Dirty Projectors

that song is great. i don't know anything about afropop or any of that but i dig this song. nice clean gtr tone and the playing has a nice buttery feel. i jumped a little bit when the drum splatters came in for the first time
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the black flag "connection" is the last reason i'd listen to this. the that dogg thing is probably the worst part of the description and i've only ever heard like 2 animal collective songs (and the latest panda bear album which is kinda neat). i used to really like storm and stress. i think we might have different tastes.

also, i have to ask: joel, did you even listen to that song or are you basing your descriptions on some other factors?

i've heard this whole album already, jaxon, as well as previous albums by them. i don't like what i've heard.

i liked s&s's two records but a "poppy version" of them sounds weak.

and animal collective = they might be giants. fuck that.

http://www.daytrotter.com/download/311/id=383

woe, he's playing his guitar upside down

ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ERUPTING IN BACHATA AND REGGAETON !

in four thousand years rise above #1 will just be a footnote in the backstories for rise above #2 and Johnny Mnemonic

i don't actually think i like this :-/

given the album one listen so far. entirely baffled, i must say. what the hell is it?

I haven't heard this but the Getty Address was fantastic. Especially Jolly Jolly Jolly Ego. It sounds like him and a choir of dodgy tape players.

Not sure about Dirty Projectors. I enjoyed watching the aztec-intensive dvd of the Getty Address but all their stuff seems to wear thin once you get the hang of it.

I just got Getty Address. I like it so far, although it feels a bit too conscious of what it's doing at times. Better than Animal Collective, for sure.

i really like this band, but lately the lyrics really bug me. not even his weird singing voice, just the lyrics themselves. the rest of it is so meticulous and then that part is just kind of phoned in...

It has a bit of that same Dr. Spock baby "look what an eclectic, self-expressive genius I am" thing that annoys me about Animal Collective

you could call it just *being* an eclectic, self-expressive genius.

sorry i am not an easy-to-categorize average artist

wait, are you Dave Longstreth?

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no, i have never even heard this band, i just get tired of the criticism of people being too aware or consious of how they sound. are some people making a record by accident?

yeah

how is being conscious of your sound a bad thing?

talk about cockism

yeah, i'd take overly composed music over another sloppy jam band anyday.

I don't necessarily mean it's over-composed

I know.

Really though, I think the "look at me!" with acts like this is more in the listener who's threatened by like the flamboyant content or something.

I mean wouldn't saying a rapper gave off the vibe "lok at me, I'm an eclectic self-expressive genius" usually be a compliment?

i listened to some of this. i didn't even get the black flag thing at all. sometimes stuff like this seems like it was written with a press release first, just to bait rock writers, then do the album after it.

there's also the possibility that people WANT to make music that sounds different

not that this is the differentest band ever... but compared to a good deal of indie rock they are

i really like this band, but lately the lyrics really bug me. not even his weird singing voice, just the lyrics themselves. the rest of it is so meticulous and then that part is just kind of phoned in...

wait the black flag part of the lyrics ?

uhh what? not all of their songs are black flag covers...i haven't even listened to the one that is

err the one album that is. i was mostly talking about getty address and the glad fact.

When I saw them live I kept thinking "Jesus, shut that guy up and let the girls sing." Then I got a promo of the album (whatever one was before the Black Flag thing) and kept thinking, "Oh, you precious fuck, shut the hell up and let the girls sing."

Oh, and to answer the years-old question: No, the reason that no one wrote about this is not because it was too complicated. It was because if you like complicated music, this is disappointing and if you like poppy music, this is annoying. It hits the same dilettante weirdness level as Animal Collective.

i'm kind of afraid to listen to the black flag covers.

<i>i'm kind of afraid to listen to the black flag covers.</i>

You should be...it's awful stuff.

I mean wouldn't saying a rapper gave off the vibe "lok at me, I'm an eclectic self-expressive genius" usually be a compliment?

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C'mon, ILM! No love for Rise Above? This is a kick-ass record.

Oh yeah, I played Six Pack on my radio show about a month ago.
Really cool.

i'm revisiting this now (it's getting a whole lot of love around montreal, randomly) and i've decided it's great. more the beginning than the end, though, i think.

"Rise Above" is the best thing on it.

i too had my misgivings about this band but the absolutely killed it last night in portland. fuck. like why do i even try to make music?? one of those shows ...

interesting fact: apparently ezra koenig of vampire weekend was a dirty projector between 2002-05. the fuck?~!?

I read this http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=6538 article in the newspaper. I didn't know until just now that Dirty Projectors were supposed to be fake afropop. I thought they were supposed to be Don Caballero with sick lyrics and harmonies over it.

Has the singer guy from Dirty Projectors ever said himself that he is ripping off black people, or is it just a music journalist overlay? I always thought their sound was just math rock. (Or is it that math rock is ripping off black people??)

Please clarify, thanks.

he does use some afro-pop guitar work on his records, guitar picking techniques and such, but it's not like it's anything new in rock to do this.

Has the singer guy from Dirty Projectors ever said himself that he is ripping off black people

haha, no, i don't think so

also this :

Vampire Weekend; Arctic Monkeys of 2008?

for an indepth discussion that would prove interesting to you, if you take issue with that article

Has the singer guy from Dirty Projectors ever said himself that he is ripping off black people, or is it just a music journalist overlay? I always thought their sound was just math rock. (Or is it that math rock is ripping off black people??)

All I know of Dirty Projectors is whatever the ~hour long animated thing on pitchfork.tv is (which is pretty consistently great, actually) and a live show I caught in Ithaca a few months back. Neither one of those sounded remotely like what you're describing.

Seeing them live just solidified how fucking great they are for me.. They did mostly 'Rise Above' stuff and it all sounded stunning...the amazing harmonies, the gobsmacking guitar work...it just sounded effortless and brilliant.

I get the feeling they've yet to do their best stuff though. And folks who lump 'em in with Vampire Weekend are just wrong, if anyone actually does who has heard them both.

There's some sproingy guitar that suggests they've listened to a few afropop records, but to lump them in with a movement like that is selling them way short--they are playing with the full musical deck and have been for a few albums now.

How is Dirty Projectors anything like Vampire Weekend? I mean, they're both indie Ivy League bands in New York City, but Dirty Projectors is somewhere in the "weirdy beardy" brand whereas Vampire Weekend's more like MTV pop.

I've had Rise Above for a few months. "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie" is very good and the title track is nice, but the rest doesn't do much to tickle my giblets. Is any of their other stuff worth getting?

I love the way this guy wails. im not too keen on how some of 'The Getty Address' sounds. I find the plonker percussion really grating, but the arrangements are mostly great. 'New Attitude' is my pick. The track 'Fucked For Life' is incredible. You get a sense that with such a strong voice, and the ability to find those snatches of awesome melodic counterparts that there is an ability to just not be so damn difficult with the songs, but i adore how it just is.

Slaves' Graves and Ballads!

new album has leaked and is pretty amazing

That Phoenix compilation with the Rise Above cover (while I was in the middle of rediscovering Damaged) made me curious enough to want to hear this. The Getty Address was pretty great imo.

I've had "Stillness is the Move" on repeat since yesterday

new one is pretty pretty good. very schizophrenic.

been really into "lamp lit prose" recently, such a tight, breezy return to form

break-thru is cool

whole album is cool, i agree with k3vin k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHGYtIqLig

New video from new album with new band (i.e. Lamp Lit Prose touring group). Maia Friedman as lead vocalist and co-lyricist.

P chill and it is growing on me.

That's a nice song. I really loved Bitte Orca and Swing Lo Magellan, but didn't like it when he started changing it up and acting like a creep. Should I revisit?

Lamp Lit Prose was a lot less creepy and very good

yeah the s/t was not very good but lamp lit prose is maybe my favourite dp album

i would characterise the s/t as more jerk than creep

lamp lit prose was recorded all by dave with guest vocalists added. the new record i think is recorded with the band put together to tour lamp lit prose

hadnt realised that overlord was from an EP that came out in March. it's good! there's also a related playlist on Spotify full of jams that they put up w Arthur Russell, 70s Dylan, judee sill etc

there's another EP on its way, this is the single from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAcgEtY_CM

with three other EPs also set for release this year. the gimmick is a different band member sings lead on each, except the last which will have everyone

The Windows Open playlist is a real treat.

I had a big hunch they were gonna do EPs with each of the singers taking the lead a month ago, especially after Windows Open was all Maya and it came from a such as it was derived from that Portland indie-folk root of the DPs catalogue

I hope they do a bananas orchestral EP amongst the later releases too

3rd EP out today. really into these

I love this song so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyU5dHmmFmE

With the latest releases it feels like the new band has come into its own and stopped trying to sound like the band with Amber and Angel. I did love a few tracks on Lamp Lit Prose but it still felt a little like Dave was trying to keep something going that wasn't there anymore.

Holy Mackerel is such a jam. I like stripped-down bossa nova DPs, but also the full-on electronic production too. He's gotten so good at it and Lamp Lit Prose is a high point.

agree his dancey/R&B-style production is ace

I was recently with my aging millennial friends who stopped listening to much new music by 2012, and trying to convince them that Dirty Projectors, Vampire Weekend, and Grizzly Bear had all released their best albums within the last three years.

With the latest releases it feels like the new band has come into its own and stopped trying to sound like the band with Amber and Angel. I did love a few tracks on Lamp Lit Prose but it still felt a little like Dave was trying to keep something going that wasn't there anymore.

The new band was put together after Lamp Lit Prose, which was almost all Dave and guest vocalists doing a song each with him.

I think the new stuff feels quite related to The Glad Fact era, except each of the elements is way more developed just by being a more experienced writer. Super excited to see what the next two EPs hold.

I am very into the new EPs, mostly because Felicia is amazing. "Super Joao" is somewhat disappointing to me because, well, 'the bossanova mood is not created'

I'm very curious about the songwriting process, since it feels very obvious what is a Dave melody and what isn't, no matter who's singing it (like, even when Rihanna is the one singing it).

the press release said that dave wrote everything for these EPs, except for the lyrics which were a collaboration between him and whichever band member is singing lead for each EP

felicia's other band gemma i really good, i've been really into their album feeling's not a tempo lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZtETeYGVYM

I read that DL collaborated with Kyle from Little Wings on the lyrics for Super João

I hope they do a bananas orchestral EP amongst the later releases too

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Ha I was just thinking of that prediction. Will the last one be a big groovy Bitte Orca vibe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzhCV1nla7g

last EP out soon

love this one

the tiny desk concert was lovely.

great track

the full 5EPs works quite nicely as a whole, it's all pleasantly relaxed while covering quite a few different sounds yet remains cohesive

I got my box set during the week. It's a beautiful package, worth the investment made in March!

Does anyone else find the album (particularly the Earth Crisis segment) profoundly depressing/anxiety-provoking, or do I need to have a talk with my psychiatrist

super joao and earth crisis playlists now up on spotify

Both playlists are great.

Earth Crisis one is a big compendium of a lot of the stuff DL has mentioned over the years as influential on his composing for chamber ensembles, lots of Mahler lieder.

The Super Joao won has lots of great Brazilian stuff on it (unsurprisingly)

The Brazilian one is great, ty

Does anyone else find the album (particularly the Earth Crisis segment) profoundly depressing/anxiety-provoking, or do I need to have a talk with my psychiatrist

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fwiw, not with this specifically, but I have definitely had that experience where at particular times, I'll be hyper-sensitive to particular records.