I don't know. According to my iPod I listened to Ting Tings' Great DJ 22 times and I'm aware this band kind of suck. I see the same thing in Sleigh Bells.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
You must've liked the Ting Ting's jam enough that you listened to it twenty-two times, so your awareness that "this band kind of suck[s]" seems to be more of an awareness that other people think it sucks than your actively thinking the music is bad.
― ksh, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Man, cut the shrink talk. I just don't think Ting Ting is a great band
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm more interested in being a third type of listener myself: the person who can get caught up in "fun, silly music" and "some nuanced indie rock album"--or "some nuanced" any kind of album. Limiting yourself to enjoying one type of record, or privileging one type of record exclusively over all others, is totally boring to me. Not that that's what anyone is calling for here, and not that I don't have many blindspots or proclivities to listen to certain types of music over others.
― ksh, Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:34 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
ya i was just responding to people who were all "ugh fad, this won't even be on the pitchfork end of year list," but ilxors are generally pretty cool in this regard. it's a bias you hear in a lot of criticism and discussion that i think is some bullshit, people devaluing immediacy over what i guess they think is maturity and restraint.
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
people devaluing immediacy over what i guess they think is maturity and restraint.
totally w/ you that this isn't a great attitude to have
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
a song like 'Rill Rill' would probably sound twee if you tear down all the red levels.
yeah, to my ears "Ring Ring" is kind of a modernized version of what Adventures in Stereo (the Primal Scream spinoff group) were doing in 1997, viz. layered, girly vocals & twee lyrics over samples of '60s-'70s pop songs. to be fair I don't get that impression from any other Sleigh Bells songs, and stuff like "Crown on the Ground" doesn't register with me as indiepop at all.
― not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
agreed x2, but the opposite attitude isn't much more defensible, i.e. devaluing a record because it's earnest and mature and some list somewhere called it "timeless," and refusing to engage critically with some other record because it makes you smile and bob your head today, in the here and now, man, and who gives a SHIT what it sounds like in six months.
the best attitude is to realize that a lot of great, fun music lacks replay value, and a lot of great, introspective music lacks immediacy. if a record gets low marks in one of the many categories on your music critic checklist, that doesn't mean it can't be pretty awesome.
― not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
the best attitude is to realize that a lot of great, fun music lacks replay value, and a lot of great, introspective music lacks immediacy.
OTM
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
and, sometimes it's the opposite way around too, of course
yeah, I mean if all you ever listen to is sullen singer-songwriter stuff, then the new Nick Drake album might rock your world the first time you hear it, whereas Weird Al's Poodle Hat could be a slow-burner that takes 50 listens and countless hours of poring over the lyrics sheet to reveal its wonders. it's a strange world.
― not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the new Nick Drake album
O_O
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
oops, I revealed too much. just...forget it for now.
― not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey are you guys talking about "Night Ripper" now?
― Evan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
is that a song about the Better Marriage Blanket or something?? O___O
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Girl Talk.
― Evan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― ksh, Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
haha
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 16 May 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
night ripper still bangs
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 16 May 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
still don't think i've listened to it. liked Feed The Animals the one time i heard it
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a lot better
― samosa gibreel, Sunday, 16 May 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
#2 album on iTunes right now, right after the new National record
― ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
btw: http://tinyurl.com/297jw7s
― ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link
What's up with albums from dudes formerly in hardcore/screamo bands taking a ride on the Pfork disco stick lately? Dude quits Poison the Well, forms Sleigh Bells with kindergarten teacher = Best New Music. Dude quits American Nightmare/Give Up the Ghost, forms Cold Cave with noize dude and chick from Xiu Xiu = also highly regarded. Are there other examples of this recently?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor)
wow, weird observation, but OTM nonetheless. i have another one to add: guitarist recently quits daughters, joins up with a little band called fang island. BNM on pfork as well.
― borntohula, Monday, 17 May 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought you must have meant on the iTunes "indie' subcategory, but no, you are right. I think this kind of reflects the disparity between people who buy albums via iTunes versus people who buy singles via iTunes. The two charts are SO different.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 May 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/3654-thunder-lightning-strike.jpg
― Tape Store, Monday, 17 May 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link
totally
― what a horribly formed "groke" (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
that album's great though
Pretty good! It can get wearing after a while, but it sounds amazing in short bursts. It's great when a track comes up on shuffle, they sound exhilarating then."Rill Rill" is my least favourite track by far, I prefer it when they really blow out, like on "Straight A's".
Oh, and "Rachel" sounds like Lush remixed by 2 Unlimited.
― DavidM, Thursday, 27 May 2010 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Listened to Treats for the first time yesterday - it made me feel old.
― seandalai, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link
shit makes me feel old, and i'm only 22.
― jonathan - stl, Friday, 28 May 2010 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link
It makes me feel young and alive if anything tbh
― DavidM, Friday, 28 May 2010 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Which Funkadelic song they 'sample' in 'Rill Rill'?
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 28 May 2010 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrOdcnFbAY
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 28 May 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, 'Rill Rill' is almost like Soup Dragons doing I'm Free
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 28 May 2010 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link
This is growing on me. A lot.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty damn tedious listening, but ill keep on trying
― a cooler full of courage and panache (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
have a heart
― ksh, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Hunt3r you give up on cycling but still trying to listen to sleigh bells? wtf
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
embrace the change, thats me
― a cooler full of courage and panache (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
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― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP
― ksh, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
This feels like the aural equivalent of being kicked repeatedly in the face by a cute smiley videogame character, annoying but oddly fun all the same.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Diplo + AC/DC + Ting Tings
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Remember when this record was a big deal? \(^o^)/
― ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lovin u more every day, ksh
― ლ support our troops ლ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 June 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha. Yeah. Not jamming it 24/7 as much but I still dig it. In part, I think it's 'cause we've had a rainy week or two up here, but the sun is back and so are the riffs.
Still, this might be the first album that people are officially 'over' by the time it gets a physical release.
― Alex in Montreal, Monday, 7 June 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4884/bloggers.jpg
― ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
remember zings?
― the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i really dislike the word "treats"
― For Nick Lachey, Forever Ago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
a word much beloved of dogs
― the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link