Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me (RIP blogs)

i just think going there in a public forum makes you seem petty and renders your opinions in general less valuable

this is OTM tho

tbf we are talking about the same person who described a beer as tasting like unicorn tears right?

I'm not surprised that she dismisses this stuff, more surprised that she felt it necessary to voice this opinion.

I hear that. but gaga sux and I would say somethin like that if someone asked.

I farted yesterday and the room smelled for like an hour

it means it sounds like the music you hear at a rave

Fair enough, but by saying Gaga's music is "just . . . glow sticks," you're being dismissive of her work without actually engaging with it at all, which is boring and says more about your own prejudices than the music itself.

It's not too far off from the people who call her own stuff "just some crazy lady singing pseudo-poetically about unicorns & making weird facial expressions while playing polyrhythms on a pedal harp."

article says she's a big fan of jay-z and kanye, so she isn't hating on all pop music

xpost -- Rolls off the tip of the tongue, that comment.

yea i totally agree with you ksh.

i fully support this and want more musicians to call each other out

esp. if it ends up in a confrontation decided by dance-off

GUY FROM WAVVES DOESN'T CARE FOR YOUNG MONEY

lololol

This whole thing is hilarious on so many levels.

lol that Joanna is somehow more grown-up music than Lady Gaga btw

i inevitably think comments like this sound like a young girl complaining about her older sister who gets all the attention

lol that Joanna is somehow more grown-up music than Lady Gaga btw

? did anyone actually say this?

yes

I don't understand this pop music love bullshit

old men enjoy pretending they're teenage girls

weirdly you were the one who said it

Also, here:

My problem isn't actually with Lady Gaga. But there's not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. [. . .]And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she's Brecht or something.

Yeah, part of her problem is with certain people's reception of Gaga's image and music, but it's also pretty clear her problem is also with Lady Gaga herself, or at least how Gaga thinks of her own image and music.

postin w/ mordy and ilxor

I don't understand this pop music love bullshit

old men enjoy pretending they're teenage girls

um, this statement makes no reference to Joanna Newsom

FYI

(I don't give two shits for the music of anyone involved in this "dispute", as I've said already)

i think that a lot of ppl who are pop fans in gen. felt like this abt gaga (including ppl who have come around) its pretty dumb to go complaining to p4k about the top forty to me, but i mean the misalignment btween rhetoric and actual music in terms of artistic aspirations has never exactly gone away w/ gaga even if its not something im that pushed abt anymore.

Another reason I bristle at that quote is because I don't see why Lady Gaga shouldn't be able to talk about her music "in the third person, like she's Brecht or something." It's part of her persona! She's a pop star! I feel like part of Newsom's problem with Gaga is that she thinks Gaga thinks of herself as a "real artist" instead of "just a pop star," while Newsom thinks Gaga clearly belongs in the latter category. The part that's really irritating is that it's also pretty evident Newsom places herself in the former category.

"i'm an artist, you're arty spice"

its pretty dumb to go complaining to p4k about the top forty to me

For what it's worth, P4k was just quoting an interview w/ her that was published in the Guardian.

whatever, i don't know that the joanna newsom thread needs to be contaminated with another discussion on lady gaga's artistry, though

but yea, the indie-kid rags on top-40 thing definitely doesn't win anybody brownie points for intelligence

I am far more interested in Newsom's reaction to Gaga here than in whether or not Gaga deserves to be called "an artist."

right, that's what i thought, i'm just trying to keep it that way :)

Newsom dissing Lady Gaga strikes me a lot like the theoryheads in my department dissing the theater/dance people for not being theoretical/intellectual enough. Like, it's more cliquey than anything about indie v. pop or anything like that. Or maybe it's just success jealousy. It's hard for me to take Newsom's claim seriously that she's a real artist and Lady Gaga isn't, tho. They're both basically pop artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS58_ZeLX1g&feature=related

I find it hard to believe that there isn't any jealousy at work here.

elvin harpist wants more fans than she inexplicably already has. story at 11

my 60-something boss weighed in on gaga this morning: "six hits from one double album...and Alejandro just released. The only thing that can stop her is a tragic death."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

i told him a tragic death would only make her stronger

i love that he knew the specs

RIP BLOGS ALERT!!!

Joanna Newsom Is Done Reading Blogs

http://stereogum.com/368071/joanna-newsom-is-done-reading-blogs/

This is the infinite thread, it can never be stopped. You will be reading this when you're 80.

only dr. seuss and my little pony picture books for joanna from now on.

It's not too far off from the people who call her own stuff "just some crazy lady singing pseudo-poetically about unicorns & making weird facial expressions while playing polyrhythms on a pedal harp."

you thought you could put this one past me didn't you? nice try

It's not too far off from the people who call her own stuff "just some crazy lady singing pseudo-poetically about unicorns & making weird facial expressions while playing polyrhythms on a pedal harp. removing cats from her hair and throwing them into the audience"

godawful lawlessness I tell you

Aerosmith, believe me, I was in the front row at her last Boston show, and she had a Macbook on stage and read aloud a negative statement not unlike the one I posted above, taken directly from an indie blog with a five person readership's comments box that was linked to from a comment in a Tapes n' Tapes video on YouTube. Needless to say, I was in the front row that night, and I took a particularly plump cat straight to the nose, but to her credit she threw it with such vigor that the emergency room doctor and I were nothing less than impressed, and though I am now living on the street--due to mounting medical bills from other cat-related injuries sustained at Newsom shows across the United States of America--and posting to ILM from a stolen iPhone, I still hold no ill will towards her in my heart.

she had a Macbook on stage and read aloud a negative statement not unlike the one I posted above,

wait is this part true

I missed her Boston show, and have never seen her live, so one can only assume it is true.

“When I was playing new songs, people would refer to then by these titles that I hadn’t referred to them by, and they would do it real authoritatively, like super know-it-all,” she says. “It really annoyed me.”

1) These 'people' you speak of quite literally support your cunty immature ass with their excitement for your music.

2) You didn't even change the titles of the songs, crazy person.

srsly she talks about Gaga being self-serious but her attitude & general weirdness lately only tells me she really is just an annoying, affected hipster girl who'll annoy others by solely talking about herself at a party. or something.

1) These 'people' you speak of quite literally support [you] with their excitement for your music.

lol, otm