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she can really sing better than the vivian/dum dums - which normally is not the end of the world if it ain't there - but definitely stands out when you're emulating ronnie spector

Brio, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

EAST COAST BITCHES

oh, what? sorry.

Dennis Parrotin' (some dude), Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised there wasn't already a thread on her--I know there are a lot of fans here. But yeah, very promising. I know the new lo-fi has (rightfully) gotten a lot of heat, but she does it right. Any detractors?

AlexPh, Thursday, 29 April 2010 19:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

I like it. "When I'm with you sounds like Glasvegas with good vocals.

the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't know. They sound like a bad version of Vivian Girls. And Vivian Girls sound like a bad version of something.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

hmm had no idea this band was making inroads to the indie pop world, given that at least one of them is ex-Pocahaunted which is serious psych/drone territory.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Dennis Parrotin' (some dude)

cold shot

we got to pray just to win in ok (tremendoid), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

I dig this band mostly. Better than Dum Dum Girls. Probably not quite as good as Vivian Girls. I'm seeing them live next Tuesday woo.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

"When I'm With You" is insanely catchy, and less overshadowed by the "CAN'T YOU SEE I'M LO-FI" production of her other songs... I hope she keeps moving away from the played-out ultra-reverb stuff. (The video is nice too)

Becky Facelift, Friday, 30 April 2010 10:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Becky Facelift, Friday, 30 April 2010 10:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

I dig this band mostly. Better than Dum Dum Girls. Probably not quite as good as Vivian Girls.

this, pretty much. i like a couple of her 45s a lot, and the EP is pretty strong, but i wouldn't say everything she's done is great. one of the recent singles that i can't immediately remember the title of was weak, as is some/most of her earlier stuff..

ways t'burg (electricsound), Friday, 30 April 2010 10:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

she's great. i am struggling with song titles but 'this is real' & ' gloomy' are dope too. the neko case thing on the new record was surprising more than super-great

Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Friday, 30 April 2010 11:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh dear, were i in a band and someone said i wasn't as good as the godawful vivian girls i would be utterly depressed. best coast is great though.

keythhtyek, Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

when i'm with you is a blast of sunshine.

video's good too.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

evil clowns.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

for me it goes dum dum/mayfair set>>>viv gals>>>>>>best coast. i like pocahaunted and all, but this stuff just kinda bums me out.

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

love 'em. liked "sun was high" just fine, but flipped over "when i'm with you" and really like "our deal."

dum dum girls remain my fav of this particular scene. does grass widow count? them too.

mike a, Saturday, 1 May 2010 13:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, grass widow is better than all of this other stuff. dunno why i forgot about them!

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

thanks, mike and jon. i'd never heard of grass widow before, but their debut disc is on emusic, and the samples sound great. i've earmarked it for download.

i wonder why this band -- unlike, say vivian girls or best coast -- have remained so far beneath the radar.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

song sounds like a less interesting Vivian Girls w/ in higher fidelity

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

the holding a cat at the end of the video is cute for sure though

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

rolling my eyes at everyone who's so off-put by lo-fi, reverb, song titles (wtf). i don't get how that sort of stuff makes people so uncomfortable and hesitant about liking stuff, like as if they're blinded by the trendiness and can't actually tell if they like them or not.

great fan-made video for "sun was high (so was i)": http://vimeo.com/5385161

passion of the wein (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

indie guilt on ILX shocker, film at 11

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's not really that complicated ppl are just sick of fucking reverb and fake lo-fi production that you don't even need to have in 2010

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

you don't "need" to have any aesthetic

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

i get what you're saying -- technology has advanced enough that we aren't limited to a lo-fi sound -- but that doesn't mean that sound isn't still available, and that doesn't mean people shouldn't use it. i think it's more interesting to say why that aesthetic does or doesn't work for a particular song or band

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

what we really need is a back-to-basics movement. maybe just some guys. with beards. and guitars.

acoustic guitars.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

of course, i could see why an indie fan would be "sick of" that aesthetic, because it's been a thing in indie for forever. but, like, even you like the Vivan Girls' last record, right? some people still pull it off well. i like the first Vivian Girls' record

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Daniel, I think you should join Fleet Foxes

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

i cannot grow a beard that majestic.

also, i am too old to be in a band. even the fleet foxes.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

one is never to old to play acoustic guitar & have a beard, as patchy or unmajestic as it may be

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

patchy it would be.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

anyway, nothing wrong with a lo-fi aesthetic filled with reverb. done well, i still appreciate it. besides, does that really characterize best coast's sound? its more 60s-girl group/surf rock homage, to me.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

if you buy an electric instead of an acoustic, you can start a lo-fi band, forgo the beard completely, *and* save money on production costs by using a cassette deck instead of a modern studio

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

ksh, there are days where, if i could give up my law practice for a gig with a band, i would.

of course, i'd have to be able to play even passably.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

not in indie rock you wouldn't -- buy a guitar, learn a handful of chords, and start singing the first thing that comes to mind. send the demo to a blog. you will be featured on Stereogum in a month's time

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

xxxp yeah that's getting at the problem--a lot of bands are trying to explicitly give themselves a "retro" aesthetic through recording techniques. i think it rarely works well. it's not really a problem with the second vivian girls record because a) the songwriting is going in a completely different direction and b) i'd characterize their production more as just "noisy" than anything

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

wait, you're saying . . .

I COULD BE FEATURED ON STEREOGUM?!?

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

within a week's time, if you're very lucky & willing to eventually have your lo-fi tunes featured in a KFC commercial

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

xpost to cad

sure. one of the problems with indie rock, and with any genre, really, occurs when a band assumes certain signifiers (lo-fi production, a certain guitar sound) w/o its being an "essential" part of their sound. it's the difference between a band's putting on ill-fitting clothes b/c tradition or current trends present those clothes to you as an option & having a certain aesthetic as an inherent, "essential" part of one's aesthetic

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

things are more nuanced than that, but that's the best way i can think to describe it right now

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

having a certain aesthetic as an inherent, "essential" part of one's aesthetic

switch that first "aesthetic" for "sound or production choice"

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

The true test is whether the songs hold up despite the lo-fi aesthetic. I'd argue that "When I'm With You," the stuff on the DDG album, etc. are sturdy enough to withstand any production approach. Same as the Shrimper acts from a decade ago; as we now know, the Mountain Goats' songwriting lends itself to boombox production or lush 4AD-sponsored studio craft.

mike a, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

And I happen to like a minimal, low-tech approach anyway. If I haven't gotten sick of it since playing early Beat Happening on the radio in 1985, it's not going to happen now.

mike a, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's just another production option for an artist. there's nothing inherently wrong with it at all.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

there's a band called Grass Widow, too? fuck, i've fallen asleep

why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's not really that complicated ppl are just sick of fucking reverb and fake lo-fi production that you don't even need to have in 2010

― call all destroyer, Saturday, May 1, 2010 12:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

maybe i just like lo fi more than most but it's hard for me to relate to people who are all "i can't tell if i like this song because its LOFI and REVERB and SUMMER and i hate all those things because they're so trendy right now." are people just really picky about production or

passion of the wein (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

i am pretty picky abt production so

this really isn't about trendiness--it's about laziness, and bands choosing production techniques that cover up poor musicianship, singing, and songwriting and then saying it's an aesthetic choice. i'm not saying this is happening intentionally, but i do think it is happening.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

since there's no way to judge why an artist is making a particular production choice--unless you ask them, and even then "intentional fallacy" yada yada--i just try to judge them on the final product & whether it sucks or not

ksh, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

ppl are just sick of fucking reverb and fake lo-fi production

by "ppl," i assume you mean ILM posters who still maintain some sort of an interest in indie rock, b/c most indie kids probably don't care & the majority of the population doesn't know that Japandroids or No Age exist

ksh, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

LOOK AT HIM

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 September 2011 05:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is one super pussy

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

late pass alert: this album is great

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

really late to the game on this one, it's nice, although a little forgettable.

akm, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh I can't wait to hear Best Coast go "emo," aided by Jon fucking Brion. Jesus fucking christ.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 9 January 2012 04:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

do you really hate jon brion or?

i don't know that "some punk girl sings shangri-la-esque guitar jams with harmonies & ~guitar effects~!" would have sounded so alluring. one of the nicest parts of her record was our deal; i am into some slow jams.

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 10:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

jon brion is totally awful

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 January 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm just a philistine but I can't tell how this new album is going to sound any different from the previous one

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, if i had to venture a guess, i'd say that it will sound different because jon brion will find a way to put some dorky keyboard bullshit all over it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

He just better not fuck with the OOOOOOOOsss

kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently there are less OOOOOOOOOOOsss on this record

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

As long as they are OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs and not the annoying OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWAAAA she was singing live last time I saw them.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I were her producer, I would do away with the WAAA part of the OOOOOOOOO. Keep it pure, y'know?

kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I totally didn't recognize that the dude was Brion's longtime tech/roadie. Different haircut, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

as long as the keybs are covered in hiss i'm down

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 January 2012 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anticipation for this record is bringing out my inner Mike Love. I don't want them to fuck with the formula. There better be plenty of cat and weed references and at least 8 combined minutes of OOOOOOOOO.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

whenever I hear them it only makes me wish that amy linton or linton was not retired or designing houses or whatever.

keythhtyek, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

The title track is now available for free download. The California tourism board will be very pleased. I'm going to have to give it a few more listens, but I'm not happy about no cats/pot/ooooooooos. The production makes it very easy to understand the lyrics, which could be a problem.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

look what i found tonight:

The Only Place is the second studio album by duo Best Coast. It is to be released on May 15, 2012 on Mexican Summer Records.

Track listing:

No. Title Length
1. "The Only Place" 2:40
2. "Why I Cry" 2:17
3. "Last Year" 3:33
4. "My Life" 2:12
5. "On One Like You" 3:02
6. "How They Want Me to Be" 3:52
7. "Better Girl" 2:54
8. "Do You Love Me Like You Used To" 3:16
9. "Dreaming My Life Away" 3:22
10. "Let's Go Home" 2:35
11. "Up All Night" 4:37

Bee OK, Friday, 27 April 2012 05:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

whenever I hear them it only makes me wish that amy linton or linton was not retired or designing houses or whatever.

I think the band's alright but reading this makes me realize I pretty much have the exact same thought every time I give them a listen.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Friday, 27 April 2012 05:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is streaming at NPR

kornrulez6969, Monday, 7 May 2012 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks

Bee OK, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

CTRL + F "whiney" = 0 results

what the hell, this is like a gimme for whinehate™

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

wasn't into the first single, maybe I'll check out the second if they release a video. liked their first few 7" a lot.

UnderControl, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can we talk about this record? All my worst fears are confirmed. No pot, cats or ooooooh.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really dislike the sound, it's bizarrely muffled and tubby with harsh resonances all at the same time

makes it difficult to focus on the not-bad songs, despite their cat-free qualities

mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I actually kind of like this new one, I was subjected to it while browsing at a bookstore. Her lyrics are still awful and rhymes painfully obvious, but I think Brion's production kind of fits it. I don't love it or anything, but it wasn't as terrible as everyone is trying to claim.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

is this the record that will finally let everyone know how terrible jon brion is?

i mean the songs are no great shakes but my god

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

no no no it's terrible xp

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't realise it was a brion thing, i think his ego might have taken over his ears

mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really have deep evidence to back this up but everything i've ever knowingly heard that he's been involved with has sounded really, really bad

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

dude has more vintage wank equipment than vincent gallo and this is the sound he gets? he should be drawn and quartered

mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha

posts very much in character /\/\/\\/\

www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Almost afraid to stick my head over the trench here but Bachelor No. 1 was great and that was a Brion joint i think.

calstars, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

bachelor no. 1 is......ok and not because of him

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

CTRL + F "whiney" = 0 results

what the hell, this is like a gimme for whinehate™

― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:54 (1 week ago) Permalink

CTRL + F "best coast" on spin.com = 1 result under "SPIN ESSENTIALS"

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 18 May 2012 04:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

The production isn't helping her at all. Plus She has a tendency to draw out the last syllable of every line which makes the banality of her rhymes even more glaring.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i wanna withdraw whatever "maybe it'll be good! jon brion isn't so bad is he?" remarks i made earlier itt. she should do super early-eps fuzzy stuff or should go all out & do the full band fleetwood mac thing that some of these songs want. it sounds so clean and terrible, with its little jaunty indie movie drumming.

some of the songs are okay though.

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was going to pick it up earlier this week, but the shop had the new Sinead on LP so I grabbed that instead, trusting my gut vs my hipster elbow..anyway I think I can safely say I've already clocked more hours with "How About I Be Me (And You Be You)" then I have clocked with any album with the words Coast, Best, Bells or Broken in it...funny thing about Sinead is she can still write a smoking tune despite being obviously mad as shit...I know, this is not a Sinead Mad as Shit or Still Writing Bangers thread, but it is all I got....
NP: Dr Dee

Napo, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

im into this 1

johnny crunch, Sunday, 3 June 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's probably the best track

molly olsen (electricsound), Sunday, 3 June 2012 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think this one is pretty fab (previous distorto version of same song notwithstanding):

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

http://instagram.com/p/V8SxgZMcBX/

markers, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

:3

rave revue (electricsound), Saturday, 23 February 2013 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

I don't know why
the sun's in the sky
the rain, it falls down
down onto the ground

goodbye cruel world

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:25 (10 months ago) Permalink

opening track on the new EP is ace imo. mind you i liked a few tracks on the last album just fine.

piscesx, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:33 (10 months ago) Permalink


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