Rolling Late-60's/Early-70's Thud-Rock Thread

Scott, you gotta include Chicken Shack's Imagination Lady! That is not obscure in the sense that is probably isn't all that rare, but obscure in the sense that it is one of the heaviest records that nobody talks about. I wish more people knew that one. Way better than any of the boring earlier Chicken Shack records.

I say you should lean more non-(after-the-fact)canon, aside from of course the can't-avoid listing (and yeah, Buffalo, Pink Fairies and Sir Lord would be there)

I was listening to the Cactus debut the other day. Holy shit does that rock like an absolute motherfucker. I always liked the story about the backstage fight between them and Sabbath at the Fillmore. I guess Rusty Day got tossed through a wall.

I saw Phil Keaggy mentioned above. A buddy from a family into heavily into the born-again thing took me to a concert of his in '85 or '86. What an unbelievable guitarist.

been listening to records that i own but have never listened to...pull this out this AM...it's pretty good! also, the cover seems to be the spiritual forefather to the cover of accept's "balls to the wall"

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41W0FCF38AL._SS500_.jpg

I got the first Bang album on vinyl a few months back. It was awesome.

You like Wishbone Ash, Ever heard Thunderpussy's Documents of Captivity? I thought that sounded pretty Wishbone Ash-ish (with the unfortunate addition of an occasional flute.) Aside from that, I'm really only familiar with the more "famous" acts, the JD Blackfoots and Budgies and Nitzingers and all that. Don't think I've ever discovered, entirely on my own, any record/band from that era that was both totally classic AND hopelessly obscure. (Goodthunder and Ramatam just didn't cut it, altho Spontaneous Combusion had their moments). And of course, thanks to the internet, there soon won't be any more obscure stuff at all. Which is kinda depressing...

Never heard Thunderpussy...I actually only heard Wishbone Ash for the first time this morning actually...I'll check out Thunderpussy though, with a name like that they can't lose.

thunderpussy are alright. i like the flute.

Scott, do you know any Socrates Drank The Conium records? Big saurian dual-guitar blues-psyche from Greece?

yeah, seconding this if you haven't heard 'em, scott. on the wings has a song called "death is gonna die" fer chrissakes. heavy and proggy.

as for the article, pick ten of each or something. my instinct would be not to go too crazy with impossible to find vinyl but is anything impossible to find thanks to the internet? also, CLEAR BLUE SKY!

And Thunderpussy's "legendary" Documents of Captivity is actually kinda nice, but sounds more like Wishbone Ash or something equally proggy than anything metallic. Plus the bassist doubles on flute, & that's just sad.
-- Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:13 (3 years ago)

You like Wishbone Ash, Ever heard Thunderpussy's Documents of Captivity? I thought that sounded pretty Wishbone Ash-ish (with the unfortunate addition of an occasional flute.)
-- Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:50 (Yesterday)

Sufferin' jesus - I finally train myself to always read the whole thread before posting to prevent such redundancies; and now I gotta try to remember to "Click here to display them all" everytime too!

And finally, if I haven't gotten my point across yet (Wishbone Ash good, flute bad) you can click here and read it a third time, alongside a few snarky remarks and a genuinely informative nugget or two.

this album is better than i remember:

http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/i/illusion-if_its_so.jpg

heavier and funkier that i remember. haven't played it in years. i mean, it's no work of genius, but there is definitely thud involved. and lotsa guitars.

apropos this thread:

White Lace & Strange: Heavy Psych And Power Fuzz From USA 68-72

1. Persecution - Third Power
2. White Lace & Strange - Thunder & Roses
3. Dimples - The Hook
4. It Could Be Me - The Power Of Zeus
5. John Doe - Banchee
6. Steel Dog Man - Brother Fox And The Tar Baby
7. Hideaway Of Your Love - The Lemonade Charade
8. Angeline - Genesis
9. Loveless Lives - Blue Mountain Eagle
10. Someone Else's Games - Mount Rushmore
11. Get In The Wind - The Illinios Speed Press
12. Bide My Time - The Fields
13. Spaceship Earth - Road
14. Knocked Out - Eden's Children
15. I Think You'd Cry - T.I.M.E.
16. Darkness - The Underbeats
17. I'm A Man - Yellow Payges
18. Time Has Come, Gonna Die - Lincoln Street Exit
19. My Babe - The Uniques
20. Seventh Is Death, The - The Fort Mudge Memorial Dump

it's pretty good. i've got some of that stuff already and foolishly passed up lots of the rest, but it's good. oh, and mr. bevis frond's liner notes are shit (he "couldn't find any information" about the genesis from LA) and have a reluctant, book report-ish quality. but it's good overall. good sound quality.

Got label/retail info?

psychic circle is the label. the only website listed is soundlinkmusic.com, which seems to just sell radioactive, fallout and psyhic circle stuff.

uhh, forced exposure carries them.

i've always wanted that fort mudge album. and the brother fox album. third power are cool. i still want that lincoln st. exit album too. they became XIT.

i love that thunder & roses album. philly power-trio. lotsa great fuzzed out hendrix/cream rips.

i love the hook too. can't say enough good stuff about them. plus, one of them was chaki's dad!

i fucking adore that first Banchee album. so addictive. wish i could afford their second album.

the first illinois speed press album is great. highly recommended. not straight up hard rock though. a mix of folk/rock/hard rock.

eden's children rule.

t.i.m.e. had one or two good tracks per album.

i figured you'd have something to say about these, scott. i passed up the mudge album and i've regretted it ever since.

haven't heard the lincoln st. exit LP but there's a pretty cool ep i got on mysteryposter's blog.

i love the hook too. can't say enough good stuff about them. plus, one of them was chaki's dad!

wow! their song kicks ass, too.

i fucking adore that first Banchee album. so addictive. wish i could afford their second album.

i got both on one cd on lizard records. CONTEMPORIZE, MAAAAN!

i'm never buying radioactive/fallout stuff. i'm down with the ban. especially after knowing how radioactive treated george brigman. fuck them. they should be in jail. hey, if you are a fan, and you put out 200/300/500 copies of some forgotten shit on vinyl and then you are done with it, that's okay with me. you make a business out of ripping people off and do it for years? why can't anyone stop these people?

five of those groups on that comp made my decibel top 50. including road. if it's the same road. this road:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/56471.jpg

I'm late to the thread but nobody seems to have mentioned Stackwaddy yet. You can't get too much thuddier than that I think...

They were really entertaining in an utter shite kind of way. I once heard an interview where John Peel was talking about them (they were on his label Dandelion, for anyone who didn't know that part) and it was hilarious.

Apparently these lads were a bit flaky due to nearly constant drunkenness was the gist of it. Great stuff.... Someone got me into them when I became obsessed with the Dandelion label some years ago.

They finally released a comp of the label this year called Life Too, Has Surface Noise: The Complete Dandelion Records Singles Collection 1969-1972 which has some stuff I hadn't been able to track down and is up on eMusic. I wish I could have sprung for the physical product but maybe someone will get it for me for xmas. Anyway, the comp is recommended (in an OT way, i.e. not for its thuddiness) and does include both Stackwaddy singles, which in itself is a bit of a laugh. If you are looking to burn some eMusic credits, you could do far worse.

xxp: i think radioactive did stop, didn't they? i've bought stuff on radioactive since i found out they were weasels, but only used.

i've read things both way about fallout, though, and i don't know what to think. they seem to have business connections to sunbeam, who are generally recognized as legit and above board. as for psychic circle... don't know yet. they've only done comps so far.

it's all nebulous. i thought i heard that radioactive was involved with fallout.

er, this road:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Broadway/8489/Jacket/Road.JPG

with noel redding

that's the one.

i'm pretty sure radioactive and fallout are connected somehow, btw, just don't know if their business practices are the same.

i think the fields and the yellow payges and the hook were all on uni. maybe.

the road keeps disappearing.

kinda spooky.

i was listening to uni recording artist pinkany canandy the other day. it will be awhile before i listen again.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/50145.jpg

someone should pay me to create the ultimate album cover database. that is free for anyone to steal from. every album ever will be the goal.

imagine that? with front and back covers. inserts. lyric sheets. does anyone have bill gates' number?

Yeah I picked up that 'White Lace & Strange' thing a couple weeks back... really entertaining comp. I only have the Third Power, Fort Mudge, and Eden's Children albums, so a lot of newness to me. I had heard the Illinois Speed Press album but usually pass it up when I see it in stores.

the Road track is really great! probably the standout to me .. I had no idea that Redding was in a band after Fat MAttress or that album even existed, until a few weeks ago when iamthewitch had a copy up for sale. my interest was piqued so this comp is nice timing.

I wonder how Kurt Cobain heard the Thunder and Roses track in 1987 ?? thrift store find? college radio station?

liner notes are shit .. and have a reluctant, book report-ish quality

hahahah, yeah! ... Which is funny cuz you would expect him to be all OTT and shit

I guess psychic circle is "his" label? they also put out a couple other comps .. a prog one and something else I think.

the road album came out on natural resources. a motown label. between that label and rare earth, berry gordy is my stoner rock god.

i put my fave road track on my hotheads II mix if you wanna download it:

http://www.wvvy.org/listen/content/19feb07mix.mp3

track-list here:

Skot's Rolling Vinyl-To-MP3 Conversion Carnival Thread.

i have an album by corliss on natural resources, i think. not so hot folk-soul stuff.

I guess psychic circle is "his" label? they also put out a couple other comps .. a prog one and something else I think.

yeah, it seems to be his deal. they've done six comps so far, all over the map. as far as mostly white music from the 60s and 70s goes, anyway.

oh... and i think two more just came out in the UK. so that's 8 comps in about six months.

dude has a lot of records. now he must share with the world. i feel kinda bad that i never got into the frond. too many records. has he ever done an album with his american counterpart brother jt? i never got into him either. too many records.

he just make mixes and post them on ilm like me.

when that decibel thing comes out i'll make a corresponding thud mix and post it here. deal? deal!

Re Stackwaddy -- There was a CD which contained everything from their two albums (s/t and Bugger Off!) except their cover of "The Girl from Ipanema." I reckon that isn't missing much. I get it out every now and then. It's a consistantly good listen if you're into their even more knuckle-dragging than the standard takes on white boy blooz and the odd Jethro Tull tune. Favorite song title: Meat Pies Have Come But the Band Ain't Here Yet.

dude has a lot of records. now he must share with the world. i feel kinda bad that i never got into the frond. too many records. has he ever done an album with his american counterpart brother jt? i never got into him either. too many records.

what you said. i know i've heard some frond that was pretty good but there's just tons of cold soup there. brother jt... man, having seen him live (solo) i just don't want anything to do with his music. terrible, terrible sub-beefheart bullshit.

i was really drunk one night at a brother jt show and the crowd was going NUTS and i just couldn't understand it. it just seemed so hokey to me. like mc 900 foot jesus/detachable penis hokey.

Ha-ha. You never had to suffer through John Terlesky's I-eat-mushrooms-and-acid demo cassettes from the 80's.

New Cactus live collection on Rhino Handmade

FORTY BUCKS?! FUCK A RHINO HANDMADE.

i am still so pissed at myself for passing up the black oak arkansas double live when i saw it used for $15.

I don't care about the price-I gotta have the live Cactus

the Toad s/t is a major jam in this vein

awesome 74 live foghat show from new haven on wolfgang's vault:

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/foghat-concert/20053075-2393.html?utm_source=NL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=071212

raging honey hush. really good sound too.

the free disc with the led zeppelin cover mojo called heavy nuggets is pretty awesome:

1. Terry Reid - Tinker Taylor
2. Pretty Things - Old Man Going
3. The Open Mind - Magic Potion
4. Mighty Baby - Egyptian Tomb
5. Second Hand - Rhubarb!
6. Leaf Hound - Freelance Fiend
7. Atomic Rooster - Night Living
8. The Move - Don't Make My Baby Blue
9. Slade - My Life Is Natural
10. Possessed - Climb The Wooden Hills
11. Procol Harum - Long Gone Geek
12. Blossom Toes - Peace Loving Man
13. Luv machine - Witches Wand
14. Pete Brown & Piblokto! - Aeroplane Head Woman
15. Warhorse - Solitude

milo started a thread on that mojo comp. it tis decent indeed.

good fuckin' god the version of leavin' again on this foghat show. it helps if you have your computer hooked up to your stereo. i am blasting this shit right now.

I almost bought that Mojo just for the cd. wonder if it's still around...

every once in while - like now - i have to hear that asbury park sabbath show from 75 on wolfgang's vault. kills me every time.

Introduction 0:15
Killing Yourself To Live 6:06
Hole In The Sky 4:27
Snowblind 6:43
Symptom of the Universe 4:35
War Pigs 7:35
Megalomania 10:06
Sabbra Cadabra Pt.1 5:29
Sabbra Cadabra: Jam / Guitar Solo 7:47
Sabbra Cadabra: Jam / Drum Solo 6:02
Supernaut 2:20
Iron Man 6:12
Guitar Solo / Orchid 2:43
Rock 'N' Roll Doctor (Incomplete)8:40
Black Sabbath 6:40
Spiral Architect 4:34
Children Of The Grave 5:33
Paranoid 3:47