Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

^ which always bugs me in a fun way because WHO filmed those images of the Doctor etc. lol

Hmm, perhaps the jagged line is The Master... It was never quite clear what happened to him in End of Time. He wasn't necessarily sucked into oblivion with the rest of the Time Lords. Perhaps he's now existing in a rift in time and space and he's masterminding the whole thing. Quite an elaborate back up plan though...

xpost to myself - later in his life but earlier in her life. Oh, the problems of time travel. Though that can sometimes happen on the High Barnet branch of the Northern Line, too.

also the number 30 bus

Suzy, you have spoilery webmail.

They could have sold me this. Cheers BBC!

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/d11s01/d11s01e01_to_victory.pdf

^^^right next to the Keep Calm and Carry On poster, yes?

I like my spoilery webmail v much, Aldo. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/INdli.jpg

Some of this is awesome.

Finally watched the last episode - really liked it! So many ideas, plot moved kind of ridiculously fast! stuff like the "record" button explaining that Amy just recorded that message now, i mean, damn, I totally missed that. There was so much going on it made the flow of the episode a little off, but I'm with the rest of you who are really into the children's fantasy vibes these two eps have been going with.

All the Who universe callbacks are great, and this reminded me functionally a bit of Eccleston's second episode, the one where a bunch of aliens watch the Earth burn, which also went into explaining a bunch of the new incarnation of the Doctor, last of the Time Lords, fresh companion reactions, so on. That one I think also introduced the "cell phone outside of time".

The fact that it actually led directly into the next story was AWESOME, though I'm not sure exactly why, since it was totally unnecessary.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/josiahrowe/dalektea.jpg

<3 <3 <3

DON'T TELL HIM, PIKE

"would you care for some tea" lol

the orange dalek is my favourite

no matter what else, i love the colours

Nice merchandising guys.

Srsly tho, this series keeps getting better.

Yeah, liked that. Time is defintiely fucked though.

I'm pleased that Moffat is being a lot more explicit about the Grand Finale story arc, actively developing it each week rather than RTD's one cryptic reference and nowt else approach.

where was the crack?

new daleks are too big, too clean, too bright. i liked when they looked like landrovers, not mini coopers.

The colour palette on the Daleks was v. deliberately 50s UK design I thought.

There was a crack in the wall of the War Room, think it was there anyway.

River Song plus Weepy Angels next week I might have to take a sedative for.

The Dalek colour palette was actually very Italian Job.

Yeah, maybe 60s rather than 50s. But deliberately retro, yes.

They zoomed in on the glowing crack as the TARDIS disappeared at the end.

i must've looked away because, yes, it's obvious.

Hmm, maybe the FORGET button has been introduced (and used) before.

I thought the flag shown just before the glowing crack was also hanging in the shape of the crack, but maybe it is me on crack instead

wd not be surprised to learn there were other cracks earlier on too, though

Daleks reminded me of this:

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2006/06/toyota-fj-cruiser.jpg

2000s reinterpretation of a classic design. Whilst i like the idea of all new daleks the episode wasn't as good as the previous ones, can't put my finger on why yet.

I think (but can't remember where I read it) they're supposed to be daleks from DIoE.

episode feels kind of unconnected and weird, dalek "plan" incomprehensible to anyone but rewinders and the hardcore, churchill is basically irrelevant and repeats himself all the time.. only halfway through though because of teething crisis though, maybe it all ties up nicely

it's a gimme to set daleks among the nazi menace - they basically ARE the nazis of the universe right?

http://www.paracosms.dk/wp-content/uploads/EoD4-300x233.jpg

that parallel was none too subtly drawn for the umpteenth time

Rubbish new dalek design imo, basically just gave 'em a fat arse. Enjoyed star wars meets Who meets ww2 though, ludicrous though it was.

The new Daleks were basically about the voice change, I think. They've tried to make them more bad-ass and hence the new butched-up voices. The old skool Daleks can be pretty camp at times, especially when fetching cups of tea and pretending not to know who the Doctor was.

Not brilliant, but it sets up the daleks to just come back whenever, rather than needing to set up a new bunch of hokum every time to explain why.

Think these eps suffer from the opposite of old who, trying to cram too much story in a short time. The Q&A aboard dalek ship where the doctor gets them to explain their plan a dreadful violation of 'show not tell'.

(or just a crap way of telling)

I liked how Amy defused the bomb using Love, but i was hoping she was going to use her kissogram powers to kiss the robot into a human

Not only the Spitfires in space and the Dalek spaceship escaping into hyperspace, but Dr Scots McRobot got his left hand chopped off and replaced with a leather glove.

Chris Hardwicke & John Hodgman's twitter exchange:

Nerdist: Getting ready for small Doctor Who watching party and very happy about it.

Hodgman: @nerdist it may seem like a small party, but it's larger on
the inside.

Though in a way it's undercutting the more emotional moments and character development a little, I do kind of love how these episodes have been like the old Who stories, but sped up to an hour, so it's just non-stop THINGS HAPPENING NOW, NO TIME TO WASTE! Very entertaining, though often going so fast I miss lines or exposition even, need to pause and rewind to catch things. But perhaps better than too much exposition or hand-wringing?

Candy-coated Daleks with new voices, can't really complain. WOULD-YOU-LIKE-SOME-TEA was excellent! Surprised how serious the Doctor's reaction and FINALLY being able to get rid of them once and for all was - with the previous stories (minus the Eccleston "Dalek") it felt like he'd just accepted that they'll always come back again somehow. Wonder if his stressing out over it will come back down the line (and not just in the obvious "Daleks return for the season finale" type deal).

i thought jocular amy was rubbish - i.e. "paisley boy" - she seemed almost like a different character this time around, a gum-crackin back-talkin dame or something which frankly i don't think she pulls off nearly as well as just earnest, confused amy. do not want.

and oh yeah if anyone has the strength to explain to me the reasoning behind how they defused the man-bomb i'd be grateful. totally didn't get it - i thought bracewell was a robot? in that case how could anyone prove he's human in the first place? (obvious visual gag unexploited - low angle shot sees bracewell's crotch pitch a tent as amy leans over him.. the doctor's like "ah. done and dusted")

also, how do we feel about the doctor refusing to save several hundred thousand jewish, gypsy, gay and politically left-wing lives in the concentration camps?

eh, i'll handwave that away with the doctor mostly tries to fix the problems caused by aliens, not by mankind to themselves, and certain events are fixed mumbo jumbo (like when he couldn't stop the aliens causing Vesuvius to erupt)

wisecrackin' Amy made sense to me - since that "12 years!" bit in the premiere, I got the impression she was a bit of a screwball dame, and i wish to see more of it

defused man-bomb was totally silly, basically a parallel of the whole "let's defeat the robot by giving him a logic problem he can't solve!" trope, replacing it with the "if we can convince him he's human / has free will, he can override his PROGRAMMING!" trope. Am too surprised Amy didn't land in with that "kissogram"

oh yeah one last thing - starting to think all those Star Wars rips in the last couple of Tenant episodes were totally intentionally now, like the show's going for more of that kind of action in the fighter scene (i mean, literally WWII in space...)

the iceland volcano definitely seems like it's tied into an as-yet-unwritten doctor who episode

this episode really turned me off amy, i'm not sure why. i feel like she was called on to carry certain emotional aspects of the show, and to do a little comedy, and she mainly substituted facebook pout faces for it

not that i'm, on a certain level, complaining

Too much "Oh we can just happen to save the world" in this one: Bracewell converting Spitfires to fly in space in five minutes, when he's in the Cabinet war rooms, not at an airfield. The Doctor just realising he could appeal to the humanity in Bracewell to defuse the bomb. I know we're not getting realism, but this was just silly and slapdash, after the brilliant set-up.

The Jammie Dodger was a nice idea, to begin with...but man, how long was it dragged out? And why? All it did was buy time, and that time was just spent letting the daleks explain their plan and then execute it.

Yeah, pretty rub ep overall, I thought.

That was no Jammy Dodger.

i;ve been craving fox's jam rings ever since

when will the Daleks stop feeling like they have to tell the Doctor everything?

hoping that Amy's failure to remember the Daleks is entirely do with her and not some 'none of that ever actually happened' reset.

at the end was Bracewell off to become Dorabella's robot lover? ban this sick filth