Does anyone REALLY like My Bloody Valentine?

Listening to 'Only Shallow' right now, and the bit where the chorus ends and the trumpet-fanfare-esque noise slowly falls out of synch with the drums, just as it drops down into the verse, made my hair stand on end.

Bare in mind that I didn't think much of MBV until just then. I think it could have something to do with the fact that when I first got the album I was at home sick with the flu, so I associated being incredibly disoriented and brainfucked with the music itself.

To whoever suggested that one should turn up the volume to feel the bass: there is no fucking bass. That's probably my only great grievance with it.

no

Sure, you could do that...but trust me, some records sound more interesting when you do it this way.

And in the next cubicle is Calum Roberts yelling "Turn that bloody racket down, Raggett!" as he cranks up his new Kylie CD.

Now, personally speaking I don't give two hoots about the 'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up' bollocks... that sounds like you're apologising for the sheer shiteness of the album and trying to defend it.

Nor, personally, do I care if there is any bass in there either.

No, no, no... my entire point was asking if I'm alone (well, my girlfriend hates it too) in thinking it's utter, utter tunelss bollocks. Judging by the respones to this thread, the band still has its defenders - and that's cool. I was simply passing an opinion and wondering if any like minded people thought that Loveless was shite.

Thanks to those that understood and responded with due intelligence.

(I assume you mean tuneless). WTF? It is gloriously tuneful! Try 'Come in Alone' for starters - how can you not hear the tune(s)? Ok, they're presented in an unusual way, but SURELY you can't be serious? TUNELESS? Pah!

I presume you've had those moments...and I presume when you're describing them to others, you're not defending but explaining rapture. Just a little something to keep in mind.

Still, it's a great record though, isn't it? Now listening to 'Off Your Face' from the 'Glider' 12". Giddying, effervescent.

'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up'

Must try this.

I tried that and it didn't work. Was it 'cuz I replaced the Tizer with malt liquor, or because I was drinking it though a Crazee-Twisty-Straw. Plus is made the blood rush to wrong head.

This is probably the truest thing I've ever read on ILM.

Me, too. I don't much bother listening to MBV at home, but my most intense gig moment EVER was MBV at the Ritz in Manchester in '92 or '93. The tweeters blew, our ribcages vibrated disturbingly, and a good deal of plaster was shaken from the ceiling. I was utterly transported, better than drugs.

*I* give a toss about the bass. Drums'n'bass are the most important parts of modern music IMHO, and they are the weekest bits BY FAR of this record, which makes it odd that Loveless is my favorite album. Plodding, static drums and dull bass playing sit lamely next to the fantastic melodies, harmonies and textures. A bit of funk to reinforce the wash would be bliss.

I was musing the other day that I love the album so much because my mind is filling in what the rhythm section (well, actually Kevin Shields - I believe he programmed the drums and played the bass) should have done . Isn't Anything is so much more fascinating from a rhythmic perspective, and You Made Me Realise is a step above even that - (ROCKIST ALERT) maybe it's because they recorded as an actual band for these records.

Primus suxxors BTW.

Could we please have an edit text function for all us pedants?.

*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*

I know that the principles were not geniuses (in any conventional sense), I know that the sound of Loveless is technically available to anyone with a laptop, two amps, two mics, and a stack of reverb pedals. I also know that (In The Presence Of Nothing and Despondent Transponder aside) few have bothered to emulate it.

The thing is, that fucking Loveless album ruined guitar music for me. For nearly two decades I've sought my musical transcendance in other genres, because Kevin Shields had taken all the potential envelope Albini hadn't claimed. I became a house fan, nodding my head to repetitive electronic beats, all because that Shields fellow dominating the guitar side of my head.

I say he's a witch.

I remember one winter, when I was lonely and smoking too much pot, all I played was 'daydream nation,' 'white light/white heat,' and 'loveless'
A lot of walking around with headphones, just letting it wash over me.

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congratulations you could pass for an american college student!

loveless is ok, I like it better than Isn't Anything, but I prefer the earlier EPs. tbh I think I'd rather listen to This Is Your Bloody Valentine than Loveless.

basically I'm the worst my bloody valentine fan in the world

Their best 18.42 minutes was the Tremolo EP, and I suggest trial by ordeal for those who disagree.

i've never heard "this is your BV" which i should probably remedy. i like geek! a lot.

I'd take it a bit further and suggest that "Glider" EP + "Tremolo" EP > "Loveless".

tremolo is perfect start to finish

the Glider EP is v. good

you could pass for an american college student!

wait the average american college student listens to MBV, Velvet Underground & sonic youth ?

the glider ep was the first valentines i heard.. don't ask why and off your face completely bent my teenage brain

hi these guys suck

u put on loveless and when the first song comes on ure like 'YAAAAAAH this sounds like a dying elephant it is awesome' but then the whole thing sounds exctly like that and u just go :/

my fave MBV stuff will always be loveless, glider, tremelo, and the feed me with yer kiss 12 inch. isn't anything is a weak sister compared to that stuff. and i say again like i've said before: if you've never heard feed me with yer kiss 12 inch u.k. version and only heard the album version than you have never ever heard that song.

geez ian all you had to do was ask

check out the ep you made me realise, came out right before isn't anything, not as fuzzy, more poppy, but still good stuff

a compilation of their four creation eps would be better than both albums imo

the creation 12" version is the one I'm thinking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Made_Me_Realise

The first album and early singles are really good. Not sure why people care about Loveless so much.

errr, "first" = Isn't Anything.

*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*

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this mental image is killing me

J gets bummed by #Lemmy: Deb of #mybloodyvalentine w/ @jmascis

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No lie: I would see her lead a Motorhead tribute band.

original thread question : more in '13 than '02 when this thread was started.

My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes for strings and electronics

*intrigued*

feed me with your kiss VS when you wake you're still in a dream

and also are there songs that are better played at earsplitting volume? if there are just point me that way

Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder

Sometimes is their indiest number - proper mumblecore - but good way to get some punters in.

Not that I'm going as I think this is MORALLY wrong

"Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder"

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That's exactly what I thought... maybe correctly?

I had a feeling that might happen