Sleigh Bells: Treats

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Nah, it's gonna be a bit lower for LCD this time.

8.6 / BNM

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Pitchfork basically lauding Sleigh Bells for being the anti-chillwave:

When so much music seems designed to evoke the mood and vibe of a specific era, either through direct imitation or playing with the memories of the music's context, Sleigh Bells deftly avoid any single pigeonhole.

like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Friday, 14 May 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

did i call that or did i call it?

part of the reason i like this is bc i keep thinking of a LOT of things while i listen to it. it's not as pigeon-holed as it could have easily been.

― i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:29 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Friday, 14 May 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

So when pitchfork confirms something it officially becomes fact?

Evan, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

^ booming post imo

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think that's what surm meant

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

people come up w/ all these theories & opinions, but when P4k confirms it shit goes metaphysical & you cannot refute the truths irrefutably expounded upon in impeccable HTML before your eyes

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

youa re the river flow

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

have a heart have a heart

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Sleigh Lolz

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it just me or does Pitchfork shit out 8+ ratings every other day now? Sleigh Bells has an interesting concept and OK execution but Schreiber et al are too smart to actually believe it's album of the year.

I'll agree that it doesn't deserve an 8+/BNM (and that they've given out quite a few lately), but I don't think that it necessarily means much about being 'album of the year.' I mean, hell, in that terrible conclusion Richardson even admits that it might not "sustain itself over the long haul" and could be one of those high-scoring BNM albums that isn't even mentioned at the end of the year.

thistle supporter (mcoll), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Really don't care for the this album. It's quite loud and "wonder what your boyfriend thinks about your braces" is such an annoying lyric it makes me want to stop the music by pouring coke on my laptop.

I say we pretend the last month of talking about sleigh bells never happened and we just go back to talking about Vampire Weekend and class signifiers or James Murphy's record collection. start over.

Cunga, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to see something get a 9.0 and not Best New Music. "This record is incredible, but we don't recommend it."

There's a hypothetical kind of record this would make sense for -- something that's amazing at what it does, but somehow so specific/niche/inaccessible that you wouldn't recommend it to people in general. "This will be super-awesome to certain people, but don't worry if you're not one of them."

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

you aret he river flow

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

h4v3 4 h34rt h4ve 4 h34rt

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

What's up with albums from dudes formerly in hardcore/screamo bands taking a ride on the Pfork disco stick lately? Dude quits Poison the Well, forms Sleigh Bells with kindergarten teacher = Best New Music. Dude quits American Nightmare/Give Up the Ghost, forms Cold Cave with noize dude and chick from Xiu Xiu = also highly regarded. Are there other examples of this recently?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a band named Cold Cave? Another great band name.

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Not to be confused with the band Cold, or the band Cave.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Cold, creators of the song hall of fame shoe-in "Stupid Girl"

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Loved the reindeer jpeg the first time, even maybe second time, but unless we've decided to imagebomb this thread can we curtail it, k$ha?

Mordy, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Cold, creators of the song hall of fame shoe-in "Stupid Girl"

I prefer to think of Cold as "Stupid Band."

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Mordy: sure thing dude.

my baby's got the bans (ksh), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

to ppl who are complaining about how this album will grate after repeated exposure/not end up on eoy lists, can i just say i am way more interested in a record that blows people away on first listen and is so brash and outspoken its novelty wears off than some nuanced indie rock album with really layered production or whatever. getting caught up in exciting fun silly music is a good look, would rather not be the guy scoffing and listening to the national when i could be listening to sleigh bells.

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

can i just say i am way more interested in a record that blows people away on first listen and is so brash and outspoken its novelty wears off than some nuanced indie rock album with really layered production or whatever

sincerely interested in why you feel this way. could you expand on this, samosa?

ksh, Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

less pretentious

i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

not that i feel that way i'm just sayin

i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

umm i just think there's a lot to making novel, head-turning music that people sometimes don't feel is legitimate but imo totally is, primary aesthetic experience and that sort of thing. if the first few times listening through an album are incredible, to me that is super valuable. as much if not more as if on your 15th listen you are still discovering new things and your enjoyment of the songs evolves.

i like albums that grow on you, too, but not as much tbh and i don't have that experience that often anymore.

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I HATE THIS GODDADMN BAND

kelpolaris, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

umm i just think there's a lot to making novel, head-turning music that people sometimes don't feel is legitimate but imo totally is, primary aesthetic experience and that sort of thing. if the first few times listening through an album are incredible, to me that is super valuable.

― samosa gibreel

i like this idea, but it's hard not to feel a little burned/annoyed by albums that wear out their appeal quickly. i mean, at the time, i really loved that 1st CSS on sub pop, but i don't know that i'll ever need to hear it again. and therefore, though i still think of it fondly, it's hard for me to call it great record from the present vantage.

contenderizer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Its OK to just enjoy it now than.

Evan, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i sympathize with that feeling, i feel like that sort of reevaluatino inevitable with a lot of music. hindsight is maybe a bit overrated anyways, esp in worlds where people continue talking and making ordered lists of albums on forums, sometimes i have to remind myself to get in the moment and not give a shit about any of that stuff and just kick it.

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

that would work if this was a good album but its not.

Bee OK, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

definitely loving sleigh bells in the here and now. kinda being careful not to overplay it though, cuz it seems like something that'll fade fast...

contenderizer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I HATE THIS GODDADMN BAND

HI DRUNKY U R MISSPELLING UR WORDS 2 US

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 15 May 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Definitely agree with contenderizer w/r/t "being careful not to overplay it." This is definitely a record that I could see myself just listening to again and again so much that I'll buy it, shelve it, and pick it up very rarely after that. If there's one thing to be said about albums that reveal themselves after multiple listens, it's that these records are often ones that can be played again and again, but even there I'll reach this thing where after, say, between forty and seventy listens -- and yes, I've probably listened to some records that many times -- I'll almost never want to hear it again. I've heard, like, Wilco's A ghost is born so much that, even though I love that record, I seldom desire it.

Still, I wouldn't want to live in a world without both immediate, "this fucking rules" kind of records and "reveals itself over time" sort of records too.

ksh, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Also:

getting caught up in exciting fun silly music is a good look, would rather not be the guy scoffing and listening to the national when i could be listening to sleigh bells.

I agree with the first part of this, and I'm not a fan of the second type of person, but I'm more interested in being a third type of listener myself: the person who can get caught up in "fun, silly music" and "some nuanced indie rock album"--or "some nuanced" any kind of album. Limiting yourself to enjoying one type of record, or privileging one type of record exclusively over all others, is totally boring to me. Not that that's what anyone is calling for here, and not that I don't have many blindspots or proclivities to listen to certain types of music over others.

ksh, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I find I enjoy being a music listener most, I'm saying, when I'm more open than closed as a listener, within certain boundaries.

ksh, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know. According to my iPod I listened to Ting Tings' Great DJ 22 times and I'm aware this band kind of suck. I see the same thing in Sleigh Bells.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

You must've liked the Ting Ting's jam enough that you listened to it twenty-two times, so your awareness that "this band kind of suck[s]" seems to be more of an awareness that other people think it sucks than your actively thinking the music is bad.

ksh, Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, cut the shrink talk. I just don't think Ting Ting is a great band

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm more interested in being a third type of listener myself: the person who can get caught up in "fun, silly music" and "some nuanced indie rock album"--or "some nuanced" any kind of album. Limiting yourself to enjoying one type of record, or privileging one type of record exclusively over all others, is totally boring to me. Not that that's what anyone is calling for here, and not that I don't have many blindspots or proclivities to listen to certain types of music over others.

― ksh, Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:34 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya i was just responding to people who were all "ugh fad, this won't even be on the pitchfork end of year list," but ilxors are generally pretty cool in this regard. it's a bias you hear in a lot of criticism and discussion that i think is some bullshit, people devaluing immediacy over what i guess they think is maturity and restraint.

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

people devaluing immediacy over what i guess they think is maturity and restraint.

totally w/ you that this isn't a great attitude to have

ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

a song like 'Rill Rill' would probably sound twee if you tear down all the red levels.

yeah, to my ears "Ring Ring" is kind of a modernized version of what Adventures in Stereo (the Primal Scream spinoff group) were doing in 1997, viz. layered, girly vocals & twee lyrics over samples of '60s-'70s pop songs. to be fair I don't get that impression from any other Sleigh Bells songs, and stuff like "Crown on the Ground" doesn't register with me as indiepop at all.

not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

agreed x2, but the opposite attitude isn't much more defensible, i.e. devaluing a record because it's earnest and mature and some list somewhere called it "timeless," and refusing to engage critically with some other record because it makes you smile and bob your head today, in the here and now, man, and who gives a SHIT what it sounds like in six months.

the best attitude is to realize that a lot of great, fun music lacks replay value, and a lot of great, introspective music lacks immediacy. if a record gets low marks in one of the many categories on your music critic checklist, that doesn't mean it can't be pretty awesome.

not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

the best attitude is to realize that a lot of great, fun music lacks replay value, and a lot of great, introspective music lacks immediacy.

OTM

ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

and, sometimes it's the opposite way around too, of course

ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I mean if all you ever listen to is sullen singer-songwriter stuff, then the new Nick Drake album might rock your world the first time you hear it, whereas Weird Al's Poodle Hat could be a slow-burner that takes 50 listens and countless hours of poring over the lyrics sheet to reveal its wonders. it's a strange world.

not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

the new Nick Drake album

O_O

ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link


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