Agreed, stupendous stuff.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link
"stargazer" is so, so good.
and no worries pfunk, nobody rational could possibly object to dio week.
...but I was going to pick mob rules and the last in line. ;-)
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
That was what Jeff wanted! lol
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
special dio tribute week bonus albums:
bonus pick #1black sabbath - mob ruleshttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B001EOOQF6.jpg
bonus pick #2dio - the last in linehttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002L61.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna listen to so much dio this week.
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Might as well throw in this, too:
bonus pick #3Rainbow - Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbowhttp://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/0f/de/6109810ae7a0dcd3b6a2b110.L.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
cool, I've never listened to that one before. (prob bc of the cover.)
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Never listened to Rainbow before but I quite enjoyed Rising. Cool proggy organ break on "A Light in the Black".
― Sundar, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
It's been a Dio monday, and definitely a lot of sad thoughts mixed with the joy of hearing these great records.
I like the first Rainbow record more than Rising, though "Stargazer" is by far the best thing Dio did with Blackmore. I think the first is a bit more organic sounding - Elf had been together for a fairly long time, and that rapport just isn't there on Rising, even if the tunes are stronger overall. The keyboard solo on "A Light In The Black" is just -- I don't have the words, because horrible and cheesy and hackle-raising just don't cut it.
Heaven and Hell is pretty great all the way through, though the obvious highlights of "Neon Knights" and the title track are way past pretty great and live in the realm of the majestic. Adrien posted a Rollins rant about Dio on twitter this morning where Rollins goes off on the evil woman trope that is on every Dio record; of course, we get "Evil Lady" and "Walk Away" on this one. But we also get one of my favorite Dio lines "It's a long way to nowhere, and I'm leaving very soon. On the way we pass so close to the back side of the moon." Not the dark side or the far side, but the back side of the moon. Ever since I was little this has made me titter.
Holy Diver. I'll probably be the only one, but this is my favorite of the three. "Stand Up and Shout" was what I wanted from metal when I first heard it back in '84, and it stil smokes. The title track is a justifiable classic, and his vocal phrasing is great - "jump, jump -- jump on the tiger". What is with the baaing sheep sound dubbed over the word hell in "Don't Talk To Strangers"? Anyone? It's not just the Satan=goat thing, right? The vocal phrasing in the slow intro of "Invisible" reminds me of Neil Young's "Cortez the Killer" - you can't quite sing one to the other, but it's close. "Rainbow in the Dark" may have the cheesiest keyboard this side of the aforementioned "A Light in the Black", but here works. Love the video with him on the rooftops making faces at a camera on a crane.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I've read a lot about metal and Dio, but I can't recall seeing an interview where the writer got him to go into detail about what the appeal of the rainbow was. That image pops up in practically everything he's done since 1975, at least every major work.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
never got into Dio, but now's a good time to start. just finished listening to rising and it's damn good! i always hate it when i start appreciating someone's music just as they've passed.
― borntohula, Monday, 17 May 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost - Of course I'll be happy to go next week EZ Snappin. No worries.
I played 3 hours of Dio (Rainbow through Heaven + Hell) at my Dj gig last night. The guy has so many great songs!
1) Rising - "Stargazer" has to be the ultimate Dio track. So epic and glorious. I first heard it while on tour in Denver, staying in a squat on a snowy night. Dio had always been there, but I was an avowed Ozzy fan for a long, long time before I finally succumbed. This song and album helped me break the chains.
2) Heaven & Hell - The best non-Ozzy Sabbath record, period. "Children of the Sea" is one of my favorite songs by any band. Plus the title track (which Solitude Aeturnus nails pretty well too) is so heavy. It's Bill Ward's last stand, even if they somehow "drug" him back for Born Again.
3) Holy Diver - This was the only Dio record I owned as a younger man, and now it's the most critical omission from my collection. No idea what happened to it, but I recall purposefully asking the clerk to make me a $6.66 price tag to put on the cover. I'm afraid I once thought "Rainbow in the Dark" was by far the best song on this album. And I do stand by that song (as I'm a big lover of synthesizer, so no problems there). But clearly the title track is a monster and the playing and the production and that signature bass sound; all top notch.
I do wish that The Devil You Know was being discussed here. That really was my favorite album of 2009 (check my Pazz N Jop poll if you think I'm being revisionist). It's just the most amazing set of workhorse doom metal songs with the fully matured Dio voice, weathered, world-weary, but still incredibly vital. Seeing the band live last year was a big deal for me. D.I.O.R.I.P.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 17 May 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree; I really love The Devil You Know, as my AMG review makes clear.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 17 May 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I wish I had heard that rainbow album years ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Phil - Those 4 stars are well-deserved.
Herman - It's never too late! Took me a long time too.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
BTW Phil, AMG seems to not have an entry for Rising. Might be worth a quick remedy this week, eh? :)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
They did have a review, I remember seeing it becasue it was given an inexplicably low four stars. Maybe they're remedying that.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I read the review the other day when he died, they also used it on Spotify. Now spotify is using the wikipedia entry, i noticed that last night.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to heaven & hell right now. "die young" is the shit.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
so yeah, don't have much to add to this one that hasn't already been said. tons of classic tunes ("neon knights," "children of the sea," "heaven and hell," and "die young" are my faves), dio plays off the band perfectly and really shines on the epics ("LOOK OUT!!"), and the band sounds rejuvenated. great record.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
also listened to rising twice yesterday. the whole album is solid but "stargazer" is so incredible that the rest of the album pales a bit in comparison.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
but man, "stargazer" is such a great track. just builds and builds and builds....
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"now look, look, look, look, look at this tower of stoooooone!"
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
one of the best tracks ever
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Search youtube for "Ronnie James Dio - Brutally Honest Tour Bus Interview 1994" (all 4 parts) where he goes through nearly all his records starting from Elf. Really surprised how he dismissed "Rising", especially side 2. He also thought Mob Rules was underrated. I can at least agree with him there.
― drench, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to holy diver right now...damn this album is rock solid, not a dud
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i gave it a spin this morning for the first time in ages. not really my thing but it seems like they nailed exactly what they were going for and every song has at least something to recommend it beyond just "enjoy dio's vocals"
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8687002.stm
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
heaven and hell didn't really rock my world but you were right about "children of the sea" in the other thread, pfunk--that's a cool song.
rainbow is tacky fun. i am jamming "stargazer" right now and loving the strings.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Most prefer Neon Knights but Children Of The Sea is my fave on that album.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Stargazer is awesome isnt it? I've been caning it all week since I first heard it. I shoulda heard that album years ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Children of the Sea FTW!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Search youtube for "Ronnie James Dio - Brutally Honest Tour Bus Interview 1994" (all 4 parts) where he goes through nearly all his records starting from Elf.
Thanks for that, it's an amazing interview. A favourite part is where he accidentally says Ozzy's name and says exasperatedly, "I keep mentioning that jerk-off."
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Did ozzy slag dio off a lot when dio joined sabbath?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm still up for picking 3 somewhere when I get back home (and have listened to the 9 I missed). 7/6 slot for me?
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
24/5 EZ Snappin31/5 Nate Carson?7/6 SiegbranIm sure Mordy will be fine with that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link
oh wait
24/5 Alan N31/5 EZ Snappin7/6 Nate Carson14/6 Siegbran
Unless you all swap.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Nate & I are swapping.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 20 May 2010 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link
24/5 Alan N31/5 Nate Carson7/6 EZ Snappin14/6 Siegbran
I bagsy another shot sometime once everyones had a turn that wants one.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link
j0hn d likes discussion so Im a bit disappointed he's not taking part when he has the time.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link
plus I'd like to see his album picks!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
prob should go on the metal thread and ask john, begrand, some of those other guys to do a week for us
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd like a week sometime in july when my life settles down a bit. i can remind u closer to the date pfunk.
its mordy to ask! I'm just helping him out so it runs smoothly when peoplw know its their turn. and reposting the "rota" every now and again to keep in on the page.but i'll ask on the metal thread if anyone wants a go, good idea!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link
done. (will probably either be ignored or it will be posts that listening clubs are pointless but oh well)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I gotta be honest with you and I know some of you will find this precious or bigheaded ok but metal thread people are my people so I'm gonna shoot straight. part of the reason I haven't joined in is that lately whenever I say something on ilx that strikes somebody as quotable, people have been tweeting & retweeting it under my name-name. that skeeves me out. I'm here to hang out with buds, not Speak, O Very-Mildly-Known Dude, For The Record. So if I pick albums, lurker-nerds will be all "Here Are The Three Albums Underrated Aerosmith Recommends!" and I will be bummed. this is partly why I keep asking people, with partial success, to call me aerosmith. I don't wanna have a whole argument about whether I should be skeeved or not about ppl tweeting my posts but I'm just saying, that is why I'm holding back on the listening club metal thread.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
people can be arseholes. aerosmithy (im gonna call you aerosmithy or smithy until you join in) you should join in and lurkers stop doing shit to join him, he's here to chat with friends, dont tweet him or anyone else!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know what trick people are using to identify who's posting under what pseudonym this week, but it took me a while to even figure out who "aerosmith" was - finally something in your prose style clicked, though.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i guessed only because he was on the boxing thread
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link