I've heard other Amon Amarth and Man O'War records, just not either of those two. Have the GridLink, but haven't really listened to it since I was sent the promo. I remember thinking I had to be in a very particular mood to want to hear it.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Some tips for appreciating Manowar: remember that the lyrics are not the music. The album cover and any band photos you may Google up are not the music. Yes, they're goofy looking. Yes, their lyrics wallow in a kind of machismo that our placid suburban middle-class upbringing and secondary/higher education have taught us is to be ridiculed. But can they write a riff? Hell, yes. Can they play their instruments? They can play the fuck out of their instruments. So shut off the part of your brain that reflexively snickers at things you might be embarrassed to be seen/overheard liking, and fully invest yourself in taking Manowar seriously for 40 minutes or so.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 26 April 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
The ManOwaR is not an obvious (thunder)pick, but Thor The Powerhead, Mountains and Guyana are three of their strongest songs, epic stuff. I get goosebumps when the song is introduced in the Hell on Wheels live album.
Also, some fanclub dude counted the times the word "metal" was uttered in each Manowar album. The average was around several dozens, but strangely it's nowhere to be heard in Sign.
― no-nonsense, Monday, 26 April 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
^ the song="Thor"
― no-nonsense, Monday, 26 April 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Excellent, just starting the Amon Amarth now! I haven't heard this Amon Amarth album, had never even heard of GridLink, and haven't listened to this Manowar album since it was still current, so this will all be new enough for me, but I shouldn't have to bail out of anything!
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I always prefer Hail to England over Sign of the Hammer, but it's still a solid album. "Guyana" and "Mountains" especially.
And I play Versus the World's "Death in Fire" all the time. I never tire of that tune, and it kills live.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
My first and fave Manowar album is Fighting the World, primarily for the totally awesome insane "Black, Wind, Fire and Steel," but this album is really great. Especially Guyana which has some completely gorgeous moments that I had no idea Manowar was capable of. I can see why unperson wanted us to listen to this unironically (or without looking for camp), because this song at least is totally good in a very sincere beautiful way. (Every time they sing Guyana, I keep hearing Diana, and then imaging that they're singing this to a girl.) That said: I think it's totally legit to appreciate Manowar songs for being completely over the top metal camp.
― Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
ooooooooooooooooooooh
http://i42.tinypic.com/6z3af8.jpg
― StanM, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
first riff on versus the world is THUNDEROUS
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i remember streaming some of twilight of the thunder gods and not getting what the big deal was, so this is a good re-engagement opportunity.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to Amon Amarth just now. On the first song and liking it so far, love the guitar solo.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahah love the bell on the second track
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
amon amarth is on grooveshark for amurrcans, btw.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I got the sound of a phone dialling on the 2nd track then a scottish dude asked me to give blood. Damn spotify adverts.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
REMEMBER! PIRATING IS A CRIME! ARGH.
― Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not paying £10 a month premium just to listen to amon amarth, its good so far but I'd rather buy the damn thing for a tenner.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Guitar sound is awesome on this, but the drum sound is argh.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i know what you mean--i'd like the drums to be a little more aggro but it's not really bothering me that much
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
its that farting drum sound all the way through it, im not a muso so cant explain it, its all over most extreme metal albums and its always annoying. But you all know what I mean.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
back to last week's:Fates Warning is the surprise. Im sure I mustve heard some of it when it came out, but its much better than I remembered FW being. Fantastic drummer, great songs, great solos...singing obv a bit dated and silly. Like that theyre somewhere midway between queensryche and iron maiden. Production is great too, if only more records sounded as breathy, open.
― Siegbran, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder if this is what people mean by drum triggers? Someone needs to explain it to me. But it really is annoying me spoiling a really good record.xp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Triggered drums are when the producer adds a sample drum sound on the beats to keep the kick drum tone as clean as possible. Lots of people hate it, but I'm fine with it in most cases. On this album the kicks are borderline intrusive, that's for sure, but that sort of adds to the whole cannonading fun of Amon Amarth. Gets the blood pumping!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
CoF on the other hand so unsurprising. This band really put all their originality into their first album and then cruised all the way to the bank/goth chicks for the next 15 years. Its a nice franchise but it really depends on fresh flows of adolescents cause who would buy more than 2 CoF albums? Basically theyre the Insane Clown Posse of metal. And with all original non-Dani members now out they really have nothing going for them musically at all, so boring and predictable and stale.
Interesting to note that their debut was received very well in 'serious' metal press and many a tr00 metalhead I know liked it on first listen. Amazing how fast this band wears off.
― Siegbran, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
in conclusion--amon amarth fucking ruled, that's def going on the buy list, thx phil!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
re: camphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3LghdBWxc
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
on to manowar now--this might be good, i don't know. i understand the point about turning your brain off a little but i hate 80s cock-rock vocals so so much
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"mountains" is actually just disgusting
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
when did ross the boss leave?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
after kings of metal iirc?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
bass harmonic melody plus volume swell pedal solo
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, wow
yeah i hate this type of vocal mostly, but unlike with john garcia of Kyuss, i'll never be able to like them.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ok just gonna skip to guyana (cult of the damned) if no one minds
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Love Guyana!
― Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Manowar definitely lost something when Ross left. The riffs by the other guy are good, but always so darn stiff. Ross knew groove.
Oh, and Eric Adams and Ross the Boss are two of the nicest guys you will ever meet.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
lol probably don't even need to say this but that was dict. definition of "not my thing"
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
time to track down gridlink
oh god is this a ballad?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
this is horrific
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i fucking despise power ballads
death to false metal
i've lost the will to live
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
gridlink might just give it back to you
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i like this but it's hard to know what to "do" with an 11-minute lp. yes i am a grind noob.
I hate grind but I think i could handle 11 mins of that more than another 11 of Manowar. But not tonight.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Three songs into the Manowar so far and liking this a whole hell of a lot better than the only other album I've heard from them, Warriors of the World. Phil was right, this is much more enjoyable if you ignore the lyrics and focus on the musicianship. Absolutely love the solo on "Thor (The Powerhead)".
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, this first part of "Mountains" is really hard to take, bring back the riffs please! And quick!
Phew, there they are.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha, that first bit of "Thunderpick" was way unexpected!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, the Manowar really isn't up my alley, but now I can at least understand why people still talk about them and that they aren't a complete joke. They actually had some talent and great riffs once upon a time. "Thor" and "Guyana" probably my favorite songs of the bunch.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Listened to them all once, and a few extra spins of tracks from Amon Amarth & Manowar to revel in the riffage.
I don't care much for grindcore, and GridLink didn't change that. Did like the one-second tease of just drums at the beginning of "Burning Tiamat".
Amon Amarth I liked more than I expected, mainly for the undeniable riffs and overall guitar sound. It felt a little back-loaded for me, but I like the slower tracks like "Across The Rainbow Bridge" and "...And Soon the World Will Cease to Be" more than their burners. If someone more familiar with their catalog wants to point me toward an album even more along those lines I'd greatly appreciate it.
The Manowar was a pleasant trip down memory lane. My best friend growing up had this and Fighting The World, both of which we played to death. "Mountains" is just horrible, but I can't get enough of "Thor (The Powerhead)" and "Thunder Pick". The title track is a wonderfully ham-fisted and amped-up take on Judas Priest - in other words, right up my alley. This and the Entombed are my favorites thus far in the listening club.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link