The thing I like *bestest* about both bands are Cobbett's riffs off course, but that goes without saying really. I think the reason I was disappointed with Ape Uprising is the absence of Cobbett, though I'm not really sure how much he contributed to the songwriting/riffs on the earlier stuff; anyone?
― Thijs, Saturday, 15 May 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh and Nate, the two YOB shows at Roadburn got a lot of good coverage in in the mainstream-ish/non-metal press over here in Holland, they were almost unanimously singled out as THE highlight of the festival. And deservedly so! I really had to struggle to keep my composure when they played "The Lie that is Sin" in the second set, to put it mildly ;) I was also amazed at the number of dudes who came up to me at Neurotic Deathfest (which was two weeks later at the same venue) and started going on and on about how awesome YOB was at Roadburn (I was wearing the YOB shirt I bought from you). This was the hardcore knuckledragging death metal crowd, so that's saying something, right?
― Thijs, Saturday, 15 May 2010 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link
before i go to bed and before anyone tears me a new one, "stoner doom by the numbers" is, yeah, a fucking retarded way to describe ufomammut. they're more psychedelic than either of those things and definitely have their own sound. but i was listening to them at a time when i was listening to a LOT of roughly similar stuff - heavy psych that did everything right, but wound up feeling empty & redundant to me. thinking here of earthless, mammatus, colour haze, etc. probably has more to do with my oversaturation in the genre than the merits of the band(s).
― contenderizer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost - Hey Thijs, that's so great to hear. Not too surprising (I'm actually starting to get used to how much YOB steals shows and festivals). But it's really awesome anyway.
Hope to be there next year with my own band! :)
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Nate please tell mike to bring Yob to Glasgow!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
So Alan N to post his anytime after midnight UK time then 24/5 EZ Snappin31/5 Nate Carson?
Or do we just do a Rainbow/Sabbath/Dio trio of picks and Alan goes next week , EZ ,Nate after that?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I do feel it should be Rainbow/Sabbath/Dio regardless anyway.
Can we all agree on which Rainbow/Sabbath/Dio albums?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Rising, Heaven and Hell, Holy Diver.
― Thijs, Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Sounds good, i know alan probably would have picked them anyway, but i think he should still get another go next week if he wants. Noone could object to this week being Dio Week.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
^ yes
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
So who wants to post the albums then? I can help them with Spotify links.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
since we know the albums you could just do it pfunk
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
If im not stepping on alan's shoes and noone else minds, then since i have access to spotify for links then i guess i could. It does seem fitting to do it right now while ppl are awake and will want to listen. Best way of paying tribute is to listen to the music. I'm jamming Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell already.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
gimme 10 mins to sort it out then
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
In memorial of Ronnie James Dio (July 10 ,1942- May 16, 2010)http://www.positech.co.uk/blog/dio.jpg
Mordy's Metal Listening Club Volume #5: - Rainbow , Black Sabbath & DIO
#1Rainbow - Risinghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Wq91zQyc2yg/SVpZi8ZeEUI/AAAAAAAABtw/gJOm2lokeqI/s400/Rainbow+-+Rising.jpgSpotify Link
#2Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hellhttp://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/0/4/504.jpgSpotify Link
#3DIO - Holy Diverhttp://www.alternative-zine.com/images2/Dio/Dio_Holy_Diver.jpgSpotify Link
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
If everything is being bumped a week, can I go after Nate? I'm going to be in Portland 31/5 and be away from the computer. Or, if I can arrange to meet Nate there, he can post my picks for me.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think anyone will mind if you swap weeks with Nate.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SedQcg-65a8
Amazing track
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
As good as anything Deep Purple , Black Sabbath or Led Zep made imo
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Rising remains one of the most explosive albums to come out of metal's second wave in the mid to late-70s. I was cranking it today...man, does it ever hold up.
I think "Stargazer" is Dio's greatest moment on record.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 17 May 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Agreed, stupendous stuff.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link
"stargazer" is so, so good.
and no worries pfunk, nobody rational could possibly object to dio week.
...but I was going to pick mob rules and the last in line. ;-)
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
That was what Jeff wanted! lol
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
special dio tribute week bonus albums:
bonus pick #1black sabbath - mob ruleshttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B001EOOQF6.jpg
bonus pick #2dio - the last in linehttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002L61.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna listen to so much dio this week.
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Might as well throw in this, too:
bonus pick #3Rainbow - Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbowhttp://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/0f/de/6109810ae7a0dcd3b6a2b110.L.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
cool, I've never listened to that one before. (prob bc of the cover.)
― original bgm, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Never listened to Rainbow before but I quite enjoyed Rising. Cool proggy organ break on "A Light in the Black".
― Sundar, Monday, 17 May 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
It's been a Dio monday, and definitely a lot of sad thoughts mixed with the joy of hearing these great records.
I like the first Rainbow record more than Rising, though "Stargazer" is by far the best thing Dio did with Blackmore. I think the first is a bit more organic sounding - Elf had been together for a fairly long time, and that rapport just isn't there on Rising, even if the tunes are stronger overall. The keyboard solo on "A Light In The Black" is just -- I don't have the words, because horrible and cheesy and hackle-raising just don't cut it.
Heaven and Hell is pretty great all the way through, though the obvious highlights of "Neon Knights" and the title track are way past pretty great and live in the realm of the majestic. Adrien posted a Rollins rant about Dio on twitter this morning where Rollins goes off on the evil woman trope that is on every Dio record; of course, we get "Evil Lady" and "Walk Away" on this one. But we also get one of my favorite Dio lines "It's a long way to nowhere, and I'm leaving very soon. On the way we pass so close to the back side of the moon." Not the dark side or the far side, but the back side of the moon. Ever since I was little this has made me titter.
Holy Diver. I'll probably be the only one, but this is my favorite of the three. "Stand Up and Shout" was what I wanted from metal when I first heard it back in '84, and it stil smokes. The title track is a justifiable classic, and his vocal phrasing is great - "jump, jump -- jump on the tiger". What is with the baaing sheep sound dubbed over the word hell in "Don't Talk To Strangers"? Anyone? It's not just the Satan=goat thing, right? The vocal phrasing in the slow intro of "Invisible" reminds me of Neil Young's "Cortez the Killer" - you can't quite sing one to the other, but it's close. "Rainbow in the Dark" may have the cheesiest keyboard this side of the aforementioned "A Light in the Black", but here works. Love the video with him on the rooftops making faces at a camera on a crane.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I've read a lot about metal and Dio, but I can't recall seeing an interview where the writer got him to go into detail about what the appeal of the rainbow was. That image pops up in practically everything he's done since 1975, at least every major work.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
never got into Dio, but now's a good time to start. just finished listening to rising and it's damn good! i always hate it when i start appreciating someone's music just as they've passed.
― borntohula, Monday, 17 May 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost - Of course I'll be happy to go next week EZ Snappin. No worries.
I played 3 hours of Dio (Rainbow through Heaven + Hell) at my Dj gig last night. The guy has so many great songs!
1) Rising - "Stargazer" has to be the ultimate Dio track. So epic and glorious. I first heard it while on tour in Denver, staying in a squat on a snowy night. Dio had always been there, but I was an avowed Ozzy fan for a long, long time before I finally succumbed. This song and album helped me break the chains.
2) Heaven & Hell - The best non-Ozzy Sabbath record, period. "Children of the Sea" is one of my favorite songs by any band. Plus the title track (which Solitude Aeturnus nails pretty well too) is so heavy. It's Bill Ward's last stand, even if they somehow "drug" him back for Born Again.
3) Holy Diver - This was the only Dio record I owned as a younger man, and now it's the most critical omission from my collection. No idea what happened to it, but I recall purposefully asking the clerk to make me a $6.66 price tag to put on the cover. I'm afraid I once thought "Rainbow in the Dark" was by far the best song on this album. And I do stand by that song (as I'm a big lover of synthesizer, so no problems there). But clearly the title track is a monster and the playing and the production and that signature bass sound; all top notch.
I do wish that The Devil You Know was being discussed here. That really was my favorite album of 2009 (check my Pazz N Jop poll if you think I'm being revisionist). It's just the most amazing set of workhorse doom metal songs with the fully matured Dio voice, weathered, world-weary, but still incredibly vital. Seeing the band live last year was a big deal for me. D.I.O.R.I.P.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 17 May 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree; I really love The Devil You Know, as my AMG review makes clear.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 17 May 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I wish I had heard that rainbow album years ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Phil - Those 4 stars are well-deserved.
Herman - It's never too late! Took me a long time too.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
BTW Phil, AMG seems to not have an entry for Rising. Might be worth a quick remedy this week, eh? :)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
They did have a review, I remember seeing it becasue it was given an inexplicably low four stars. Maybe they're remedying that.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I read the review the other day when he died, they also used it on Spotify. Now spotify is using the wikipedia entry, i noticed that last night.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to heaven & hell right now. "die young" is the shit.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
so yeah, don't have much to add to this one that hasn't already been said. tons of classic tunes ("neon knights," "children of the sea," "heaven and hell," and "die young" are my faves), dio plays off the band perfectly and really shines on the epics ("LOOK OUT!!"), and the band sounds rejuvenated. great record.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
also listened to rising twice yesterday. the whole album is solid but "stargazer" is so incredible that the rest of the album pales a bit in comparison.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
but man, "stargazer" is such a great track. just builds and builds and builds....
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"now look, look, look, look, look at this tower of stoooooone!"
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
one of the best tracks ever
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Search youtube for "Ronnie James Dio - Brutally Honest Tour Bus Interview 1994" (all 4 parts) where he goes through nearly all his records starting from Elf. Really surprised how he dismissed "Rising", especially side 2. He also thought Mob Rules was underrated. I can at least agree with him there.
― drench, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to holy diver right now...damn this album is rock solid, not a dud
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i gave it a spin this morning for the first time in ages. not really my thing but it seems like they nailed exactly what they were going for and every song has at least something to recommend it beyond just "enjoy dio's vocals"
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8687002.stm
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
heaven and hell didn't really rock my world but you were right about "children of the sea" in the other thread, pfunk--that's a cool song.
rainbow is tacky fun. i am jamming "stargazer" right now and loving the strings.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link