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I picked up the split 12" with Andrew WK today--found it cheap at a local shop and heard it was out of print, so I figured I'd snatch it up. Not bad stuff at all. Some of it sounds a little tame, and I haven't really sat down and analyzed the lyrics yet...

But it makes me want to pick up more. Probably the "Dread" CD or the "Fuck Pete Larsen" LP since I've seen both of those around and mailorder is a hassle sometimes.

Can anyone tell me what exactly is on the "FPL" LP? I've heard that it's a compilation but what of? Cassette releases? Singles? Comp tracks?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 18 October 2002 20:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

Great great great live show, and I know zilch about their field of clatter...

― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 October 2002 20:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

the FPL LP is just two sides of droning noise - side B is the asscrusher, starting out with some nice shrieking and clattering.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 October 2002 04:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Has anyone heard the two CDs that American Tapes currently has? Interminable Bleeding and Strangulation Tank. I'm a bit wary of ordering them, only because I know nothing about them. I could end up with two hours of crap.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 11 November 2002 15:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

most of the wolf eyes stuff on amtapes is poorly recorded pots and pans banging and synth bleats. and yelling. i'm not insulting it, btw, i really like most of it. american tapes releases are frequently 'mixed' by john olson (ex-universal indians, currently in wolf eyes), which involves an old noisy tape delay, some razor blade editing and letting the tapes marinate in basement filth until they sound like melted flexi discs played at 16 rpm.

there are some really great releases on am tapes (yellow eyes, the universal indians LPs, dr. gretchen's musical weightlifting program) but they can be an endurance test if you're not 'feeling it.'

and if anyone has "thrist of the worm"...i'm up for a trade.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 11 November 2002 23:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Has anyone heard Dead Hills yet? I've seen it at the store and pondered picking it up.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 8 December 2002 16:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well Ian, Dead Hills sounds like some of my unreleased demos in the very extreme parts. There's a lot of quiet parts with a thumpy synth drum sound and lots of echoy noise and MITB-ish vocals. Every song has a thumping slow rhythm. The last song (of three), "Dead Tropics" is probably my favorite.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 22 December 2002 15:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed one of their songs, one of the times I've seen them. Otherwise I don't like them at all. (I seem to have inadvertantly seen them about a half-dozen times.)

― Dave Fischer, Sunday, 22 December 2002 16:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

"dead hills" pretty much sounds like "dread" part 2. long extended instrumental opener that, in my memory at least, features crickets chirping. two shorter songs with vocals a la "dread". running time, 23 minutes. worth every penny.

there was also an american tapes 3" CDR called "dead hills" that seems to bear little (if any) relation to the troubleman release.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 December 2002 00:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

WOLF EYES - mid march to early april, michigan to west coast and back
CAROLINER RAINBOW ... - late march to mid/late april, from CA down
south through mid midwest up to ny back accross north
25 SUAVES - April debating whether to go east or west, best offers
get the tour!
ASHCROFT - msg's band, april west coast

― gygax!, Monday, 6 January 2003 18:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

all the Amtapes stuff is great - my recent favorites are all the Dead Machines cassettes (John with gal pal / Polyamory Records founder Tovah O'Rourke) and the Dead Comet Alive cdr. Best punk label ever? quite possibly...

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes' "Dread" is the perfect soundtrack for a Michigan winter. Whether you're digging a path to your car, driving on ice in a blinding snowstorm, walking against a freezing wind, or wrestling with cabin fever, you'll find that Wolf Eyes fit seamlessly into the moment. Their music paints a picture of a greasy mound of black snow slowly melting on a salt-stained sidewalk.

When the spring begins, and you feel fully awake for the first time in months, and you're walking around in short sleeves reaquainting yourself with leaves and grass and sunlight, then you might want to listen to some different music. Right now, though, "Dread" sounds perfect.

― EC, Thursday, 6 March 2003 06:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

picked up dead hills yesterday and it's reet, very throbbing gristle very bleek and industrial, nice RPG allusions a la every fucking US hardcore group out, nice skull art work reminds me of a skate board i used to have

what label is dread on?

― schnell schnell, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's a split release between Bulb, Hanson and American Tapes. Should still be available. It's a motherfucker.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

I played Wolf Eyes (a tape of a track from 'Dread') for two friends who haven't heard much noise before. We had just smoked a lot of pot. One of them was unable to move and commented that he felt like monkeys were beating his skull in. It was pretty funny.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

the "dread" cd is 'on' bulb. the "dread" lp is 'on' american tapes+hanson, according to the back of it anyway. more interestingly and less pedantically, the LP is being reissued soon for vinylists.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 17:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

PEDANT ALERT: The CD I have has all three labels listed on the back.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 17:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

i have THE LP, damn you! THE ORIGINAL VINYL! MY CRED = UNASSAILABLE.

incidentally, anyone who uses soulseek should look for the live 11.15.01 video and audio by wolf eyes, it's fucking great. as are the two CDRs ("half dogs" aka olson mix and untitled aka dilloway mix) i've seen around.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 17:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

they're on tour:

03/19 Boise, ID
03/20 Seattle, WA @ The Crocodile
03/21 Olympia, WA @ No Exit
03/22 Portland, OR @ Nocturnal
03/23 OFF
03/24 Eugene, OR @ John Henry's Club
03/25 Sacramento, CA @ Espresso Metro
03/26 San Francisco, CA @ Bottom of the Hill
03/27 San Francisco, CA @ Hemlock
03/28 Oakland, CA @ Rockland
03/29 Los Angeles, CA @ The Smell
03/30 San Diego, CA @ The Casbah
03/31 Tucson, AZ @ Solar Culture
04/01 OFF
04/02 OFF
04/03 Kansas City, MO @ Your Face
04/04 St. Louis, MO @ LNAC
04/05 Murfreesboro, TN @ Red Rose Coffee House & Bistro
04/06 Lexington, KY @ Artsplace
04/15 Detroit, MI @ Magic Stick
04/17 Chicago, IL @ Fireside Bowl
04/18 Evanston, IL @ Nevin's Live
04/19 St. Paul, MN @ Macalester College

― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

may i re-emphasize my earlier point (see first response in this thread):

SEE THEM LIVE.

(although I am bummed they played 5 shows in SF in 2001, only 3 this year. :-\ )

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

i'll be at the bottom of the hill show. yes i will

― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

buy Uglied: www.geocities.com/berriesaswell

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

They are not playing NYC, unfortunately.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

they need to come east-coastal. i missed them this past summer at oops.

― marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah, if they had made it to the east coast with caroliner, it would've been a wet dream.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

just saw this today

http://sfbg.com/37/25/art_music_wolf.html

― marcg (marcg), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 19:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

The show I saw of Oops! last summer kinda sucked (well, Wolf Eyes did.) I saw them a bit earlier at The Candle Factory in Providence (with Danse Asshole and Prurient) and they rocked the fuckin house, though.

Dread roolz. Slicer is less intense but also roolz.

― Ian Johnson, Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

the show last night was i.n.t.e.n.s.e.

― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 28 March 2003 07:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Most revived thread ever?

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 28 March 2003 09:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

revive! cos i've been listening to dread & the drumm/dilloway cassette a lot recently, and i've noticed some new (?) tapes on slsk recently (droll vol 12, dead at hemlock sf 3-27-03 etc). so what else is good?

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 04:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

i stand by the wolf eyes "half dogs" and s/t cdrs - one mixed by dilloway, one by olson. and fucking MUGGER kicks your fucking ass.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Dread" is fucking classic! even if only for "burn your house down". I haven't seen them live and it woun't happen any time soon, i'm depressed :(

― Jrvision (visionjr), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 08:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

toby,
i was at that hemlock show, very different from the other 4 shows i've seen. the lights were on, dilloway and olson were laughing almost the whole show. very good, i'll look for it on slsk. the dolphins next to me were eeping in delight!

j0hn dwy3r was next to me talking loudly the entire show about (!!!) himself (!!!) imagine that gee whiz.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dread is a fucking classic album.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes need to get they fool asses back down to Providence--we haven't seen 'em even remotely nearby since Oops! The Tour.

That said, Mugger rules, Dread rules, Slicer is pretty good, and they eat my fucking face live. Today, on my record shopping binge, I might pick up the split LP with Crack: We Are Rock if they still have it at Armageddon.

― Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

(is there a Faxed Head thread?)

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes needs to get they punk asses to the UK. Does anyone like their earlier stuff like the s/t cd on Bulb?

JW if you're searching for old hardcore threads to revive then look hard for the one where Aaron Dilloway himself comes and puts the smackdown on some ILM guy it's funny.

― ss, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

I didn't cast revive thread, this time.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

search: "strangled in filth". runs a wide spectrum. might be my fav....

― marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

faxed head thread?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes needs to get they punk asses to the UK. Does anyone like their earlier stuff like the s/t cd on Bulb?

yes. though it really does seem like john olson joining made them the machine they are today.

JW if you're searching for old hardcore threads to revive then look hard for the one where Aaron Dilloway himself comes and puts the smackdown on some ILM guy it's funny.

the one where he criticizes someone for not listening to to live and shave in LA 'correctly'? that wasn't funny, it was sad.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah, shit like that just reminds me of why i tried to get as far away from hardcore as possible when i left college

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

shit like that just reminds me of you, jess.

(damn I'm mean today)

― hstencil, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 04:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

old dog, new tricks, etc.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 04:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

i saw wolf eyes at a house party in k-town. they just made loud noise.

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 04:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody heard the Mugger thing? I saw Aaron Dilloway last night, but didn't have any money to buy any records from him (he was fucking fantastic, btw).

― hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

i thought it was fucking hilarious

― ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

the show or the record?

― hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha no the thread where aaron dilloway gets all cry-baby about to live and shave. 'mugger' is a monster not to be laughed at!

― ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

uh, okay, I don't remember the thread, but that's cool. TLASILA rules too, btw.

― hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

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just came here to say slicer is awesome

― wilter, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 09:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

duh

― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 13:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

I set up a goodwill purchased receiver/speaker combo to boost my TV and DVD enjoyment and one of the first things I watched was the COVERED IN BUGS DVD. There's a great "rotten tropics" from a basement full of fifteen year olds in Ann Arbor at the end of the compilation segment.

― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 13:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

Saw Wolf Eyes last night and they kinda sucked. All ponderous and glitchy. What happened to the awesome psychedelic sax freakouts I saw support Whitehouse a couple of years ago?

― kraudive, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I really wish bands would keep on making the same records over and over, too, for I am also a predictable, boring, joyless masochist who fears change, and I prefer the music I enjoy to reflect that.

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow

― kraudive, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

now that's bringing your a-game!!! x-post

― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Here we go again...

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, it's the most revived thread ever for a reason

anyway, anybody feel the recentish wolf eyes lp on hospital, always wrong. i didn't, but am curious abt others' reactions. way too one-dimensionally shrill and grating for me, with none of the murky, gooey, tarpit throb that used to hold down the shriek & clatter. for some reason, i'm inclined to blame the shift on dominic fernow, as it sounds like a prurient-approved version of the band. honestly tho, i haven't liked much (any?) of the post dillo stuff.

― the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

I enjoy the emphasis on Nate's vocals - I like them higher in the mix. It's sort of a different band now, I agree (not a bad thing), but when I saw them a few months ago they were as murky, deranged and fucked up as ever.

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, they've remained very satisfying live, though it's been a while since i last saw em. and i love the emphasis on vocals and clearly structured songs, just wish the whole thing were recorded a little differently. total inversion of my reaction to my favorite WE records, which sound amazing and inviting, regardless of how unstructured and supposedly "harsh" the music is.

― the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Interviewing Nate Young tomorrow night - anyone got any questions for him?

― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't have any questions but tell him his recent solo albums RULE

― shabba lambides (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

The show itself was pretty awesome (nice 'n' subdued atmospherics w/harmonica + wah-wah wig out) and he's an exceptionally good interviewee. Swell guy as well.

― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

One man thread revival continues. Here's my review of the show if anyone's interested - I'd never been to a gig of this kind, let alone written about one, so any advice/feedback would be really welcome:

http://crackmagazine.net//article/648/nate-young/

― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 20 April 2012 10:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sounds like a good night. Have you heard the Stare Case record?

― Trip Maker, Friday, 20 April 2012 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

FINAL thread revival: the one and only Experimedia have run with my interview and it's the first they've ever published so i'm rather proud. enjoy:

http://experimedia.tumblr.com/post/22254606220/nateyounginterview

― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cool interview. I should've told you to ask him what that sound is that appears on most of his albums.

― C.C. Sabbathian of the Doom York Yankees (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 3 May 2012 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://noise-park.tumblr.com/post/21811256238/john-olson

― sarahell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

new wolf eyes

― scott seward, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/advance/59-no-answer/

― scott seward, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:36 (2 months ago) Permalink

been totally digging wolf eyes the last couple of days. they sound better than ever to me. the old stuff. sounds more CURRENT to me than it did at the turn of the century. for some reason. really appreciate the old stuff more now than i did at the time.

― scott seward, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

they are really really good.

― Heyman (crüt), Monday, 1 April 2013 18:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

Oh he'll yes

― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

Always Wrong didn't do anything for me, Human Animal was the shit

― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

New one pretty tasty at first blush.

― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 05:23 (2 months ago) Permalink

Courtney Love CobainVerified account
‏@Courtney
@pitchforkmedia wait so Wolf Eyes is the most important band of the last 20 years ? lets got to my local bar and duke this out

― The description of my page is: Gargoyles Swimsuit Special (Matt P), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 17:19 (2 months ago) Permalink

no let's go to MY local bar, bitch.

― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 17:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

Nate Young via Aaron Dilloway
HA too funny! 16 years ago WE banned her from our gigs, and she finally wants to fight

― The description of my page is: Gargoyles Swimsuit Special (Matt P), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

i want wolf eyes vs. courtney love storytime

― The description of my page is: Gargoyles Swimsuit Special (Matt P), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

i thought the bump would've been for the wolf eyes rider from 15 years ago: http://swezlex.com/woofpies/jsdemands.html

― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

Always Wrong didn't do anything for me, Human Animal was the shit

also w/ ss. been having a reappreciation sesh over the past few weeks, and the early stuff (slicer thru burned mind or thereabouts) still sounds great. especially enjoying the more ambient long-format stuff, live tracks, etc.

― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

yeah, these guys were pretty much one of the best things going until Aaron Dilloway left. Human Animal was the last thing he worked on and it's a total decline from there imo.

― circa1916, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah new one is dope in a Slicer way at points

― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 04:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

xxp - holy shit! that is my sometime bandmate's website! </pvmic>

― You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 04:57 (2 months ago) Permalink

anybody seen them recently? any good?

― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 10:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

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