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Like Dub, i get the feeling Dubstep would sound best on stupidly large speakers in the street with the bass reverberating of buildings..

So does anyone know if there's going to be any sound systems playing Dubstep at notting hill carnival this year?

― jk_ (jk@gabba), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

That's an interesting one... Dubstep on a heavy system works very very well indeed, the empty spaces consumed with juddering bass-mass... I hope Digital Mystiks are on this idea of some torn-bassbin action come carnival time...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

not carnival but there's some festival action this year @ Bestival

Skream
Appleblim & Shackleton
Digital Mystikz & Sgt Pokes
Kode 9
Various Production

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've come to the final conclusion that "Southern Comfort" is the only track on this record that I really like. :(

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think that's a tad harsh, there's at least two worthwhile tracks!

― jimnaseum - music to make you staga (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

"You Hurt Me" perchance?

Yeah that break is fine, but that's about it. I don't dis-like the rest of it, it's just kind of there.

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

"You Hurt Me" perchance?

Aye.

― jimnaseum - music to make you staga (jimnaseum), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm not surprised people want broken beat music that's empty, vast, emotional and dubby.

but compare burial's album to something like phoenicia's "brownout" and you'll see that burial is very, very subpar.

― JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 22 July 2006 02:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

>Actually the better reason to be a bit sceptical about the basic >channel connection is that it's not particularly new - I'm not sure how >Burial is any more basic channel than Horsepower Productions already >were on stuff like "Gorgon Sound".

-- Tim Finney, July 21st, 2006.

eh, crackle!

― Brian Best (ukb), Saturday, 22 July 2006 09:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Horsepower and El-b et al were all pretty crisp and hi-fi, there was no sense of that obfuscating reverb'n'crackle aesthetic was there?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 22 July 2006 13:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

For sheer atmosphere alone, I fail to see how anyone could not be impressed with this album. It reminds me at times of some of my favourite moments by David Sylvian, like bits of the first Massive Attack album got together with that...

Fandango, regardless of your opinion on Burial, I really think you should hear SAW II. I'm tempted to say everyone should hear SAW II, but I do realize that's probably stretching it.

― Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Sunday, 23 July 2006 11:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think I should too! Some things just manage to slip by ...

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 23 July 2006 13:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

The notion of "Southern Comfort" being the only good track on there is kinda weird to me. Such a boring beat!

I would put all the vocal tracks ahead of it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was actually listening to one of horsepower's vocal tracks today (not "one u need," the other one) and they have such an odd bass sound. it's not oozy or dread like modern dubstep. it's, like someone said above, very clean and strobing...kind of this very clean, rounded pulse that throbs throughout.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

What's the other one Jess? Was it one of the Turn-U-On tracks?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

gah maybe "electro bass"? (did that have vox? this is where making mix cds with no tracklisting bites you in the ass.) the vocal element is quite minimal really. it might be a dub.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 00:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

I was saying on Dissensus the other day that someone really needs to compile and release all the Ghost, Shelflife and Turn-U-On tracks - now that would leave the Burial album for dead.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

that whole era is so undocumented/collected. i probably have most of them spread across a dozen cd-r's, but such an amazing moment (what...18, 24 months tops?) that's practically forgotten already!

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Givin' Up On Love" has female vox, I think. There were only two Turn U On releases, right?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Isn't that "One You Need" though? Or maybe I'm getting confused. Either way it's brilliant.

Oris Jay's "Brand Nu Flava" had a similar sick-with-love vibe. (sigh) so many of those producers went crap!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

see, i know fuck all about grime and dubstep and would probably have ignored this. but what with y'all wittering about this and the reference points sounding good, i bought it. and, halfway through the first listen, it's pretty damn immense. so hey, thank you ILM.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 July 2006 07:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Haha! Good to know you're on board, grimly. I was so close to emailing you about this one but I guess I wasn't sure if you'd appreciate it or not.

― Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Hm. Well it's all right, I guess.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

I feel like there's way more Monolake in this than Basic Channel or Pole somehow...

― ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 13:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

or maybe not :/ this one track "Invisible" off Polygon Cities was reminding me of his sound a bit, it's sequenced in a slightly off-the-beat garage-ish way.

― ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Apparently, there's a new Burial album on the way in the first half of 2007 (source: hyperdub boss Kode9 on Belgium's Studio Brussel radio station last week).

Also: check this out: Burial's remix of Jamie Woon's Wayfaring Stranger (fourth track here: http://www.myspace.com/jamiewoon ) - out at the end of this month on Live Recordings (has been played by Mary Anne Hobbs on Radio 1 a couple of times already, it seems).

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 7 January 2007 17:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Didn't The Wire call this their #1 album of the year?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yep.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

i've never got to the end of this record.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Holy Shit!

Hype hype hype and then it turns out to be fantastic!

I had no idea. I could play Broken Home on repeat for hours... I really should have been paying more attention to this whole dubstep thing, but then there's only so much hours in the day and essays have to be handed in and I only get so much time off work and...

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Actually this is kind of weird that this thread is bumped just now because I'm on a Death In June trip again which is why I ended up finding this thread in the first place!

Still despite the fact that Death In June have nothing at all to do with the Burial this thread is dedicated to, I still stand by the album and look forward to the rumoured next Burial album due this year.

― Booper Soul (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jamie Woon - Wayfaring Stranger (Burial Remix)

this track is up on Hype Machine now. it's been on repeat for hours. get it asap.

― cizzzy (brother loves dub), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Burial is a pretty shitty Death in June lp.

Burial sounds like an instrumental version of Tricky's 3rd album.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

i've never got to the end of this record.

-- jed_

although I have, jed is closet to my feelings about 'Burial' overall.

― about:coffee (fandango), Monday, 5 February 2007 10:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

New atmospheric track on his myspace: Endorphin

http://www.myspace.com/burialuk

― StanM, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

i could not get thru this album either and it annoyed me

― SusanD, Monday, 2 April 2007 09:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Could someone please point me to that obscured or whatever photo of Burial?

― W4LTER, Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

There are some in this month's issue of the Wire.

― jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 12:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/347/

― willem, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

There's another picture in the magazine, he's all shadowy and you can make out that he's wearing a beanie and has long curly hair (somewhat unsurprisingly).

― jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

"I've only listened to it twice in full, but I think the album as a whole doesn't quite live up to its best tracks - i wish the whole thing had abandoned virtual-reality-divas moaning in anguish all over it, but it's only a couple of times and very fleeting!

-- Tim Finney (Tim Finney)"

so i'm guessing you loved the new one? i cant remember if you were posting in that thread or not.

― pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

New Burial album. More info?

― curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

so yes, is he the same as "Tim F"? that's what i was confused about. and since "Tim F" seemed to not like the new one, yet it is almost exactly what "Tim Finney" said he wanted the first Burial album to be, it isnt immediately obvious. one thing i dont like about ILM is that there is no real user profile, people can change their names and whatnot too easily. very annoying.

― pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thanks!

― W4LTER, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

one thing i dont like about ILM is that there is no real user profile, people can change their names and whatnot too easily. very annoying.

You can't change your name.

― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Go ahead and try.

― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Without starting a new account.

― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but you used to be able to and people did all the time (although Tim's names are pretty easy to decode.) I do find it hard to keep track of who someone is now in nu-ILX world.

― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

I was trying to be all superpedantic like pipecock with his "Tim Finney used to say he would like something like the new Burial album but he doesn't like the new Burial album! OMG!!!11!1!" but I suppose it didn't translate.

― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Notice myself saying that this was utter shit upthread and I ended up buying it and thinking it was one of the best albums of last year. Things change.

― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

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