THE 100-YEAR-OLDS OCCUPATION: Giants 2008 goddamn thread

over the last 3 seasons they have averaged 74 wins.

this team is far worst than any of those teams.

I say 100 losses.

I hear you guys on the 2 good young pitchers, but with diminished, old, injure prone vets playing behind them... matt cain is destined to have a worse record than he did in 2007 (7 wins + 16 losses).

http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/024741.php

Giants predicted to have worst offense in MLB:

"We continue to look at team offenses for 2008 with the San Francisco Giants.
Aaron Rowand

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In 2007, the Giants scored 4.22 runs per game.

I plugged in a likely lineup to the Lineup Analysis Tool, using the Marcel the Monkey predictions from Tom Tango. The numbers for pitchers are based on the team averages from 2007. The lineups rate as follows:

* Best: 4.23 runs per game
* Given: 3.99 runs per game
* Worst: 3.71 runs per game

This going to be a very sad year for the Giants offense. Even with Bonds in 2007 they posted the second lowest runs per game in the majors. Not one person in the starting lineup is projected to obtain an OPS of .800. No one looks to get on over 35% of the time, and only one player is projected to slug over .450.

It's really sad to see once good offensive players like Omar Vizquel and Ray Durham fall apart like this. The Giants really need to blow up this lineup and start over."

I have truly, honestly been reading this thread thinking "b-b-but the Giants won the Superbowl!"

Get that optimism out of here.

And so it begins:

Vizquel out 4-6 weeks.

Arguably a better team without him in the lineup.

Good thing Sabean spent $5.3M on resigning him...

"Barry Zito's spring got off to a forgettable start Saturday, as the lefty recorded only two outs while giving up eight runs in the Giants' 23-5 loss to the A's."

omg

dying

This makes me happy.

http://msunderestimated.com/BarryZito.jpg

Bring on the Denker.

OK, this is piling on, but still...

1 0 4 4 9 0

Lowry's pitching line or the numbers on the hatch on Lost?

Supposedly there are tons of scouts at the game to check out Lowry as tradebait for a legitimate 3B....

LOLWRY

whoops

OWRLY?

^^^^^quality anagram

Zito's spring:

0 wins 3 losses
17.18 ERA
0 strikeouts
6 walks

I guess he's taken being the 4th-best starter on the Giants to heart.

omg! He dated hilary duff?! craddle roberrr!

He isn`t much of a craddle robber... I thought he was like 40 lol.. but he is only 29, and Hilary is 20.. thats not too bad.

Girls can be so mean.

Deriving dating PECOTA from exhibition stats, that is. Meow!

The Padres' B-team is whoopin' up on Timmy the Kid today.

I've grown tired of being a Johnny Sanchez apologist.

what was the worst major league team in the modern era?

i am gonna say the expos

which year?

1991?

Could they make a run at the 2003 Tigers (43-119)?

Whahaha Frenchy just pulled Zito one out shy of a QS shutout for 39 year old Keichi Yabu because Aaron Rowand can't catch a routine can of corn.

Love Spring Training.

Giants lose to their triple a team.

CRIKEY.

EASY SOLUTION: AAAers = WELCOME 2 THA MAJORS; PRO TEAM = SAY HAY-LO TO FRESNO

Haaaa -- Kuiper & Krukow just cracked that the Splash Hits sign in RF should be replaced w/ an Infield Hits sign.

Also, kudos to SF for giving bloggers and man-children across the US loads of giggles by keeping Bocock up. :p

Save that filth for the mound.

That's the general idea!

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And so it begins...

Barry Zito takes the mound...

- R. Furcal ground rule double to deep left

- A. Ethier popped out to shallow left
- M. Kemp singled to center, R. Furcal scored, M. Kemp to second advancing on throw

- J. Kent homered to deep left center, M. Kemp scored

4-0 in the 2nd.

Giants have zero plate discipline. I would love to see their pitch per plate appearance vs. the rest of the league at the end of the year.

it's too bad they didn't resign Feliz but it looks like their new guy is even worse so hmmm....

and I'm not done yet. The Giants 2 biggest signings of the paste two seasons add up to $186 million: Zito and Rowand.

Zito was as ineffective as predicted, almost boringly so...

But the kicker is Rowand who was the lone free agent "superstar" positioned to replace Barry Bonds... and to commence the season, Bochy slots Rowand in the 6 spot in favor of Rich Aurilia in the 2 hole. Hmmm.

paste = past

Not a good day for Bocock.

and so it begins...

• A light collision involving rookie shortstop Brian Bocock and Roberts that left Roberts on his knees, his glove flung into left field.

• A dropped popup by second baseman Ray Durham, leading to a run.

• A couple wild pitches.

• A passed ball.

• Two missed cutoff men by center fielder Aaron Rowand.

• A man (OK, the rookie Bocock) getting picked off first in the eighth inning, in a five-run deficit.

• A few unnerving moments leading into the bottom of the eighth, in which the Giants appeared content to go it without a left fielder. (Which, come to think of it, would have been a suitable tribute to the man who was supposed to have been holding the franchise back.)

^^tim brown on yahoo

161 more to go, chums!

3-0, top of the second: Krukow and Kuiper were talking about how they didn't think the Giants were going to be able to come back from a lot of three-run leads this year. Way to give up on YOUR TEAM in the top of the 2nd, Giants announcers!

;_;

Il n'ya pas de pleurant dans le baseball. Vous savez celui..

PECOTA=adjusted playoff odds

COL 84%

SF 13%

Should probably try to win games against the Padres imo

NL Pitcher VORP

Lincecum 64.7
Wainwright 64.3
Haren 62.6
Carpenter 62.0

Yikes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?entry_id=48000

One of his teammates knows how to beat a murder rap in the Dominican. He should be ok.

If had an OBP of >.320 he might have been the best offensive player in the Giants organization including MLB.

always giggle a bit when i see a thread with "100 YEAR OLDS" in the title is bumped by morbs

I was basking in Bengie Molina's AMAZING .289 OBP at Dodger Stadium on Sunday. Hollee shit.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/giants/2010-01-14-giants-organizational-report_N.htm

I cringed every time an announcer would talk about Molina taking Pablo Sandoval under his wing during last season..

And I hate the Giants...

PECOTA '10:

Benjie Molina: .280/.317/.434, Defense: 96-C
Buster Posey: .274/.349/.422, Defense: 72-C

meaning not too different of a VORP projection giving either the majority of the PAs.

but here's the crazy thing:

breakout/improve/collapse
BM: 10/37/29
BP: 17/45/24

they're really closely matched, just on opposing ends of their careers.

ok, i'm starting to get excited about this year!

i'm trying to stay positive... but it seems like their biggest gain in the off-season was sandoval's prescription goggles.

how fat is the panda? i heard he's bigger than LY: t/f?

i for one am happy to find out what would've happened if CC never became a pitcher

Panda looked pretty portly on mlb tv last night doing fielding drills.

Fat Ichiro was a much better name than this pixar mickey mouse shit

well dude has quite a bit more power than ichiro, long live drives vs. slappy chops/running out infield grounders. not really the same animal imo.

.001 difference in OBP

Joe Mauer and Albert Pujols had a .001 difference in OBP last year but they're pretty different.

Giants resuming their tradition of butt-hurtedness already

Barry Zito worked 1 2/3 innings and allowed a run Thursday in the Giants' 5-3 win over the Brewers.

The story from the game will be that Zito plunked Prince Fielder in apparently retaliation for Fielder's "bowling pin" home run celebration against the Giants last year. Fielder was fine, and he ended up going 1-for-2 in the game. Still, it was a message sent.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/03/500x_tim-lincecum-giants-snuggie.jpg

i imagine his life being like brad pitts in true romance only w piles and piles of money.

so Bumgardner looks hurt?

Seems like it. From what I read he's barely been able to get up to 90 on the gun.

Theres also murmurs of Lincecum being hurt because hes lost some speed on his fastball, but seems like its too early to start that kind of speculation.

too much doobage.

Lincecum will be fine, he had great stuff in his last game.

Wellemeyer looked great today getting out of those first and third situations with no runs.

not sure what happening with Bumgardner but we don't need him right now...

the Giants sign extensions with Brian Wilson, Jeremy Affeldt and Matt Cain. still not sold on Wilson because of all the people he gets on base. signing Cain however and not having to deal with it is a strong move on managements part.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview10/news/story?page=10expertpicks

Jim Caple,
ESPN.com

East champ: Yankees
Central champ: Twins
West champ: Rangers
Wild card: Rays
Champion: Twins

East champ: Braves
Central champ: Cardinals
West champ: Giants
Wild card: Diamondbacks
Champion: Giants

WORLD SERIES: Giants over Twins

BOLD CLAM ITT

what happened to Pandoval going to first?

also why dont u ppl start a 2010 thread?

Sandoval is the worst, he just chased three balls in the dirt.

Lincecum is in mid-season form, surprised after that horrible spring. good game overall with the bats doing some damage.

yeah, we need a new thread or change the title of this one.

Look, any of these jokers are welcome to start a new SFG thread, I'm done with this team (until September).

Or we can just use this thread: Sublimated Erotic Desire 2010