Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

Yeah, what the hell was that blue mist?? I noticed it, too.

i assumed that was just a clunky directorial choice to emphasize the importance of the 'moment' where they really connect as doctor and companion.

Or maybe Rory is the crack in time... Or maybe he's slipped through the crack from 1990...

Midichlorians?

No, that's what that crap oooh-oooh music is for. It was a line of mist but I'm not going to nerd out and check for the 'crack' aspect by re-watching.

I am glad to have started a trend.

I noticed the blue thing too, but assumed the same as Gubke.

I did notice all the cars being older (specifically the fire engine), and wasn't sure whether the "how do you know it's a duck pond if there's no ducks?" line was a further pointer that not everything was right.

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STUFF THAT FOLLOWS COULD BE CONSIDERED SPOILERY IF YOU CONSIDER TRAILERS BROADCAST ON TELEVISION OR INTERVIEWS WITH THE MOFF TO BE SPOILERY
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The spoilery thing that Moffatt announced before the series started that the 'big bad' for this series was in every episode, plus the spoilery rumour (which I won't reveal) about who/what the 'big bad' actually is, makes a lot of sense based on what we've seen thus far.

One of the big problems I see that he has to write soon is the reappearance of River Song, or rather the event in the forthcoming episode. The easiest way out of it is a bit of handwaving that she sees The Doctor in a different way to everybody else, but it definitely doesn't seem 100% consistent with her first appearance.

Yeah I could never work out quite how River Song recognised Tennant in the last series, and why she didn't seem that thrown by his appearance.

Well it took her awhile to figure it out, didn't it? And once she did she was pretty overwhelmed with emotion IIRC!

(Leading to classic Tennant "Oh you adore me too, huh?" type behavior)

I would like to be directed to both those spoilery things, Aldo.

Well it took her awhile to figure it out, didn't it?

No she seemed to immediately know who he was and was on familiar terms, despite surely knowing that the Tennant Doctor had never met her?

I think "eccentric guy suddenly turns up in place he has no right to be with bemused companion in tow" wd probably be good enough clues for her.

Yeah it's also that it took her quite a while to twig that she'd brought him to the library too early in his life.

Even if Matt Smith is the first doctor she meets, it doesn't preclude her having met the Tennant doctor at a point we did not see on screen, after the library episode but before regeneration.

it was kinda like she'd met or seen Tennant's Doctor before but only briefly. maybe she just recognised him from an image she'd seen of the Doctor's previous incarnations, like the footage they've shown twice now of the Doctor's different faces.

^ which always bugs me in a fun way because WHO filmed those images of the Doctor etc. lol

Hmm, perhaps the jagged line is The Master... It was never quite clear what happened to him in End of Time. He wasn't necessarily sucked into oblivion with the rest of the Time Lords. Perhaps he's now existing in a rift in time and space and he's masterminding the whole thing. Quite an elaborate back up plan though...

xpost to myself - later in his life but earlier in her life. Oh, the problems of time travel. Though that can sometimes happen on the High Barnet branch of the Northern Line, too.

also the number 30 bus

Suzy, you have spoilery webmail.

They could have sold me this. Cheers BBC!

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/d11s01/d11s01e01_to_victory.pdf

^^^right next to the Keep Calm and Carry On poster, yes?

I like my spoilery webmail v much, Aldo. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/INdli.jpg

Some of this is awesome.

Finally watched the last episode - really liked it! So many ideas, plot moved kind of ridiculously fast! stuff like the "record" button explaining that Amy just recorded that message now, i mean, damn, I totally missed that. There was so much going on it made the flow of the episode a little off, but I'm with the rest of you who are really into the children's fantasy vibes these two eps have been going with.

All the Who universe callbacks are great, and this reminded me functionally a bit of Eccleston's second episode, the one where a bunch of aliens watch the Earth burn, which also went into explaining a bunch of the new incarnation of the Doctor, last of the Time Lords, fresh companion reactions, so on. That one I think also introduced the "cell phone outside of time".

The fact that it actually led directly into the next story was AWESOME, though I'm not sure exactly why, since it was totally unnecessary.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/josiahrowe/dalektea.jpg

<3 <3 <3

DON'T TELL HIM, PIKE

"would you care for some tea" lol

the orange dalek is my favourite

no matter what else, i love the colours

Nice merchandising guys.

Srsly tho, this series keeps getting better.

Yeah, liked that. Time is defintiely fucked though.

I'm pleased that Moffat is being a lot more explicit about the Grand Finale story arc, actively developing it each week rather than RTD's one cryptic reference and nowt else approach.

where was the crack?

new daleks are too big, too clean, too bright. i liked when they looked like landrovers, not mini coopers.

The colour palette on the Daleks was v. deliberately 50s UK design I thought.

There was a crack in the wall of the War Room, think it was there anyway.

River Song plus Weepy Angels next week I might have to take a sedative for.

The Dalek colour palette was actually very Italian Job.

Yeah, maybe 60s rather than 50s. But deliberately retro, yes.

They zoomed in on the glowing crack as the TARDIS disappeared at the end.

i must've looked away because, yes, it's obvious.

Hmm, maybe the FORGET button has been introduced (and used) before.

I thought the flag shown just before the glowing crack was also hanging in the shape of the crack, but maybe it is me on crack instead

wd not be surprised to learn there were other cracks earlier on too, though

Daleks reminded me of this:

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2006/06/toyota-fj-cruiser.jpg

2000s reinterpretation of a classic design. Whilst i like the idea of all new daleks the episode wasn't as good as the previous ones, can't put my finger on why yet.

I think (but can't remember where I read it) they're supposed to be daleks from DIoE.

episode feels kind of unconnected and weird, dalek "plan" incomprehensible to anyone but rewinders and the hardcore, churchill is basically irrelevant and repeats himself all the time.. only halfway through though because of teething crisis though, maybe it all ties up nicely

it's a gimme to set daleks among the nazi menace - they basically ARE the nazis of the universe right?

http://www.paracosms.dk/wp-content/uploads/EoD4-300x233.jpg

that parallel was none too subtly drawn for the umpteenth time

Rubbish new dalek design imo, basically just gave 'em a fat arse. Enjoyed star wars meets Who meets ww2 though, ludicrous though it was.

The new Daleks were basically about the voice change, I think. They've tried to make them more bad-ass and hence the new butched-up voices. The old skool Daleks can be pretty camp at times, especially when fetching cups of tea and pretending not to know who the Doctor was.

Not brilliant, but it sets up the daleks to just come back whenever, rather than needing to set up a new bunch of hokum every time to explain why.

Think these eps suffer from the opposite of old who, trying to cram too much story in a short time. The Q&A aboard dalek ship where the doctor gets them to explain their plan a dreadful violation of 'show not tell'.