For those of you scoring at home...

there was a weird one Saturday-

Choo doubles home a run and it's ruled that he didn't touch first base (incorrectly i might add- replay showed he touched the bag). He is ruled out and the run is determined to score on a fielders choice.

anyone wanna help me out with this one

- M. Capps relieved C. Stammen
- S. Smith flied out to left
- T. Helton flied out to right
- T. Tulowitzki singled to shallow center
- T. Tulowitzki to second on fielder's indifference

hmmm? is that not just reg. defensive indifference?

Looks like it. That was the ninth inning and the Rockies were losing by three.

just not givin him credit for the stolen base right? not sure what the indica are exactly, like if hes not held on by the 1b baseman probably

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yeah i think if he's not held on, the catcher doesn't try to throw, and no one covers second base

otherwise ppl would rack up madd cheap steals

i've never seen "fielder's indifference" before! how is that scored on paper? FI-6 or w/e?

"DI"

yeah it's a 9th inning thing... when closers don't give a fuck about baserunners.

This makes no sense to me.

If you ground into a double-play and the runner on third scores, you don't get an RBI. I can see that--James has always said that stats should be purely descriptive, not interpretative, but I can see why it seems wrong to reward someone for killing a potential big inning.

Today, though, Donaldson hit a fly-ball to center with a runner on second and one out. Gose made a nice catch running towards right field and away from the batter, but then embarrassed himself by loping casually to the wall with the ball in his glove--he thought it was the third out. Revere tagged, kept running, and scored from second. Donaldson was given a sacrifice fly and an RBI.

That seems no more deserving of an RBI than the double-play ball. Less, even.

(Later in the game, the play was virtually duplicated--same kind of fly-ball, fewer than two outs, runner on second. Gose got it back to the infield rather quickly that time.)

I guess maybe you could make a case for charging Gose with an error? I'm not sure how it's normally scored when a guy forgets how many out there are.

I don't know where it would rank, but yesterday was one of the most beautiful things I've seen in all my years of watching the Blue Jays. Not just the home runs themselves, but the crowd's reaction to the third one, and Edwin's reaction to the crowd. First the curtain call, and then, as you may have read, fans spontaneously started throwing hats on the field (i.e., for the first time--it wasn't a ritual or anything). You can see Tulowitzki explain to Edwin that it's a hockey thing, and he starts laughing. Then he sits on the bench with this huge grin on his face as the fans chant (his name? couldn't pick it up it was so loud) for another three minutes, seemingly hoping he'll pop out of the dugout again. He didn't, I think because he thought it would show up the Tigers in the middle of a blowout. So he just sat at the end of the bench, taking it all in and grinning from ear to ear.

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