Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me (RIP blogs)

Why does she sound like Lisa Simpson singing through her anus on Occident?

if joanna newsom actually sounded like lisa simpson singing thru her anus, i might pick up one of her records. as it is, her voice sounds like a couple of cats getting into a fight in a room full of helium.

that's pure poetry guys, great job

the artistic progression that has been made over three albums ... in people's she-sounds-like-a-cat metaphors is astounding

maybe when you're that deep in the writing process for a record your own stuff can sustain you

Nonsense!

that's how it works for har mar superstar.

(AND OTHER BRILLIANT COMPOSERS)

http://pitchfork.com/news/38581-roots-and-monsters-of-folk-team-up/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS58_ZeLX1g

Why is this album so shitty?

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No. iirc the critical reception to this has been overwhelmingly positive.

sorry, the only time I've ever read anybody discuss Newman's records has been on ILX,

Huh?

any sales figures on this so far? i kinda thought with all the press she gets this had a shot to go at least top 20.
lol.

confession: i have not listened to any of HOOM from "Go Long" to "Does Not Suffice" more than once . . . and that one time was on release day

"'81" has 63 plays, though

With the exception of a few tracks (Go Long, No Provenance, and Kingfisher), I think this album is pretty darn great. I've listened to it a ton since it came out. I highly recommend quite a few of the songs on the later part of the album, especially Soft As Chalk, Esme, and Autumn.

Turangalila the reason this record has been so well received is because it is impossible to criticize. Who else is making lovingly crafted, impeccably orchestrated, analog triple disc albums in 2010? Nobody. She's the only person selling unicorn steaks, sorry if you don't like unicorn.

i like this album quite a bit.

Turangalila the reason this record has been so well received is because it is impossible to criticize. Who else is making lovingly crafted, impeccably orchestrated, analog triple disc albums in 2010? Nobody.

to be fair, iirc turangalia likes joanna newsom a lot. he just didn't like this new disc, maybe?

"Didn't like the new disc" is different from describing it as "shitty".

true.

could be a "regular album" masterpiece if 2/3 of it was left out.

81
good intentions
on a good day
in california
jackrabbits
soft as chalk

So basically I'm supposed to find this agreeable from some meta perspective and I'm supposed to be reverential about it?

I think precisely the fact that it is such an "ambitious" project makes the fact that the songs are so uneventful (and imo bad) more frustrating to me.

She's the only person selling unicorn steaks, sorry if you don't like unicorn.

Maybe within a very narrow, indie-centric perspective. But otherwise, no. Sorry.

fucking excellent new screenname Owen but that still cannot save this record

More specifically, I was so thrilled that I'd be eating what was consistently described as (and likely to be) unicorn steak but I tasted it and it turned out to be meatless. It was actually frozen, sickly sweet unagi sauce.

brb listening to the awesomely orchestrated new Nina Nastasia album

in theory i am willing to seriously stan for this album but in practice ehh

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Exactly.

still think this record is awesome though

actually i don't know, 'lovingly crafted, impeccably orchestrated' is kind of the thing -- like it's not a record where people are going to suddenly arrive at the opinion that she is amazing, from this record -- it's still a really, really, really good record

also i think it's her most generous-to-the-listener thing ever, despite being three discs long and the tracks averaging eight minutes

Also 0w3n, weren't you the one who was going on about how Ys should have been arranged by LOLWolfgang RihmLOL?

i like how Turangalila & I were hyping this record more than almost any other ilxors, then it comes out and T. doesn't like it & I've barely listened to anything beyond "'81."

that being said, I definitely should listen to it more.

can't imagine liking it more than Ys though, tbh

I definitely should listen to it more

it will change your life.

it's already changed mine.

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i kind of just want to listen to Cobalt and Baroness instead these days tbh

I stand by the notion that Rihm would make a great pop arranger.
I'm not ready to go to bat for this record, p.s.
I just wanted to point out that Newsom's generosity with this record kind of makes criticizing it a bit of a moot point.

Sorry, not "criticizing it is a moot point", I don't mean that, but if you've got a bone to pick with this record I hope that you'd nevertheless show it the respect it deserves.
Even Wire put her on the cover and interviewed her over twelve pages before mentioning that it "left them unmoved".

(That was Ys, not this album.)

I'm teasing you about Rihm, though that does make me wonder

1) How is this ephemeral pink fart closer to Rihm than Ys

2) How is this more immune to criticism than Ys

Also, "generosity" towards whom, and how, and what? The fact that it has intricate arrangements and that it's a long ass album doesn't automagically make it an Awesome Piece Of Art That One Must Be Reverential About.

As you can see upthread, I was genuinely open to loving this and adored a lot of the live incarnations of these songs. How is it so hard to understand that I find this album not only mediocre but actively bad, notwithstanding the time and effort and love that went into it?

yeah when musicians release triple albums I don't usually assume it's out of "generosity"

An EP would have been generous, to be frank

sad thing is, i don't even feel compelled to listen to this anymore than i did the day it came out

*any more

I love me a 35 minute record, I can only think of one 60+ album who's length I would defend (Tindersticks first one).
But when people start picking and choosing tracks from this triple album and saying "now THIS six song album is a masterpiece!"... well, then, she's created a masterpiece plus some songs you don't care for.
To me, anyway, an abundance of material + analog recording + overhaul of her vocal technique + new stylistic directions + pages and pages of lyrics + meticulous mixing work + a large cast of paid musicians - a record industry that would typically support such a statement = a damn generous musician.