Transport in London is shit

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i don't buy a monthly travel card!

but i only really use buses and not even daily -- i reckon so far i am up on the deal by some way though given the fierceness w.which they are policin the bendies now this will probbly have to change :(

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is it not, possibly, slightly contradictory to demand more people manning tube/rail stations and to complain about fares being too expensive?

theantmustdance (theantmustdance), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

No, I think that's sensible - at least sorting out the ridiculous cost of travelleling by rail across the UK.

I still have trouble understanding why/how Virgin charge £75 return to Manchester (with other return options reaching over £400) when you can fly several times the distance for half the price. And why does it take twice as long coming back? Can trains not tilt southbound?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

i don't buy a monthly travel card!

we all know you arrived here just a few days ago from Kabul. the game's up, sonny chief.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've not had any bad experiences travelling through and around London for a while now. I don't use the trains much but when I do they look and feel new, clean and seem to run fine. I am even cool with the Bendies, but only when they're quiet and you can get one of those big comfy seats (must face forward though).

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

The trains are really good, the tube is depressing.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is it not, possibly, slightly contradictory to demand more people manning tube/rail stations and to complain about fares being too expensive?

I don't know about the tube, but the rail companies apparently make over £100m profit a year in London, and the cost for providing staff is estimated to be between £2m to £4m a year.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

T/S: Nationalisation vs. Privatisation

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Actually, we must have done that thread already...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

those big comfy seats

I don't find them comfortable in the slightest. They seem much harder than the seats on most other buses * and, into the bargain, the poor suspension on those vehicles gives a very bumpy ride in my experience.

* the notable exceptions to this that I've found are a few of the buses used on the 341 route which have purple seats with ridiculously thin upholstery; but these are not to be confused with some others on the same route which also have purple seats but which are wonderfully comfortable.

Oak (small items), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

the tube is depressing

Very true. Resolving as I did about 4 years ago not to travel on it any more was one of the best decisions I have ever made, in a number of ways.

Oak (small items), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Flights, to anywhere in europe should never be CHEAPER than a rail ticket, advance or not.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rotgutt (Rotgutt), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 01:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

No, pet. Transport in Los Angeles is shit. There is none to speak of. Come try it and see if you don't agree. If you don't have a car you're sk-rewed. If you DO have a car you're sk-rewed too since there are too many cars and not enough roads and freeways to move millions of cars holding ONE person per car. London transport rocks, comparitively. Off your thread topic, but lending my own obnoxious perspective - welcome or not.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 01:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Transport in London is LOTS better than transport in New York.

Is this actually true? I'd always thought received wisdom said the exact opposite.

Public transport in London is good, but wasn't really designed to serve a city that's growing this fast - seems to be where all the problems stem from.

Oak - are you the person I think you are? Something rings familiar here.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

transport in london (on the tube) is expensive.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

My personal experiences weigh towards London being a little better than NYC.. on the other hand, I didn't need to get from one neighborhood to another after midnight in London... The "after midnight" factor makes the difference here, I think.

Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

transport in london is great*

*maybe not if you use the northern line

kings cross - south wimbledon, last thursday, circa midnight = 100 minutes

but yeah, mostly its good. 24 hour tubes would be nice.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

anyone who thinks London's transport system is bad has obviously never witnessed the sheer horror of transport outside of the M25.

outside london you can, you know, walk or cycle places.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

how much is a monthly travelcard anyway?

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

outside london you can, you know, walk or cycle places.

you can do those things inside london too, you know.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

death wish

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

the cost for providing staff is estimated to be between £2m to £4m a year

Eh? How many people do you reckon they employ?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

trains between countries in europe are always more expensive than flying! eg london > barcelona - train - 180 euros, plane 110 euros.

i cant see train travel getting much cheaper as a result of competition from air travel. maybe we should read my friends dissertation about rail/air competition for business travel between leeds and london. isnt the problem partly that franchising to an extent creates kinda flabby uncompetitive practice, where profits can be made in relative safety from predatory activity, if there isnt strong enough contractual arrnagements or tight enough regulation on the performance of the franchisee?

eg "we award you this contract but will continue to allow you to increase fares/reduce penalties for poor performance, and you can do this for the next 10 years" as opposed to "you have a guaranteed revenue stream for the next 10 years but oyu must ensure to do X Y Z and not do P Q and S"?

i dont really know anything about this anyways.

i guess in a sense i dont really compare london to other cities in europe so that gives me a warped sense of how good transport is in comparison to other UK CITIES (dear sirz, outside of london there are population sizes larger than Basildon, Letchworth, and Chorlton-cum-Hardy). but then again what other european cities are comparable? how does paris do? it might be hyperbole but what euro cities are comparable in terms of geograpohic spread, density of developemnt, population etc etc?

moscow was pretty awesome but they run everything on vodka there, or something. actually it was sort of shit outside the metro, but it depends what your criteria for "good public transport" are

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

paris is a lot smaller than london, it's true. for me it's all about money. £2.50 for a tube journey is fucked.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

The prices are ridiculous, thanks a lot Ken Fucking Livingstone

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought the subway in New York was more confusing (all that fast train / slow train business, and the lines don't have nice names like Victoria and Piccadilly) but much, much cheaper - about a third of the cost.

When it comes to the 'after midnight' bit, in London that usually means walking through the rain then freezing at a bus stop for half an hour then sitting on a very slow nightbus full of nutters, or paying twenty-five quid to a random ex-convict with a 'taxi' who'll drive you home (eventually, after getting lost) while spouting reactionary nonsense at you the whole way. In New York there seem to be five yellow taxis waiting for you immediately at any time, they don't cost much, and with the grid system they don't get lost.

Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

The bus service is great, but they're (now) far too expensive too

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's not perfect, but Wiggy is right, compared to LA it's the best transport system ever. I thought it was about the same as NYC although it is more expensive. The buses have got a lot better in recent years, and I think CCTV has made night buses a bit safer, at least I never see any trouble on them these days.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

lol lol lol!!!!!

again, its hard not to laugh when you are subject to the whims of a properly deregulated market outside of london. First Groups bus fares went up 4 times in a year in s yorks, now its 1.50 a single on first buses. still 1.20/30 in london?

as for tube fares, what is expensive about a 2.50 tube fare? in comparison to previous prices? or are you assessing the cost of labour, infrastructure, distance travelled etc etc and concluding that it is overpriced?

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

as for tube fares, what is expensive about a 2.50 tube fare? in comparison to previous prices? or are you assessing the cost of labour, infrastructure, distance travelled etc etc and concluding that it is overpriced?

-- ambrose (ambrosewhit...), February 14th, 2006.

what's expensive is, it's expensive! let someone else do the math. but yes 'distance travelled' being about 2-3 miles, it does seem out of proportion.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've never seen any trouble on a bus in London ever. If you think night buses in London are dodgy, you should have tried spending most of your adolescent Friday and Saturday nights getting the night bus from Glasgow to Paisley at George Square.

still 1.20/30 in london?

It's now £1.50. Considering that, what 4 years ago(?), local journeys were 70p, I'd say that is somewhat above the rate of inflation.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

are you assessing the cost of labour, infrastructure, distance travelled etc etc and concluding that it is overpriced?

another factor to consider might be the *vast fucking profits* made by the operator too?

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

But Londoners moaning about having the best transport system in Britain is a bit boring, I agree

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

but maybe justified on a thread of this name?

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

It would tend to encourage that response

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

How does one get to this 'outside London'? Are you talking about the end of the Central Line or that Zone B nonsense at the end of the Metropolitan Line?

Bendy Bus 38 on diversion Saturday. Confused the hell out of me. KEN OUT! etc.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's now £1.50. Considering that, what 4 years ago(?), local journeys were 70p, I'd say that is somewhat above the rate of inflation.

But 80p on Oyster or Carnet.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

... and what if you don't use public transport every day? If you're unemployed or an OAP (do they get concessions)?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

my oyster seems to subtract £1 on the bus. must ask tfl.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

... or a part time worker?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just think it's a fucking crime the amount of money commuters are expected to pay. If I worked in London, it would cost me around about £16-£25 to travel a few miles from Hitchin into the capital every single day. This might just about be justified if the service was fast and efficient. However I abject to the fact that these people are swiping up to a third of commuters' wages for the privilege of standing* with some guy's armpit in their face and being *ahem* "whisked" along at a comparatively laconic rate over a very short distance. And that's if your train actually turns up**, or if the elusively crap ticket machine decides to give you a ticket as opposed to swallowing your cash card.
Why exactly does it cost so much just to traverse a small area of this tiny island? Why is it so unreliable? Why are there so few trains? Why, if I'm out in London, am I stranded if I decide to stay out after midnight? Why are the staff so rude all the time? Why don't they have a ticket barrier that stops people dodging fares? Why don't the ticket machines ever work? Why is there never more than one person selling tickets at a time? Why are the trains so slow?
Tear it down and start again, I reckon. Antiquated bollocks run by a bunch of retarded money-grubbing jerks.

*or sitting down on the floor where they get kicked
** for many people, they won't know their train isn't coming until several minutes after the fact since all the video terminals are fucked

Vintage Latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

£1 between 7:30am and 9:30am

OAPs get freedom passes and their are concessionary fares for Jobseekers/New Deal

Not having an oyster of some sort is foolish

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Concessionary fares for Jobseekers/New Deal? Are you sure?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

I rode the new DLR extension to George V t'other day. I love the DLR. I like the look of the new 'Millennium' park by the Thames Barrier.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

that's fkn typical that the fares are 20p higher *when you're most likely to us it*. it makes the 80p claim a load of old toss.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

>> Concessionary fares for Jobseekers/New Deal? Are you sure?

I never heard of this when I was signing on, but that was a couple of years ago.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think you gradually become immune. It's every bit as shit as before, but I'm just another cockneyfied zombie now.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't have a monthly Travelcard - I did for a few years but I figured with the monotony of my public transport usage (and tending towards going out in the car at weekends) I wasn't getting my money's worth, so I switched to Oyster Pre-Pay. Inbetween I had a spell of Bus Pass + Pre-Pay top-up, which worked nicely for the occasional Tube journey.

Now I just get the X68 both ways (long walk at the Zone 1 end, but I probably need it) and tend to spend around £30-35/month. (Z1-3 Travelcard is £100/mo, Z1-2 is £85/mo [would allow me to use buses outside Z2 but not rail], All Zone Bus Pass is £52/mo).

The capping of Oyster Pre-Pay so that you never pay more than an equivalent daily Travelcard or Bus Pass if you find yrself bus- and Tube-hopping is a nice feature. Now, if they'd just install Oystercard readers at SE London surburban rail stations...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

hmm, you're not all screaming for the striking tube-workers' heads to be put on spikes outside buckingham palace

It's always this (it's happened elsewhere in this thread during one of the last of the strikes? These happen often) - it's always hysterical, there's no room for discussion that there's not something unsympathetic about fucking over, say, sick people (or even *admission* or *acknowledgement* that some people get fucked over by this beyond simple inconvenience? Or is the idea that yes, fine, some people get fucked over - collateral damage for the larger ideological point?).

Take a moment to imagine what this kind of thing does to a hospital - where most of the employees are making a lot less money for a lot more work, which I know is a touchy thing to bring up, because obviously we shouldn't be talking about dragging one group down rather than raising both up - and then read a quote about a driver complaining she can't get on Tinder underground.

There are shades to this shit. I just want it acknowledged. There are people who get genuinely fucked by this, and you have to be OK with that to take such a passionate, definitive stance.

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:14 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

collateral damage for the larger ideological point

What ideology?

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:17 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

of course there are shades - not being able to get on tinder underground is a shade

conrad, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:27 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

but this stuff has been acknowledged, time and again, above in this thread.

do you not think, perhaps, if the services of the tube-workers are so important, they should be respected and not fucked around as they have been by TFL in this instance (thinking specifically the dithering and late delivery and swift relinquishment before the union members could be adequately polled) of the deal last week? and do you not think that tfl hold at least as much blame for the strike as the unions?

are you saying that because their services are essential, that they should not be allowed collective representation, and that when their contracts are changed in a massively punitive way, as is being proposed, that they should just sit there and take it? are you saying that they cannot make their issues the safety of the new setup heard?

the unions are pilloried in pretty much every major press outlet whenever these strikes occur.

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:28 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

One of the notably bad things about the Tories which people seldom discuss is the suspicion and bitterness they engender in us.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:30 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

divide & conquer

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:23 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

wait is that Dr Ruth behind him?

This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:24 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I think the fact that the tube strike will cause disruption in London has been fairly widely acknowledged. It is the central theme of every article I have seen concerning it. The main one on the Guardian this morning did not even think to report why workers were going on strike, although it did find space to mention the minister for transport's views about it.

What are the shades you mention? that people are inconvenienced by strikes? yes, I think it is understood that this is a necessary part of strikes. it is the weight they carry, the leverage held by the worker. this is all fairly basic stuff. that other people are worse off? yes many people are very badly off in this country. public services have been under a sustained attack for decades and the budget announced yesterday is a reminder of the continual decline of the welfare state. I also work in the public sector and work very hard for little pay but I would prefer to stand in solidarity with other workers for better treatment and a fairer share of the extraordinary wealth of this city than to be governed by the politics of envy and resentment that defines mainstream public discourse concerning labour relations here.

plax (ico), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:29 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Take a moment to imagine what this kind of thing does to a hospital - where most of the employees are making a lot less money for a lot more work, which I know is a touchy thing to bring up, because obviously we shouldn't be talking about dragging one group down rather than raising both up - and then read a quote about a driver complaining she can't get on Tinder underground.

Ribs, the strike is not actually about not being able to access Tinder underground.

2011’s flagrantly ceremonious rock-opera (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:49 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

yes, press coverage of this event has been simplistic, divisive, and superficial. which is pretty par for the course really. its worth having a think about how your response is being shaped by this.

plax (ico), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I don't think the article even quotes this woman mentioning tinder. The way it's phrased implies to me that she pointed out that her already unsociable working hours were about to get much worse and then by way of explanation the article adds that tinder is unavailable on the tube. I mean potentially this strike is about access to dating apps, who am I to say.

plax (ico), Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:00 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

MORE MISERY FOR COMMUTERS AS UNIONS 'SWIPE LEFT' OVER TINDER BAN

2011’s flagrantly ceremonious rock-opera (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:12 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

i would fully support a strike in favour of tinder access. but the wider point there, that working underground, especially as a driver, is intense, isolated, and lonely in a way that little other work is, and so deserves the adequate respect in every sense, is a good one too

Take a moment to imagine what this kind of thing does to a hospital - where most of the employees are making a lot less money for a lot more work

and they'd be doing even more work for even less money if not for successful strike actions in the past, and would probably be providing a worse service as a result. i have sympathy for the difficulties the strike has caused you, but even from yr hyperindividualistic standpoint we all ultimately benefit from public service workers getting a fair deal of things

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:26 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

As a cyclist, lot of amateur cyclists out there today. A lot of amateur pedestrians too, no visible evidence that they've ever operated a physical body near roads.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:55 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't have too much of this - tho there were a lot more cyclists than usual, which created its own problems. a few drivers on a very short fuse. i gestured at one passing me very close to give me more space and he bawled at me 'do you want the whole road? not as if i touched you!' Wasn't time to say i tended to define 'touched' as 'hit' when it comes to cars.

more generally, arguments against the tube strike seem entirely mendacious. there was no consultation on the night working - a substantial change to t&cs - and the pay offer was pathetic. this is a unanimous walkout by skilled and professional staff who keep an astonishingly complicated transport network running remarkably efficiently for the most part (and are almost universally helpful and professional ime). people who complain about the effect of a strike, either general or examples specific referring to the immobile and the unwell, are only showing the value of that service and the people who provide it. In a meaningfully democratic society that's a value that's represented in money, specifically wages, and contractual terms. You want them to work nights to provide an extra service to the London public - what's it worth to you? The idea that vital public servants should suck up extra work without recourse to action only services an ideology that is determined to remove public services from the wider public. What NV said - if you don't support the strikes, you're a Tory. A few people use the 'ill person reliant on public transport' argument, and as already said, this only shows the worth of the people providing public transport. But there's a wider point, which is the defence of public services in a political environment which is ideologically determined to dismantle them. If you're ill you rely on the public services - a strike, though undoubtedly extremely unwelcome, is designed to help vulnerable people like that. A successful, fully implemented tube strike shows what can be achieved by hospital staff, general transport staff, the less well payed, but still very important, levels of the civil service. There has to be a recourse against a government determined to favour those with money and capital, and any fight against that is one that is designed to help the general public, the 90% if you like, regardless of whether that's acknowledged by the entirety of that public or not.

I know nearly everyone here knows this, but it sort of builds up inside you during the day, and you have to express it somewhere. The news, as plax said, has generally made no effort to explain the terms of the dispute, and is only interested in spurious 'why can't i get home' vox pop argument.

*theatrically barges out of thread*

Fizzles, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:28 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

u r rite

2011’s flagrantly ceremonious rock-opera (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

upvote

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

fizzles otm

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:13 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

and it's true for all cities/public institutions

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 9 July 2015 20:14 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

You regard other bus users as 'cunts' through righteous indignation, you theatrically barge past people physically taking out your own frustrations on them and you create a confrontational drama....I really hope I don't get on a bus with you

I, on the other hand, would welcome Tom's presence

Let's go, FIFA! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:33 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

nauseating to think that tom d is out there diminishing the thoughtful kindness and politeness i've come to expect from london commuters

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm touched that Tom was doing it for my benefit:

...deserved to have these facts pointed out to them so that maybe next time, maybe when you get on a bus to go to your work to pay your bills etc etc, he might act less like a cunt.

Turns out he was the Mother Theresa, after all - not me.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:15 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Mother Theresa is a name synonymous with villainy.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 July 2015 23:08 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Tom D is a name synonymous with villainy. The Fantômas of the shadowy demi-monde of Shit Commuter.

Tom D. yesterday.

Fizzles, Friday, 10 July 2015 03:10 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Pursuing the noble villainous art of metaphorical cuffing around the ears cos cunts gotta be told for their own and everyone else's good mansplaining since 2002, I'll wager.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Friday, 10 July 2015 08:32 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Why 2002?

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Friday, 10 July 2015 09:09 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

not sure if I should be surprised you're using 'mansplaining' in its new, exciting, completely redundant context

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 July 2015 09:23 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

as opposed to the old exciting completely redundant etc

irl lol (darraghmac), Friday, 10 July 2015 09:25 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

something about 'derailing' here maybe

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 July 2015 09:26 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

heh

irl lol (darraghmac), Friday, 10 July 2015 09:36 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Apologies - there's something about Transport in London which makes me IA and unreasonable. I'm taking myself off here for a bit.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Friday, 10 July 2015 09:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Not at all, I'm the unreasonable one here, remember?

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Friday, 10 July 2015 11:18 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

FYI I'm pretty sure that if Tom's bus dude were able to get the Tube yesterday he'd have been one of those fuckers who gets on a half-empty carriage and immediately stands right in front of the door.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 July 2015 12:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

These people are the worst fucking human beings in the world and I wish them nothing but unpleasantness.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 July 2015 12:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Bet they also get to the top/bottom of an escalator, step off then DON'T FUCKING GO ANYWHERE.

ailsa, Friday, 10 July 2015 12:57 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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