always admired how that chorus is really clunky when you just say it but when tom powers through it it sounds like the most natural thing in the world
― dyªº (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 02:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'll make my way back home to youHead north on San Marco Avenue.
― Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 06:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
this album is so good
after "because of the shame" my favs right now are "we're breaking up" and "high pressure low" (love how the "high pressure low" chorus keeps growing)
― nabisco infiltrator (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 05:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
mordy i remember now that you loved 21st century breakdown too
― ibaka flocka flame (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 April 2010 05:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol, yeah. I was just thinking how these albums are similar, tho 21st Century is way more theatrical (which is prob appropriate that Green Day is turning those songs into Broadway numbers) and this feels a lot rawer.
― Mordy, Friday, 30 April 2010 06:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah totes -- "ache with me" is super 21st century breakdown tho & the pianos of "we're breaking up" feel that way too
― ibaka flocka flame (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 April 2010 06:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
the new Gaslight Anthem is striking me in a really similar way to this too
― Mordy, Friday, 30 April 2010 06:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
we used to get high together / instead of getting high alone
― Mordy, Friday, 30 April 2010 06:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
because of the shame i associate with vulnerability, i am numbing myself completely
― Mordy, Friday, 30 April 2010 06:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
heard the teenage anarchist song; haaaated it
― mookieproof, Saturday, 8 May 2010 11:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
I just watched the music video for it and thought it was dope also maybe MIA should watch it she might learn something
― Did you in fact lift my luggage (dyao), Saturday, 8 May 2010 12:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://stereogum.com/381371/franz-nicolay-joins-against-me/news/
― ksh, Friday, 21 May 2010 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Weird.
― Mordy, Friday, 21 May 2010 04:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah.
― ksh, Friday, 21 May 2010 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
what is he even going to play?
― jonathan blapelbon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 May 2010 06:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm really not into Against Me! suddenly playing a keyboard on all their tracks.
― Mordy, Friday, 21 May 2010 06:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
ha right
― jonathan blapelbon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 May 2010 06:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
The more I listen to this the more I like it... and I liked it right off the bat.
How is their last album compared to this? All I remember is that one single that sounded like Franz Ferdinand, which I quite liked.
― rennavate, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
The one issue I'm having with this album is that the lyrics are so bleak. Like I've been turning on Gaslight Anthem a bunch because it sounds amazing and has a really warm feeling and the lyrics are vague enough to tune out when my attention is elsewhere. This Against Me! album tho is brutal. "Narrow visions of autonomy / You want me to surrender my identity," turning into this old man looking back on his more rebellious days when he was still full of life. Or "because of the shame I associate with vulnerability / i am numbing myself completely," which turns in the end into a death (the mother burying her kid), or the super depressing "We're Breaking Up" track where he's looking around his broken relationship and wondering what to do with their shared bands and shared friends. So generally I'd rather listen to something not so completely depressing - it's not half as good as something like Blue, but it's about as relentless.
― Mordy, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well to me it's a lot about how this former teenage anarchist is dealing with being 30 (or nearly 30), realizing he can't be that kid anymore. But yeah, a lot of it's bleak shit. Is that so bad, though?
― rennavate, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
No, I mean, it can be great. I think the new album is really powerful. But I don't always want to be in that headspace, and it transmits affect really effectively.
― Mordy, Friday, 21 May 2010 07:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
Terrific album.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
yes
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
Why do me and J0rdan like the same rock albums all the time? Is there some reason that Against Me! and Titus Andronicus appeal to AUTOGOONS in particular?
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
J0rdan, do you like Torche too?
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
Are we talking about White Crosses or New Wave? Not that it really matters. They're both excellent.
The new one doesn't have anything as epic as Thrash Unreal, but it's probably more consistent overall. The only problem with New Wave for me was side 2 was not nearly as good.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
I had NO idea the Against Wave cult reviles White Crosses (check out the Amazon reviews). How is it so bloody different -- except they've gotten better at what they do?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
Against Me's fans turn on them with every album iirc
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
ha, i was gonna say, i thought they turned on them after "new wave"
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah whiney idk why we both dig the same rock albums -- add my chem & 21st cent breakdown to the list
Titus Andronicus & Torche are heavier than shit like Broken Social Scene w/o being as heavy as something like, I don't know, Mastodon (to pick an example of popular metal stuff)
― ksh, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm gonna make a thread about it so we don't clog up this one
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
that torche is really sweet, for some reason i always thought they were some baroness type metal
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
whiney there's already a thread about this sort of rock album -- mordy started it
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
maybe this isn't exactly what you were thinking tho
Post-Boss American Shades of Working Class Rock Music Thread
focuses more on gaslight anthem i guess, no idea if you like them
― the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=81488#unread
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
Oddly enough, or maybe not, but the last two Against Me! albums are my favourite of theirs. This probably says alot about my tastes.
― rennavate, Monday, 12 July 2010 04:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
ohhh man, as a huge early AM! fan I am listening to this right now. I didn't care for their last couple but the first song on this gave me goosebumps.
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 13:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
'white crosses' is such an anthem, I can't get past it every time I put the album on
love the way he says "home-to-you" and "av-uh-nue"
really wanna go to an AM! show and jam to this
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 11:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
― rennavate, Friday, May 21, 2010 3:17 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark
cursory feeling is not only can he not be that kid anymroe, but he realizes how... windmill-tilting it all was? "politics were too convenient" - he's wiser, has perspective from which to evaluate and condemn his past actions, but is still waiting for some new ideology to replace it - "looking for context and perspective, looking for some kind of distraction" - and his old impulses keep returning to fill the void...
Mordy OTM about how bleak lyrically this album is, probably because I feel like I am at a similar place in life these guys are
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
"with my name tattoo'd into your skin" and later, the reverse-shot: "with your name tattoo'd into my skin"
despite the sentiments proffered, love how vulnerable the song makes tom seem.
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
thing is, I don't think he's quite closed off that chapter of that life yet. he doesn't have as much distance from that period as he would like himself or you to believe. "I've got no judgment for you/come on an ache with me." he's exhausted his veins, but he's still open - if someone were to come along and revitalize his prior leanings, I don't doubt he'd join in.
― like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 12:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
This record is an absolute monster. Now my favorite is Spanish Moss.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 July 2010 02:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
HIGH PRESSURE LOW
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
There's just no future left for us to dream ofLiving in an era of instabilitySo caught up in the culture of their rivalsFear breeds in honest menIt's a high pressure lowIt's a high pressure low
like, this is the fucking shit here
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
as a chorus
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
My favorite part of that song:
Would anyone forgive Robert McNamara?In retrospect he had to admit;There was mistake in going to war without first asking all the questions.Yes, Robert Strange McNamara,
Yes, Robert Strange McNamara
― Mordy, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 06:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
want to get up and dance & sing along to this even though I'm at work
― dayo, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 06:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's probably my favorite record of the year so far. Right now my favorite is Spanish Moss. Hard to believe this record doesn't have its own thread, but it's too late now.
To me, this band is so much better now than they were starting out.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
But ... but .... Young Americans ....
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
You may be aware of the fact that neither of them are Americans.
British = fruits?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Bowie's one of the only cases I can think of where a straight guy tried to pass himself off as gay AS A CAREER MOVE
Wasn't this Brett Anderson's thing? But I guess it's different in the UK, where Erasure had... what, FOUR consecutive #1 albums?
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Suede were ignored here, alas.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Brett Anderson was also quite clearly using Bowie as a playbook. worked about as well in the US for Suede as it did for Bowie lol
xp
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Anyway this is all kind of beside the point, she's a transwoman, not a gay man, and I think the super-positive reaction about her 'coming out' is more a reflection of the fact that being trans is (as I perceive) more difficult for the uninitiated to parse than "gay" or "lesbian"
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah we got kinda off-topic a bit
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm just happy to see a public entertainer with gender dysphoria speaking plainly and candidly about it in the media. It's not really _new_ that there are trans (or gender-queer) people working in entertainment, but I think this openness creates a more positive space and I hope it becomes the norm
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, I was looking for country singer Rae Spoon's coming out article(s)-- Rae identified as transman in the early 00s but now they identify as gender-neutral-- sadly they've been whisked away off the internet.
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
learned how to play 'reinventing axl rose' today
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rae is fucking awesome. Point final.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
worked less well because Bowie sold millions of records in American and got two #1 hits
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:41 PM Bookmark
Naw, just trying to point out the British press is probably much more relevant to that conversation than the American press you automatically jumped to.
― The Reverend, Friday, 11 May 2012 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, I think I was clear about distinguishing between his coverage (and sales) here and the Yoo Kay.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I see the band is touring with the Cult (um) this summer. I wonder how long is Tom planning to tour as Tom? And will she continue to tour as Laura? Will she tour in Against Me! or is that the end of the band?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 May 2012 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess that will become clearer soon, the RS.com blurb ends with:
The full story of Gabel's transformation is in the latest issue, on newsstands this Friday (May 11th). In it, the singer tells Josh Eells about her history of gender dysphoria, the specifics of the transition process and what becoming Laura Jane Grace will mean for the future of Against Me!
― some dude, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
If anybody can fit the phrase gender dysphoria into a lyric, it will be Laura Jane Grace.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
i read the full story the other day, it said he plans on performing as a woman when they go on tour at the end of may
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2012 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait nevermind, i misremembered -- she talks in the piece about performing onstage as a woman, but i guess there are no solid plans
it does say that she plans on being on hormones by the time they go on tour at the end of may
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
The pitchfork post on the story includes a live YouTube vid of Gable solo (with long hair!) doing a new track called "Gender Dysphoria Blues." would link, but I'm on my phone.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 11 May 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Halford came out well past their commercial peak.
Halford came out repeatedly AFAIK, the first I ever heard of Judas Priest was in a "heavy metal primer" in Smash Hits, which casually mentioned he was the only out gay in metal
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 22:54 (10 months ago) Permalink
awesome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
aw
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://youtu.be/35xd5OzEqro
Performing 'The Ocean' live in Colorado. The sheer look of joy on Laura's face around 1:10 when she hits the second verse is so incredible.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:24 (10 months ago) Permalink
(And the cheers from the crowd at those lines.
Better recording:
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:27 (10 months ago) Permalink
i was totes going to buy tickets to this. i'm glad i waited:
Against Me!BAD RELIGION TOUR CANCELLATIONUnfortunately we have to cancel all of our appearances scheduled for the upcoming tour with Bad Religion and Polar Bear Club.Canceling a tour is definitely not a decision we would make lightly. At this moment, due to our current uncertainty over who is going to be playing drums with us, we feel like we are lacking the ability to put on the show our fans deserve and we think that the best thing for us to do right now is take some time to regroup and finish a record.Our most sincere apologies to Bad Religion, Polar Club and all of the agents and promoters involved with the tour but most importantly to the fans who were coming out to see us.If anyone who bought tickets doesn't want to go to the show now or walks away from the show feeling disappointed we'll definitely do our best to accommodate some spots on our guest list next time we pass through your town, which hopefully won't be too long from now. Sincere apologies. - Against Me!
― Mordy, Monday, 4 March 2013 20:21 (2 months ago) Permalink