Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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It tried to roll out the new version to me after I already downloaded it myself, resulting in something fucking up and me having to do it all again. Really happy with it but I'm still a bit wary about it mining my libraries - I'm not a serial advance copy downlooter but I imagine if I was I'd be concerned about installing a product that allows major record labels to browse my computer for albums they haven't released yet.

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't make those playlists public, then! Pretty sure it doesn't let them see details of your library otherwise.

stet, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

How much information does Spotify store about my local files and what do you do with them?
We collect data on the files you import and play for top list purposes, statistics and to link tracks to our database for better sharing. As we state in our privacy policy, we won’t share an individuals information regarding imported files to 3rd parties.

From the blog, although obviously it depends how far you believe that's likely, and what exactly it means.

How did it fuck up onimo? I did the same, and it's crashed a couple of times, but nothing serious.

Other than that, it's great - always slightly wary of the social aspect of these (misanthropy/integration of everything fear) but the assimilation of itunes stuff is great, as the fact you can sync both local and spotify files to iphone playlists. Once the new iphone gets third party apps running the background - KABOOOM, I have leveled up.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Ooh, so does this mean I'll be able to use Spotify as my MP3 player, without having to open bloaty old iTunes?

mike t-diva, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

How did it fuck up onimo?

Nothing too serious. Refused to play for a bit. Then claimed it couldn't update because I didn't have Administrator permission. Then didn't install the update because the installer was already there. I ended up deleting the downloaded setup file and starting it again and it was fine.
As we state in our privacy policy, we won’t share an individuals information regarding imported files to 3rd parties.

The major record labels are big shareholders in Spotify meaning they're not necessarily third parties.
Don't make those playlists public, then!

The setup process for the new library functions goes through your library and adds every song and playlist *before* you decide what not to share. Regardless of what I do afterwards there is a point at which Spotify knows if I have any dodgy mp3s in my library.

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Ooh, so does this mean I'll be able to use Spotify as my MP3 player, without having to open bloaty old iTunes?

Yep, on computer it's great, because the whole search/linking thing is so much better than itunes, tho not sure about relative amount of space taken up per song on iPhone, and obviously that whole not being able to run spotify in the background is a drag, until the iPhone 4.

Point taken about third parties onimo.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

The labels only have a 17% stake; they definitely count as third parties. Spotify giving them data on who has prereleases would just be suicide, too. I'd be relaxed about it.

stet, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought you were generally more twitchy than most about data mining, particularly when Facebook gets involved.

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Sony, Universal and Warner have 8% each, according to

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/07/AR2009080700891.html

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

oh wait I'm wrong - they're using commas and decimal points :/

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I am, I guess trust matters a lot here: I trust Ek and a bunch of Swedes way more than Zuckerberg or CBS. Even at that last.fm has been packed with leaked stuff for years and nothing happens.

It's not actually illegal to listen to or possess this stuff, anyway: only to duplicate or distribute it. (Someone else can be the test case on how you get it on your machine without duplication tho ...)
Xp

stet, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

commas *as* decimal points

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Inbox needs a 'Thanks' button. Also 'Thanks. Thanks a bunch.'

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Saturday, 1 May 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think labels are really bothered about what files are on people's PCs only whether they've "uploaded" them

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 1 May 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

How long is it going to take before us plebs get the new version?

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

you can download the new version; the update doesn't mess with any existing playlists or settings

And if yours isn't updating to the latest version, download it from

http://download.cnet.com/Spotify/3000-2141_4-10912348.html

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Tho see onimo's posts about having to re-install.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 1 May 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah - downloaded it for mac, no joy.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Bugger.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 1 May 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah - downloaded it for mac, no joy

That's really odd: doing that worked for me (and Stet, I think). It's definitely version 0.4.3 you're getting?

On a more general Spotify/Mac note: is anyone else finding it more stuttery and troublesome of late, usually at evenings and weekends? I'm 99% sure this is related to my ISP (good ole BT) and their traffic-shaping: there's been a lengthy discussion of it on Spotify's forums and both them and BT have made promising noises about a fix -- but I'm pretty much having to rely on offline playlists most of the time now. Not a massive hardship, but still ...

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Spotify + Mac + BT + stuttering - tell me about it.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you grimly fiendish, now have latest version.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

getting stuttering now. This latest track has just stopped completely. What a waste of money.

Dastardly & Müttley Crüe (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 3 May 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

A few niggles:

- After the recent update, I'm not informed the number of songs in each playlist
- When I search for artists/albums, I often get "and xxx more". How can I find the xxx others?
- Is the only way to print playlists: CTRL C | CTRL V in MS Word ?
- Can I make a playlist of the (more amusing) ads?

- Is there another blog/forum for such questions?

Cheers

garside5, Thursday, 13 May 2010 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link

amusing ads o_O

http://spotify.com/blog

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I paid 99p for a no-ads day on Saturday and it was fine - went through a 6 hour playlist without a single hiccup in the stream. Recommended for parties full of people who won't like most of what's on your local library.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

- When I search for artists/albums, I often get "and xxx more". How can I find the xxx others?

if you scroll down through the list it adds new entries iirc

joe, Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

After the recent update, I'm not informed the number of songs in each playlist

And you no longer get the total playing time, either. Boo. Although oddly, both remain in place for the "Starred Items" playlist.

Is the only way to print playlists: CTRL C | CTRL V in MS Word ?

This never worked for me - I just get a series of messy looking URLs. Perhaps it's been fixed in the new version? Can't check right now.

I do like finding out who has subscribed to my playlists, though.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 13 May 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone using this as srs itunes replacement for local files? Any good?

I don't want to go into my newt details (ledge), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

was excited to try this as my itunes collection is way too big to live on my laptop's hard drive. spotify seems to be missing loads of stuff tho.

p-dog, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it searches for playlist files rather than all local audio.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I asked:Is there another blog/forum for such questions?

amusing ads: recommended: http://spotify.com/blog

But can you ask stuff there?

Or where?

garside5, Friday, 14 May 2010 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

You can ask questions in the comments sections of the spotify blog and sometimes spotify staff answer them, if you're lucky.

There's also
http://www.spotify.com/int/help/support-forum/

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Friday, 14 May 2010 09:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone managed this:

"You can further sort your playlists into your own compilations, collaborative efforts, playlists created by friends, and more. Just create a blank playlist for each sorting category. You can use symbols such as * and – to make your labels stand out, for example “- – -My Playlists- – -” or “***Party Playlists***”."

Is it just an extension of the manual alphabetization?

http://www.stuffbypaulbrown.com/how-to-organise-your-spotify-playlists/#comments

garside5, Saturday, 15 May 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

how do i uze this bitch in the USA (BABAY!!!!) USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

kelpolaris, Saturday, 15 May 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link

try this

1) go to http://www.daveproxy.co.uk/
2) enter the following URL: https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/
3) Create your account, for UK postcode – check http://www.postcodesearch.org.uk/

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 15 May 2010 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

comments on blog I got that from says it might not work as they check ip from the spotify application. You might need to do more ip shenanigans.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 15 May 2010 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone else heard the ads for this crazy German band?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URxzu8EFBVY

James Mitchell, Monday, 17 May 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh, no, thankfully i upgraded to premium. The world doesnt need a german housemartins

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

guess i was asleep when the housemartins covered r&b hits in a rockabilly style.

I don't want to go into my newt details (ledge), Monday, 17 May 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ruh-roh:

First up is Spotify Unlimited, which offers you round-the-clock, ad-free access to Spotify on your computer. Create playlists, build your own library, share music with friends - and all for only €5 a month.

Also available from today is Spotify Open. Open offers new Spotify users the chance to try out the service without the need for an invite, giving access to millions of tracks for up to 20 hours every month - that’s equivalent to listening to 25 albums or 300 tracks EVERY month!

http://www.spotify.com/uk/blog/archives/2010/05/18/open-and-unlimted/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

users who are happy with their current plan won’t be affected by these updates.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

...if you're already paying, surely?

Looks like the free service will now be restricted to "up to 20 hours per month".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe not. If you haven't already signed up, looks like you lost out (unless you can get an invite): http://www.spotify.com/uk/get-spotify/overview/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

No "available offline" or spotify mobile with Unlimited (doesn't that make it Limited?) and it's got the same bitrate as free but £5 to get rid of the ads is tempting.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

im signed up but don't seem to have n.e. invites to give out :/

If you have Free now, you'll fallback to Free when your Premium or Unlimited expires.

^good news for anyone wanting to try out Unlimited.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Day pass is no longer available!
We recommend Spotify Premium or Spotify Unlimited instead.

:(

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link

boo

long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

the beginning of the end

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Surprised it's taken them so long to do this.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link


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