The one issue I'm having with this album is that the lyrics are so bleak. Like I've been turning on Gaslight Anthem a bunch because it sounds amazing and has a really warm feeling and the lyrics are vague enough to tune out when my attention is elsewhere. This Against Me! album tho is brutal. "Narrow visions of autonomy / You want me to surrender my identity," turning into this old man looking back on his more rebellious days when he was still full of life. Or "because of the shame I associate with vulnerability / i am numbing myself completely," which turns in the end into a death (the mother burying her kid), or the super depressing "We're Breaking Up" track where he's looking around his broken relationship and wondering what to do with their shared bands and shared friends. So generally I'd rather listen to something not so completely depressing - it's not half as good as something like Blue, but it's about as relentless.
― Mordy, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
Well to me it's a lot about how this former teenage anarchist is dealing with being 30 (or nearly 30), realizing he can't be that kid anymore. But yeah, a lot of it's bleak shit. Is that so bad, though?
― rennavate, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
No, I mean, it can be great. I think the new album is really powerful. But I don't always want to be in that headspace, and it transmits affect really effectively.
― Mordy, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Terrific album.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
yes
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
Why do me and J0rdan like the same rock albums all the time? Is there some reason that Against Me! and Titus Andronicus appeal to AUTOGOONS in particular?
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
J0rdan, do you like Torche too?
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
Are we talking about White Crosses or New Wave? Not that it really matters. They're both excellent.
The new one doesn't have anything as epic as Thrash Unreal, but it's probably more consistent overall. The only problem with New Wave for me was side 2 was not nearly as good.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
I had NO idea the Against Wave cult reviles White Crosses (check out the Amazon reviews). How is it so bloody different -- except they've gotten better at what they do?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
Against Me's fans turn on them with every album iirc
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
ha, i was gonna say, i thought they turned on them after "new wave"
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah whiney idk why we both dig the same rock albums -- add my chem & 21st cent breakdown to the list
Titus Andronicus & Torche are heavier than shit like Broken Social Scene w/o being as heavy as something like, I don't know, Mastodon (to pick an example of popular metal stuff)
― ksh, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm gonna make a thread about it so we don't clog up this one
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
that torche is really sweet, for some reason i always thought they were some baroness type metal
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
whiney there's already a thread about this sort of rock album -- mordy started it
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
maybe this isn't exactly what you were thinking tho
Post-Boss American Shades of Working Class Rock Music Thread
focuses more on gaslight anthem i guess, no idea if you like them
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=81488#unread
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
Oddly enough, or maybe not, but the last two Against Me! albums are my favourite of theirs. This probably says alot about my tastes.
― rennavate, Monday, 12 July 2010 04:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
ohhh man, as a huge early AM! fan I am listening to this right now. I didn't care for their last couple but the first song on this gave me goosebumps.
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 13:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
'white crosses' is such an anthem, I can't get past it every time I put the album on
love the way he says "home-to-you" and "av-uh-nue"
really wanna go to an AM! show and jam to this
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 11:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
― rennavate, Friday, May 21, 2010 3:17 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark
cursory feeling is not only can he not be that kid anymroe, but he realizes how... windmill-tilting it all was? "politics were too convenient" - he's wiser, has perspective from which to evaluate and condemn his past actions, but is still waiting for some new ideology to replace it - "looking for context and perspective, looking for some kind of distraction" - and his old impulses keep returning to fill the void...
Mordy OTM about how bleak lyrically this album is, probably because I feel like I am at a similar place in life these guys are
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
"with my name tattoo'd into your skin" and later, the reverse-shot: "with your name tattoo'd into my skin"
despite the sentiments proffered, love how vulnerable the song makes tom seem.
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
thing is, I don't think he's quite closed off that chapter of that life yet. he doesn't have as much distance from that period as he would like himself or you to believe. "I've got no judgment for you/come on an ache with me." he's exhausted his veins, but he's still open - if someone were to come along and revitalize his prior leanings, I don't doubt he'd join in.
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
This record is an absolute monster. Now my favorite is Spanish Moss.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 July 2010 02:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
HIGH PRESSURE LOW
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
There's just no future left for us to dream ofLiving in an era of instabilitySo caught up in the culture of their rivalsFear breeds in honest menIt's a high pressure lowIt's a high pressure low
like, this is the fucking shit here
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
as a chorus
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
My favorite part of that song:
Would anyone forgive Robert McNamara?In retrospect he had to admit;There was mistake in going to war without first asking all the questions.Yes, Robert Strange McNamara,
Yes, Robert Strange McNamara
― Mordy, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 06:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
want to get up and dance & sing along to this even though I'm at work
― dayo, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 06:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's probably my favorite record of the year so far. Right now my favorite is Spanish Moss. Hard to believe this record doesn't have its own thread, but it's too late now.
To me, this band is so much better now than they were starting out.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
What god doesn't give to you, you've gotta go get for yourself
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 14:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
still one of the best
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yessir.
― sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
no fuckin joke
― zorn_bond.mp3, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
Were supposed to be doing a UK tour next month until it was cancelled with no explanation. Hope all is well with them.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 29 October 2010 06:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
Best record of 2010. It's kind of lame that it doesn't have its own thread.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 29 October 2010 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
I just saw the video for "Teenage Anarchist" thought it was excellent. Lyrically better than anything in its class that I've heard.
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 16 December 2010 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
"You're getting messed up with the wrong guys/You're getting messed up on the wrong drugs/Sometimes your body takes you places/That you didn't really plan on goin" has always struck me as a very Craig Finn-y line. The whole song in its way has that classic rock feel to it, but that line sounds like it coulda come right off Separation Sunday.
― new rap guy (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
also the high note on "they don't know nothin about redemption" always makes me lose my shit
― new rap guy (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
hoos did you ever get into early AM!
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like Eternal Cowboy a lot but Axl Rose still hasn't really grabbed me yet
― new rap guy (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
also i think i want to send the lyrics to "piss and vinegar" to everyone on the occupydc discussion list
― new rap guy (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
man hoos I feel like I don't know you anymore
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is actually my favorite against me! record
maybe i am wrong to interpret "borne on the fm waves of the heart" as a song about social anxiety disorder but it is sincerely the best song about that, if it is
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, November 7, 2011 5:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol how u mean
― new rap guy (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, November 7, 2011 5:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
yah i've always heard it as kinda "summer lovin" + s.a.d.
hah as an early AM! fan I always felt that the band peaked with axl rose - when eternal cowboy first came out man you would not believe the backlash
it's only with white crosses that they've been winning me back
so to hear you rep for everything except the classic!
*moshes by myself*
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
yah nah i mean
i kinda came up on nasally anarcho-folk like david rovics and the people who turned into riot folk so i kinda got my fill of the folk-beat kinda thing, even if it was plugged in? idk
― new rap guy (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait nevermind, i misremembered -- she talks in the piece about performing onstage as a woman, but i guess there are no solid plans
it does say that she plans on being on hormones by the time they go on tour at the end of may
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
The pitchfork post on the story includes a live YouTube vid of Gable solo (with long hair!) doing a new track called "Gender Dysphoria Blues." would link, but I'm on my phone.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 11 May 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Halford came out well past their commercial peak.
Halford came out repeatedly AFAIK, the first I ever heard of Judas Priest was in a "heavy metal primer" in Smash Hits, which casually mentioned he was the only out gay in metal
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 22:54 (10 months ago) Permalink
awesome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
aw
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://youtu.be/35xd5OzEqro
Performing 'The Ocean' live in Colorado. The sheer look of joy on Laura's face around 1:10 when she hits the second verse is so incredible.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:24 (10 months ago) Permalink
(And the cheers from the crowd at those lines.
Better recording:
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:27 (10 months ago) Permalink
i was totes going to buy tickets to this. i'm glad i waited:
Against Me!BAD RELIGION TOUR CANCELLATIONUnfortunately we have to cancel all of our appearances scheduled for the upcoming tour with Bad Religion and Polar Bear Club.Canceling a tour is definitely not a decision we would make lightly. At this moment, due to our current uncertainty over who is going to be playing drums with us, we feel like we are lacking the ability to put on the show our fans deserve and we think that the best thing for us to do right now is take some time to regroup and finish a record.Our most sincere apologies to Bad Religion, Polar Club and all of the agents and promoters involved with the tour but most importantly to the fans who were coming out to see us.If anyone who bought tickets doesn't want to go to the show now or walks away from the show feeling disappointed we'll definitely do our best to accommodate some spots on our guest list next time we pass through your town, which hopefully won't be too long from now. Sincere apologies. - Against Me!
― Mordy, Monday, 4 March 2013 20:21 (2 months ago) Permalink