Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

I think she was supposed to look worried, but it did end up looking v. sexytime.

that is because Amelia Pond is hotter than the sun and cannot help looking sexytime

2. I loled at how the soldiers who were zapped by the Daleks merely fell to the ground, dead, instead of being disintegrated. For all the snazzy new production values, it was a quaint touch.

Also the one of the soldiers started acting "zapped" before the visual effect, and a bunch of times the Daleks speech and their lights were very badly out of sync. I think it was deliberate to add a bit of the feeling of the classic series, and since I don't think most people really notice stuff like that they can pretty much get away with it.

that is because Amelia Pond is hotter than the sun and cannot help looking sexytime

^^^for all time

^^^^yup

I'm going to show either ep 2 or ep 3 to a bar tuesday night. We'll see which one they vote to see, and how well it goes over.

LOL, was wondering what all that Paisley stuff was doing in the last episode, then googled Steven Moffat only to find out he's from Paisley... and then there's David Tennant of course

Neil thought it was a Tennant nod, I thought it was purely Moffat being Moffat. With Amy instantly knowing he was a "Paisley boy" from his accent, which didn't sound remotely like anyone I've ever met in Paisley, I though it was just Moffat giving a shout-out to his hometown rather than everything Scotland always having to be Glasgow or Edinburgh all the time (see also companion from Inverness).

Who would recognise a Paisley accent these days? There isn't one anymore, is there?

Well, aye, that was sort of my point.

Unless Bill Paterson had started going on about putting his bits on and sharpening a peencil

"We have to convince him he's human, get some kind of human reaction out of him"

"OK Paisley boy.... do you support the Hoops?"

"Partick Thistle"

"We're doomed"

Doubt anyone from Paisley has ever supported Partick Thistle!

Exactly..!

Like Snoop in the Wire asking the guy from New York if he liked K-Swift

Ah, I get ya

Snoop (the other one) is a Hoops fan

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But that's the way people have always died via Daleks. The disintegration ray is a max strength new super pure Dalek speciality.

I thought that Nu Who Daleks disintegrated its doomed human victims, while the prior series had a flash of light and the puny humans just falling over.

News flash: Matt Smith appears to have been dating Daisy Lowe for three months. That is all.

Should I know who Daisy Lowe is?

apparently this is Daisy Lowe:

http://jewelrypoint.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/daisy-lowe.jpg

beware her GIS at work btw unless yr boss is totally cool with models getting their tits sucked in fashion editorials

I don't think it would improve your life much, no. Unless you care about microceleb daughters of other microcelebs.

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Oh right, I admit she's quite good looking, considering she's Arthur Lowe's daughter

LOL she is Gavin Rossdale and Pearl Lowe's daughter, actually.

To get back to my nerdish fantasies...

she was worried about the lady comms officer's emotional distress, not trying to see down her tunic

Yeah, that was really weird. I kept thinking it was going to lead into a 'I'm from the future but I am yo sista' convo a la Martha and the maid from a few seasons back.

Well, I am wondering about the parallel universe because of the ridiculous amount of midair zeppelins. Also the woman you guys are focusing on was in emotional distress from the beginning of the episode.

Are we in a parallel universe, though, or is Amy just from the 90s? I mean, one of the classic Who hooks for an ep is 'something that shouldn't be happening here right now - let's fix it and return things to how they should be'. So really every Who ep is a parallel universe ... just thinking aloud here

I am wondering about the parallel universe because of the ridiculous amount of midair zeppelins

figure now they've opened this can of worms there's an infinite number of parallels and the Cybermen were able to infiltrate more than one. but conveniently there were only Timelords in this one somehow, as the alternative is just too fucked.

zeppelins = barrage balloons

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Barrage_balloons_over_London_during_World_War_II.jpg/800px-Barrage_balloons_over_London_during_World_War_II.jpg

Oh OK, I was looking for something like that but no dice - still, the zeppelin things in the episode seemed like precursors to the zeppelin tech in alt.universe and not the ones above.

they were the same as the balloons in the eccelston/rose episode that introduced jack harkness. what's weird to think about is that eccelsdoctor/rose/jack were in london simultaneous to smithdoctor/amy while meanwhile jack-frozen-under-the-earth-by his brother gray was present at the same time. crowded!

She was giving looks to lady comms long before lady comm's fella died.

Yes, because she was in emotional distress from the scene at the beginning where her fella's squadron was called up, and she knew there was a strong likelihood he would get killed

Are we in a parallel universe, though, or is Amy just from the 90s?

They had mobile phones with colour screens and hi-res cameras and Facebook on 'em in the '90s round your way?

They didn't have cracks in the space-timey-wimey thing round our way, is the point, I think. Time has gone wrong. Again.

It helps from a point POV because it's better to have an earth where alien invasions are utterly terrifying and new than it is to have an earth that's been invaded 19 times in the space of four years or whatever.

It also helps that people aren't looking to the Doctor as some kind of saviour who will inevitably turn up and make everything okay.

That seemed like the most old-school Who episode so far of the new series: lots of pointless standing around and talking, a rubbish matte backdrop of London, the entire story played out within two cheap-looking BBC sets. A bit crap, really.

Agree that Amy was a bit annoying and wooden this time (although that might have been Mrs Chuck's influence, as she kept yelling "Oh my god she's so annnnnoyyingggg" every five minutes).

Matt Smith was a bit subdued and insipid too, I thought -- not always quite selling his punchlines, which he's been better at before. Perhaps this episode was shot earlier than the previous one, because his performance seemed much less confident. Or maybe it was the shite script. That punch was terrific, though.

Yeah there were plenty of big pay-off lines that Smith just managed to get a piece of rather than hit square on the nose. The one that sticks out for me is "Oh Winston, you beauty!" which he just sort of bellows. I have to admit missing Tennant at that point. He would have allowed the new facts to settle in, eyes growing wider, and whispered it.

"It also helps that people aren't looking to the Doctor as some kind of saviour who will inevitably turn up and make everything okay."

although the previous ep had already re-established the royalty know who the doctor are bit.

Yeah there were plenty of big pay-off lines that Smith just managed to get a piece of rather than hit square on the nose. The one that sticks out for me is "Oh Winston, you beauty!" which he just sort of bellows. I have to admit missing Tennant at that point.

Too much of a Tennant line for me, that one. Part of the problem with episiodes like this is that the writers are writing in the dark a bit and are still have the last Doctor in mind quite a lot. You'd expect Smith's Doctor to come out a lot more in the Moffatt episodes and he's already doing that. The early Tennant episodes suffered from this quite a bit too, in that he still felt a bit not-quite-Ecclestone.

yeah thought of Tennant too re 'you byowty'

if Moffat going to get thru a whole series without anyone actually getting killed I wonder. surely he has to cave in soon. the odd thing about the Angels is that they have this angry demonic face when attacking but they're not actually killing or eating anyone (i can't actually remember what they get out of sending people back in time, some weird energy buzz?.

silly but what if the Doctor being not in his usual reality explained why he wasn't around for Torchwood: Children Of Earth lol (doesn't really make sense but)

Perhaps this episode was shot earlier than the previous one, because his performance seemed much less confident.

Yeah, they shot episodes 2 through 4 or 5 before they shot the first one so he would have a good grasp on what he was doing when he debuted.

Seems to have a catchphrase already, though: something like "Hah-harhhhhhh!" He's said it every episode.

"if Moffat going to get thru a whole series without anyone actually getting killed I wonder"

well ppl died in the Gatiss ep (well 2 guards on screen, and radio operator's husband/boyf), or do you just mean Moff's own stories?

just his own yes. he is writing the next two right? the ordering of all this seems strange on that basis. after Daleks and WAs so early what's left for the 2nd half of the series? oh yeah, Silurians and Cybermen, and that deadly monster Van Gogh.

I've been sort of expecting MORE DALEKS as the WWII was just a way to get the 'but how did...' stuff out of the way for a big story, but with any luck it's actually a way of putting off a big dalek story til next year.

need multicoloured collectable daleks at start of series rather than end of series, as any BBC Worldwide merchandiser kno

Don't think they need the crack in time as an excuse to bring back the Cybermen, given that the original Mondas Cyberman are presumably still around somewhere?

don't go there, sister. (here be raston warrior robots)

wish they would write out RTD's shite clompy Cybermen and their shite parallel universe and their shite fake Davros in favor of OG spooky Cybermen, but we already saw clompy cybertools in the end-of-ep-1 trailer.

SBed Mrs Chuck btw.