogies, meh). it's not super cheap, though - usually ends up about $15/pp with tip and stuff. for really low prices, you need christine's or little poland or the one by the mcdonald's on 1st ave.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 13 January 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link

La taza de Oro is on 8thAve bet 14/15, it's been awhile.

In the 80s I was partial to Veselka's mean green vegetable soup and AM buckwheat pancakes. After five hand-to-mouth years in the EV though I lost my taste for kielbasa and sauerkrauet 4 ever. :-0

m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 13 January 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Las Ramblas 170 west 4th. Authentic Spanish tapas bar. First importers on select Spanish wines.

Mmmm Good, Friday, 13 January 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

You're not alone, terry lennox. I think it's a product of location and hours.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 January 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, don't forget: liberal people being "open" to fairly unappetizing food. Very cultured, don't you know!

The Dickster, Friday, 13 January 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

whereas "conservative people" are known for their culinary distinction

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 January 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

what's unappetizing about soup and big salads and deli sandwiches and stuffed cabbage and mac/cheese and potato pancakes?

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 13 January 2006 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i lived in the deli's when i was over in nyc, but then again i am an uncultured cretin when it comes to food.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 13 January 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

and no one who goes to Veselka is actually of Eastern European extraction

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 January 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Conservative people eat steak and chicken made the American way.

The Dickster, Friday, 13 January 2006 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Conservative people in NYC eat foods just as fancy and pretentious, if not more so, then liberal people. Whenever my family goes to hot spots, we always get the 6:30 reservation, because everything else is booked and like, my mom has to get back to jersey you know? And the resteraunts are ALWAYS filled with total upper-middle class reagan republican gold-jewelry wearing sopranos watching types. You should've seen the Lexus SUV-driving, dangling rolex, slicked-back hair not even close to being of the cultural elite types sitting next to us at Chubo last week.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe you're eating at the wrong restaurants?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, well let's pretend I'm 100% serious, then. That's a whole different kind of "conservative" (the "snob" variant as opposed to the "simple" strain). Veselka would be beneath them!

The Dickster, Friday, 13 January 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Christine's is the shit

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Friends took me to a crazy Chinese place a few weeks ago, I think on Mott St? Called Wo Hop, if the vodka hasn't clouded my memory too badly. Food came practically immediately and was crazy good, but I was told not to visit the restaurant of the same name UPSTAIRS, you have to go the the BASEMENT. And it's either 24-hrs or at least very late-night.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

yup, that's wo hop.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

yup, that's wo hop. 24 hours of deliciousness. ny noodletown is awesome, too, but i don't think they're open all night anymore (plus it's smaller).

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone else been really let down by The Voice's picks (at least the non-Sietsema ones) lately?

I've been shocked at how bad a couple picks have been, and also some of the stuff they bother to review doesn't even SOUND very good.

Most recently I had a downright awful and overpriced meal at the Greek restaurant Delphi. The four of us literally left the restaurant frowning and clutching our stomachs.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just tried the Pink Pony last night and it was surprisingly good.

My steak au poivre had one of the most delicious sauces I've ever tasted and great potatoes as well, and my gf's West African chicken was very good as well. Liked the atmosphere -- definitely hipster/bohemian style but very aesthetically nice. Prices were not cheap but reasonable for what we got. Very good espresso. Liked whatever brand of Cotes Du Rhone they were pouring. Service was a little unattentive but that was kind of what I expected from the look of the place, and it was the kind of place where I wanted to relax/hang out anyway. Definitely will be going back.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I ate at Maremma tonight. Here is what I posted on Digital City (don't worry, Mom paid -- I don't actually consider a $47 dinner a bargain for myself.):

A $47 "tasting menu" that includes a sampling of antipasti, pasta, two main dishes and two deserts might sound like a bargain if it were genuinely a consumate chef's "tour of Tuscany," as the menu claimed. But instead I felt I was getting a tour of the weak spots on the menu that weren't selling well that week. The "artisinal beans" (!) were unconvincing, as were the elaborate descriptions of them given by the waitress (Sorry, they just tasted like beans. Perfectly good beans, but beans). The warm salad with pancetta and scrambled egg was, as a friend acutely observed, essentially eggs and bacon with greens. Again, perfectly fine, but unremarkable. One of the pastas (the "Moonshine") was farily good and the other was bland. The bass was not especially fresh and uninspiringly seasoned. And the flank steak was also perfectly fine but nothing special. What was unclear was why all this also needed to be accompanied by a basket of extremely oily french fries, especially since both entrees already came with potatoes. Then again, the fries may have been for another table, as were, undoubtedly, the three extra deserts brought to our table (one of which tasted like toothpaste.) Aside from these mistakes (about which one can't really complain) the service itself was quite good and very friendly, and I enjoyed the atmosphere, particularly the beautiful skylights.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 8 April 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm now smacking my head for spelling "artisanal" wrong -- but maybe it just looks like the quotes and exclamation point are there to signify that it was the restaurant's misspelling.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 8 April 2006 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link

"Saigon" - the upper west side's vietnamese heaven.been there for at least 50 times.

more to be, Saturday, 8 April 2006 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i tried out Le Miu, the new japanese place on ave A - opened by ex-nobu guys and holy shit it was amazing. not as pricy as nobu/megu/etc, but definitely more expensive than avenue a sushi - thank god i wasnt paying. had:

1) 3 kumamoto oysters w/ ponzu jelly
2) jalapeno yellowtail sashimi (ex-nobu guy, afterall)
3) sea urchin w/ soy gel
4) miso black cod wrapped in phyllo dough (ditto)
5) sushi/sashimi plate w: the best bluefin otoro ive ever had, uni, botan ebi, horse mackerel, salmon 'toro', yellowtail.
6) meille feiulle

i think it might be the best japanese meal i've had in new york. it came to about $130 for food for 2 people.

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

One of my company's clients was Terrance Brennan's Artisanal Cheese Center, so I've had to spell out that word many a time. Here's a simple and fun mnemonic: "art is anal."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 8 April 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Highly recommended: Pam Real Thai on w. 49th st. btw 9th and 10th.

Friend who spent some Thailand said it was one of the more authentic places he's tried in NYC. Most entrees in the $8-12 range. Extensive menu. Excellent quality. Beers are $3. Atmosphere is pleasant enough - casual, big picture windows. Last night we had two soups, a chicken Krapao Sub (thai holy basil sautee) and a quarter fried king fish in Tamarind sauce, a beer and a glass of wine for $36 before tip.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 21 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

le miu wasn't as good the 2nd time around.... i must have been drunk

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It could have gone down in quality too - happens all the time.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

are you doing any restaurant week places? i'm going to morimoto for lunch on monday, and dinner at the barroom @ the modern on tuesday. i think its all im going to do, since i missed reservations at Gramercy, Eleven Madison Park, and Cafe Boulud, the three places i wanted to go to.

but fleur de sel, perry street, and jean georges do year round lunch prix-fixe deals all for $25/$28 each, so i'll save those for later

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG, I just had the worst meal I've ever had in NYC at the Carnegie Deli. I know it's a tourist trap -- it's not really worth explaining how we ended up eating there -- but still, I wasn't expecting anything this awful.

Here's my review from a restaurant site:

Tourist trap is an understatement - rat trap is more like it. The grossly overpriced and oversized "Turkey Reuben" came on white bread, smothered in low-quality cheese with barely an onion in sight. I don't believe a chicken ever dipped its toe into the matzah ball soup, and the knish was downright foul - literally bursting with inedible, gristly meat - prompting us to rename the establishment "The Carnage-y Deli." I left not only nauseous, but ashamed that anyone would associate this restaurant with my Jewish heritage. Avoid at all costs.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't especially enjoy lunch at fleur de sel a few years back, but i've often been unimpressed by lunch at such places, and i had a sort of painful eating companion

i really want to go to eleven madison now that this new guy is there

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

prompting us to rename the establishment "The Carnage-y Deli."

that's in, er, good taste given the murders that happened above it a few years ago.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Ouch. Strike that.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i want to go to the modern too, but i get the feeling you're paying for real estate there, no offense to gabriel kreuther, and once you strip away the bar crowds, it may be a bit of a super-haute cafeteria

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link


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