i have not been to a dentist in probably 10 years

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can anyone recommend a dr in ny in the cigna network? i gotta go through my hmo...

bell_labs, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno i'm about to be on Empire in NY... meeting with the Benefits woman today.

Dr. Michael Herman is really great, 128 Central Park South I think. not sure if he's on cigna but maybe worth cheking

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

whoa Guardian is like really good, my new dental plan

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't nkow why i said Empire before, what the hell is that

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

bell labs, ask these people:

http://www.docnet.org/physicians/phys_bios.asp?phys_id=1635

they are pretty pricey as far as dentists go, but they are GREAT. I TRUST them. I broke a tooth after not going to the dentist for 5 years. Went to some mcdentist who said I'd need a root canal when the dr was in next week and untill then there was nothing they could do and that I should just avoid eating with that tooth. BREATHING hurt. I went to the linked dentist the next day, nice little office in brooklyn heights. She said I might not need a root canal, I didn't get one, got a crown instead, and she put some temp ceramics on it to cover up the exposed parts prior to the crown.

And as i've said many many times. The tooth breaking SUCKED. It hurst and cost LOTS of money. Get cleanings and check-ups every 6 months people and don't let that happen.

And that dentists other device was to get a Phillips Sonicaire Toothbrush. I did and it was great. I stopped using it after a while and hadn't been there for 3 years. Went back and recently, had major cleaning and now am using the Philips again. It's expensive, but it's worth it. It's like getting your teeth cleaned every day. It's not one of those 20 buck ones that just spin around.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

who's your dentist in brooklyn heights?

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

see the link.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i'll try them - lauren told me about a dentist who sounds great, but they don't take my insurance, and i'm afraid i will need stuff done.

bell_labs, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't recommend her enough. You can go cheaper, hell, there's about a dozen dentists in queens right outside of the 7 train that offer real bargains AND free electric toothbrushes, but dental care isn't something I'm looking to get a bargain in. And if you have good coverage...when I had all that work done (the crown, etc) I had Met Life and it covered most of it.

I now have some shitty plan care of Freelancer's Union, and have yet to see how that'll pan out.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

and I got it on the NHS

how do you do that? last time i needed any dental work done (all wisdom teeth out, 2000 - eek, 7 years...), i filled in all the forms and sent off all the proof cos i was so sure i would qualify - i was making like £200 a week gross (so, what, £168 net?) and living in london - i remember reading in the metro about average wages and discovering i was below the poverty line - and they told me i did not qualify for any help whatsoever.

emsk, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

We managed to register with an NHS dentist. We still have to pay charges, but my check-up and the subsequent treatment I had today are charged at NHS rate which is less than 50 quid for everything. I think if you have below a certain income you have to pay less, maybe right down to nothing. But the standard NHS charges aren't means tested and they're still a lot lower than private charges.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ok thanks. i am so confused! i didn't go private, i specifically asked about nhs dentists... ohwell. maybe next time.

emsk, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The charges might've been a lot different in the past tho. The poster on the NHS site here says "since April 2006".

Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm so squeamish about bodies, teeth & especially gums that I didn't go for twelve years, and when I did I had to have nine fillings and three pure-black wisdom teeth chopped out of my gob. It was a good job I was on the dole at the time - it all came free and I got some sedation for the squeams thrown in.

That was three years ago, though, and recently, while eating a fucking ciabatta that I didn't even want, one of those big fillings came out, or a quarter of a tooth did -- I swallowed it and I'm no expert anyway -- and I have to begin again I reckon, this time paying, I suppose.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

All four of my wisdom teeth have impacted...it wld cost $1200 to get them removed. I am kind of nervous abt spending this; I can fit it in my budget but it will hurt my 'oh shit my dog ate a tractor' emergency savings. Will my mouth be like 'eh, don't worry bout taking out those 4 weird choppers, we've grpwn used to them," or will it be like, "When will you please fucking mutiny these supposedly wise teeth, we are getting twisted into uselessness." ???

Abbott, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

impacted meaning 'grown out,' I am 98% sure I am using it correctly but wanted to clarify in case I hadn't

Abbott, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I've got decent medical insurance, but the dental plan kinda blows. I always feel like I've been gipped every time I get a standard cleaning, so I end up going maybe once every couple of years. I'm a 2/3 times a day brusher and fairly regular floss-a. I'm probably tempting fate, but goddam I really hate going to the dentist.

will, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i haven't been to the dentist since i was 15, and i only have one filling. i'm thinking i should get a check-up before i leave the country but i'm too scared about what might be secretly wrong with my teeth.

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Do it before you have to pay for it w/insurance! You will seriously, seriously not regret it and it's probably nowhere near as bad as you think (went to the dentist for the first time in seven years to find "look ma, no cavities!").

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Oops, I mean before you move to U.S., the country where you will get no decent insurance, if any at all.

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think impacted means anything until they start getting cavities or somehow going wrong on you? I think the reason dentists take out most people's wisdom teeth is that a) sometimes they're pressuring other teeth, b) they're harder to reach behind and tend to get cavities, and c) dentistry is a business. But if you have nice hard resistant enamel to begin with, maybe you'll NEVER get cavities in them! Just brush, mouth wash, whatever, be good to yr teefs.

If, sometime in yr adult life with a job & insurance, they show signs of problems and have to come out while your body still heals pretty well/quickly, then fine. I suppose one wouldn't want to be like sixty-something and then have to have major oral surgery with older-person healing times. But that's a long ways off.

Laurel, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

That seems sensible & accurate. It's what I suspected, that it wasn't a danger will robinson thing & could be tended to when I have a Real Job.

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm kinda scared my wisdoms are finally coming through. i'm getting a really aching jaw, but i always getting an acutely tense jaw when i'm stressed, so i'm not sure if it's just that. and i've been clenching my teeth practically non-stop lately.

dentists really scare the shit out of me :/

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I have to have a tooth removed, she put two injections in me last night and one was in the roof of my mouth - absolute fucking agony.

Ugh I had this happen when I had my wisdoms out. I'm not that afraid of needles, but when even your dentist says "I'm sorry but this is really going to hurt" you know its gonna be bad. Holy crap.

Trayce, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

this is really enabling my capacity for procrastination when it comes to health check-ups

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you ever had a tooth rot from the inside, the nerve shriveling up and dying while still encased in yr tooth, from raging infection? If you have, it looks much, much less tempting to putt off dentist visits. Any root canal, in fact, any TWO OR MORE root canals, are worth avoiding nerve death.

I actually fell ASLEEP during my last root canal, and I've been deathly afraid of needles for about twenty years. I promise you it can be done.

Laurel, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Please spare yourself and go in. You don't want to have a slight twinge on a Friday afternoon that you shrug off, but which by the midnight hours of Saturday has turned into a monster that rules your head until the inflammation swells your eye(s) shut and makes your face feel on fire, so that you can stagger around Brooklyn looking for a hospital at sunrise because there is no fucking way you can stay in the house any longer.

It was my pre-bike days and I had no internet at home, and no money for a car service or similar, not that I was even thinking that clearly, and I left the house without really knowing where the nearest hospital WAS, and had to ask a policeman for directions and walk and walk. Then I was in the ER for four or five hours begging for antibiotics before anyone would even see me. I apologize for the drama, but srsly really please don't do this. Go to the dentist.

Laurel, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Not you, Abbs -- but people who HAVE insurance and avoid the dr because it's scary and there are needles and sometimes mildly bad news involved. Because even once I HAD a Real Job I still tried to avoid the dentist but it ends badly, it always ends badly.

Laurel, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't have insurance (practically no one does in NZ). so i'm looking at pretty hefty financial damages if i need any work done. i think that's scaring me more than the needles and pain.

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link

also: thanks laurel. i know you're right and i need to suck it up and just make an appointment.

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

You will seriously be very fucking grateful and if you have it done (say if you have to have wisdom teeth pulled or root canals) maybe up to $35, at least $250 just for a cleaning & x-ray. Do it there, plz, you will be so glad. ONe, two days of your least favorite for overwhelming security & relief...half the reason I was afraid to go is I was afraid things wld be beyond help. But I was pleasantly surprised they weren't!

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

oops I meant $3k not $35...maybe with the exchange rates it wld be cheaper here. Also, maybe there's a discount clinic in yr area?

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i think it's maybe cheaper here. my best friend is getting her wisdoms pulled this week, and it's costing $2000 (NZD), but half of that is the cost of a general anaesthetic, because hers have to be cut out from deep in her gums.

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link


In dental terminology an "impacted" tooth refers to a tooth that has failed to emerge fully into its expected position. This failure to erupt properly might occur because there is not enough room in the person's jaw to accommodate the tooth, or because the angulation of the tooth is improper.

So Abbott, your teeth are the opposite of impacted.

mh, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link

exchange rates would fuck me - NZ$1 buys US$0.72

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw thx mh! I knew something was wrong there. What is the proper word?

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Erupted, I think.

mh, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

that is it. hhoray!

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

i just made a dentist appointment after 4 years of putting it off.

bell_labs, Thursday, 24 April 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i am so afraid.

bell_labs, Thursday, 24 April 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

It'll probably be fine, I didn't go for a decade, and I only had to have one filling replaced. Though, it that falls out, I have to get a crown which is ££££!

jel --, Thursday, 24 April 2008 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder how hstencil's teeth are

omar little, Thursday, 24 April 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

i still haven't been (since the "scary things yr hairdresser sed" thread) and mine are "fine"

mark s, Thursday, 24 April 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't go for four years between appointments. between filling five cavities and a cleaning, i've had to go six times since january

impudent harlot, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

so, yknow, there's that

impudent harlot, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't go for ten years and when i finally did go it was not all that bad. but i have "good teeth" whatever that means. ALSO: the first dentist i went to wanted to put me under to clean my teeth, so i found another dentist who didn't want to do that kind of dumb shit

Mr. Que, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

can you tell when you have cavities? do they hurt? i've never had a cavity or root canal or any of that stuff but i'm convinced i'll have 12 of them this time.

bell_labs, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

if youve never had a cavity, and you cant feel anything now that definitely feels like a cavity (extreme sensitivity to cold, air, food, etc), and its only been four years, i bet you will have a maximum of two cavities, and probably none.

something cool about having small teeth is that its easy to floss them!

69, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

i definitely have a chipped toof but it doesn't hurt.

bell_labs, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

my teeth are sort of horrible anyway (impacted wisdom teeth due to small jaw, sensitivity), but i've been taking much better care of them this year

impudent harlot, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link


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