Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

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I only know that Easley song they play on the Saturday afternoon WPFW 89.3 radio show, but it's a good one. I'm gonna use this thread as the all-purpose thread for soul and candy-licker style soul.

So I failed to mention above that at that 70s Soul Jam event at Constitution Hall in DC, me and the gf were like 2 of the 5 white people there in a crowd of 3,000 age 45 and up black people. I figured that 30 years after their prime the Stylistics would appeal to oh, non-music fanatic regular joe white folks who listen to Motown, but I guess not. It was a pretty pricey ticket. Who cares, I guess. Ted Mills and the current version of the Stylistics sounded great(beautiful falsettos), and I love that in unison choreographed footwork and hand motion dancing.

steve-k (Steve K), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

bump

steve-k (Steve K), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I finally picked up the latest Denise Lasalle. While a tad predictable, it's pretty nice.

Steve K (Steve K), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Somebody please YSI this "Stand Up In It" song.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Audio CD (March 30, 2004)

Original Release Date: March 30, 2004

Label: Ifgam Records

steve-k, Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Amazon US has a sample...

steve-k, Sunday, 24 April 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

bump.

I can't seem to get the Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings supporters(M. Matos, D. Wolk, others) to bite at any of this stuff.

I guess I need to get hish-speed internet and start posting mp3s and yousendit stuff.

steve-k, Monday, 25 April 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Part-time freelancer me's gotta find the time to write about this stuff, since the fulltimers don't seem to know about it, or care.

steve-k, Monday, 25 April 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw the Dells and Bobby Womack Friday night at the Showplace Arena in Maryland, near DC. I got there late and unfortunately missed the Intruders("Cowboys to Girls") and most of Heatwave. There were about 2,500 people there. Other than one 20-something white guy with a black date, I was the only other non-African American in the crowd. I continue to find this odd (see my post above about the crowd at the 70s Soul Jam). The Dells were very good, if not quite as great as when I saw them years ago at Carter Barron in D.C.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

From Monday May 9th Washington Post Style C5 (washingtonpost.com)

The Dells have been around a long, long time. While many acts on the oldies circuit are lucky to have one original member, the Dells have four and haven't had a membership change since 1960. Friday night at the Showplace Arena in Upper Marlboro, this soul harmony quintet, formed in 1953, exhibited the chemistry that comes from being together for decades.

Emphasizing their R&B hits from the late '60s and early '70s, baritone Marvin Junior and falsetto/tenor Johnny Carter exchanged leads, supported by the shared notes of the three other members and the sweet tones of their horns- and piano-led big band. Like veteran basketball stars, these inductees of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame no longer dazzle at will, but their skills remain at a high level and they can turn on that special magic periodically.

On "The Love We Had (Stays on My Mind)," Junior shifted on a dime from breathy whisper to powerhouse gospel-rooted cry in a manner that was stunning both technically and emotionally. "Stay in My Corner" showcased Carter's still-amazing ability in the high range. These hits also demonstrated Carter and Junior's gymnastic abilities to stretch out notes, and the rest of the combo's exquisite tunefulness.

Opener Bobby Womack has had quite a musical life -- teenage gospel singer, guitarist with Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett and Sly Stone, pal of the Rolling Stones and successful solo artist off and on from the '60s through the '80s. Unfortunately, he left the strumming to a band mate, and either rushed through his hits or languidly lagged behind the beat. His voice retains a distinctive bittersweet feel, but his renditions of "Across 110th Street," "Harry Hippie" and "If You Think You're Lonely Now" lacked the melancholy passion of his studio versions.


-- Steve Kiviat

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like "Grown Folks Party" by the Problem Solvas (I think). It's driving r and b/soul w/ a small touch of blues. It's getting radio airplay in the states from the same folks who play Theodis Easley. It has a synth on it. It's not going for that Sharon Jones retro thing, though it is retro in its own way.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
revive.

Saturday afternoon the Gator on WPFW 89.3 in DC (and online when it is working) keeps playing great new double-entendre filled Souterhn soul.

Also, I finally got the new Bettye LaVette--I've Got My Own Hell to Raise, and am impressed. I was worried that the Joe Henry production and the choice of songs (non-soul women country and folkies plus Fiona Apple & Sinead O'Connor) would be too 'tasteful', but it is not.

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Lavette's gonna be at the State Theatre in Falls Church, outside DC on Thursday, and Aaron Neville's gonna be at the Birchmere in Alexandria, Virginia that night. Sadly, I can not make either event.

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

http://soulandbluesreport.com/SouthernSoulChart.html
1
Can't Nobody Do Me
Lenny Williams
Universal

3
2
Going Crazy
Willie Clayton
Malaco

2
3
Stroke It Easy
Tazz
Mardi Gras

6
4
The Blacker The Berry
Chairman OTB
Surfside

5
5
Inseparable
Lorenzo Owens
B-Town

4
6
Dance Like You're Naked
Lee Fields
BDA

9
7
Ease On Down In The Bed
Lee Shot Williams
Ecko

7
8
Baby, I've Changed
Floyd Taylor
Malaco

8
9
Ten Toes Up
J Diamond Washington
2Brothers

10
10
Cheating & Lying
T. K. Soul
Soulful

The Top 25 Chart is calculated on a formula based on reports from our reporting panel of Radio Stations, Clubs, & Retail Stores

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
The Gator on WPFW 89.3 (Pacifica station that is also online) just played "Slap That Booty" by Gary Brown and "Junk in the Crunk" by David Brinston. Raunchy great recent stuff that gets no UK or US media attention outside of some obscure newsletters and Southern US radio stations.

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

More Gator faves:

3. Big G Stomp, Big G
CD: Love on the Run, Bigsounds.com

4. Same Girl, Hardway Connection
CD: Hot Ticket, WILBE Records

5. Come On and Dance With Me, Hardway Connection
CD: Hot Ticket, WILBE Records

6. Brand New Dance, Jesse Yawn
CD: Forever More, Houseday Music

7. Hootchie Dance, Barbara Carr
CD: Stroke It, ECKO Records

8. I Came to Party, Monique Ford
CD: Get a Maid, Total Smash Music

9. The After Party, Gridloc Band
CD: Gridloc Band, (301)808-7272

10. Sweet Man of Mine, E.C. Scott
CD: Hard Act to Follow, Blind Pig Records

11.Was It Me, Big G
CD: Love on the Run, BigSounds.com, (804)615-2196

12. Touching Me, Lynn White
CD: Touching Me, (901)398-4948

13. Live in Freak, Jim Bennett & Lady Mary & the Unique Creation Band
CD: One More Go Round, (301)753-4335

14. A Woman Needs Money, Denise LaSalle
CD: Wanted, ECKO Records

15. I Don’t Come Cheap, Jim Bennett & Lady Mary & the Unique Creation Band
CD: One More Go Round, (301)753-4335

curmudgeon (Steve K), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

D.J. Freight Train also plays this stuff:

http://freighttrainsblockparty.com/index.html

Also I see that it was Carl Marshall, not the Problem Solvas, who did "Ain't No Party(Like a Grown Folks Party)" It came out in Nov. '04 on his Takin it to a higher level cd

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't like that Lavette album. sounds like they threw her into a phone booth for some sorta cut-rate rick rubin vibe. at least they didn't have her cover marilyn manson.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been having a good time listening to all the ichiban records i bought from 1990/1992. some are great. some are bad. some are soul. some are blues. all very local and downhome. sorry, not recent. but they fit this thread. records by:

pic & bill
lv johnson
yvonne jackson
clarence carter
travis haddix
legendary blues band
john mooney
backtrack blues band
raful neil
bob margolin
troy turner
johnny sansone
the dells
artie "blues boy" white
roshell anderson
chick willis
charles wilson
nappy brown
trudy lynn
jerry mccain
dicky williams
joe beard
tommy tate
ruby andrews
prince philip mitchell
tom principato
smokehouse
drink small
noble "thin man" watts
gary b.b.coleman
david dee
sonny rhodes


scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Scott, I've liked the Chick Willis stuff I've heard. Have you checked out the record you got by him?

Also, I think the below is the link for an online station that streams current Southern double-entendre filled soul

http://alldownsouth.tripod.com/

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

At soulandbluesreport.com

The 4th Annual Best Southern Soul

Please Vote For Your Favorite Southern Soul Performers Of The Year

Vote On Our Special Page ... The Funky's 2005 ... Results Announced Jan 16, 2006,

Vote Often


I like the "vote often"

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought I'd hate the Lavette because of the approach taken--have her sing lots of songs by middlebrow performers popular with NPR listeners(Rick Rubin and Joe Henry)--but I still do like it. The press kit with the release says she picked the songs from a selection provided by her hubby and the folks at Anti(who did the same with Solomon Burke). I want to check out her release from a few years ago and see how she sounds on that.

She gets virtually no airplay on the soul radio show in DC.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I do not know if producers Rubin and Henry listen to NPR, but their approach generates NPR attention is what I mean! But as I said upthread I think Lavette's voice cuts through no matter what, and I bet the Southern soul stations who like the raw double-entendre stuff might like it if Anti was smart enough to market it to them as well.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.soulandbluesreport.com/Page4.html

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Still no articles by Harvell, Finney, or Sherburne on contemporary Southern Soul in Pitchfork!

The SOULANDBLUESREPORT TOP 25
May 19, 2006 http://www.soulandbluesreport.com/top%2025.html


Mel Waiters
Willie Clayton
Bobby Rush
Vick Allen
J Blackfoot
Renea Mitchell
Sir Charles Jones
Lenny Williams
Donnie Ray
Ms. Monique
Carl Simms
Floyd Taylor
Team Airplay All Stars
Chairmen Of The Board
Lorraine Turner
Miz B
Wendell B.
Ms. Jody
Sheba Potts-Wright
Lacee'
Lorraine Turner
William Bell
Theodis Ealey
Bob Steele
Chairmen Of The Board
NEW SOUTHERN SOUL THIS WEEK
SBR's Top 25 Is Calculated On Reports From Our Panel Of Radio Stations,Clubs, & Syndicated Shows

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got Marvin Sease's 2005 Malaco effort-Live with the Candy Licker. His schtick (spelling?) is kinda tired, but he's got a nice church-groomed timbre and a solid horns and more band with him. He's gonna be performing with Chick "Stoop Down Baby" Willis, Roy C., Jim Bennett & Lady Mary, and Floyd Haywood (once with the Hardway Connection)at Lamonts in Pomonkey, Maryland, south of DC on Saturday June 10th.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I missed Captain Fly’s DC Soul revue at Carter Barron tonight(see the writeup in the Washington Post weekend section by Richard Harrington). In recent weeks I missed Eddie & Denise with Theotis Easley at Lamont’s, I missed Marvin the Candylicker Sease at Lamonts. I missed Gator Day at Lamonts. Work and life are getting in the way of chitlin circuit soul.

So on Saturday July 15th Denise Lasalle is at Lamonts, and Captain Fly has a revue that night at Fort Dupont Park:
WPFW Night "D.C. Juke Box Review" featuring Al Johnson, William
DeVaughn, Sir Joe Quarterman, Mark Green & Captain Fly & Friends.
Opening: Hardway Connection

I need to try to make one of these events, or surely, I will be kicked out of the blue-eyed soul club.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 1 July 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
So the Denise Lasalle show got postponed to today, and I'm gonna miss it. For shame. Just heard her song "Dirty Old Woman" on WPFW 89.3 (and online). Lee Fields, who's been in Europe for awhile, is back and he's performing there as well.

I picked up the recent Mel Waiters cd. Not bad.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 26 August 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
The Waiters cd is actually really nice.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

lotsa stuff from rolling country thread, earlier this year:

Listening to a pile of Southern soul discovered via CD-baby channels. The album by a jowly guy named Jimmy Taylor leans toward the blues end of things (with lady backup vocals not far from the ones on last year's Bobby Bare album); the EP by the lady named Candis Palmer ("All Men Ain't Dawgs,* since some are electric boogie dawgs apparently) leans toward the disco end; the single by Harold, "Chill Step Party," is steppin' music. He mentions Milwaukee, Chitown, Harlem, and Atlanta in it. More fun than R. Kelly, as far as I'm concerned, but mainly all this stuff obviously has a connection to county music too. (and though candis palmer is happy to have found a man who is not a dawg, jimmy taylor insists that when women say they're looking for a good man, they're lying. really, he says, they're looking for a fool.) (apparently the kinda fool who will let her spend all his money.) (he also directly quotes zz hill's "cheating in the next room in one of his songs.) (he's from alabama; I don't know where candis or harold are from. they're not actually on cdbaby.com per se, but i was sent their cds in the same package that the jimmy taylor CD came in.) jimmy taylor on his album is totally paranoid, and in just about every song he's either cheating or being cheated on or both, and as i said, he seems fully convinced that his woman is going to put him in the poor house (where, in real life, for all i know, he may already be.) in "you're busted" he hires a private detective to follow her around, and gets a photo of her cheating. "love catcher" has a pretty good sax solo. and though some songs sound more blues to me than soul, a couple (like "all i want is you") still veer more toward disco than anybody in country music has, i think, even shannon brown on her new album.
candis palmer, as i said, gets even more disco, but her disco is maybe 1975 where taylor's is 1973. (i think i wrote on the '05 thread that shannon brown's disco sounded 1979, but maybe that was hyperbole; i'm not sure. these two soul singers FEEL more disco.) but even at her most disco, in a song called "don't let someone else come and jingle my bell" or something, palmer gets backed by HARD blues guitar riffs, so the music really rocks. if i had to compare her vocal style to anybody, it'd be the staple singers in "i'll take you there."

-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 28th, 2006


glamorous bertha payne, *bedroom offer* EP: southern country soul millie jackson style (i.e., as many parts talked as sung, many of 'em bawdy), from memphis, via cdbaby.com. starts with a good riddance song where glamorous bertha (who on the cd cover is a big girl in her red dress with a red glass of wine) tells you "i don't need your face in my face" so "go away like a bad day" and "you might as well pack your rags." then the title track, which is not about her bedroom offer to him but the other way around, which offer she says isn't enough and the two backup singers (favorite artists: denise lasalle, mary j blige) chorus "bang! bang!" but by song's end glamorous bertha is saying "i need a man who will love me all night long. are you qualified? if not, get off the pot!" then one where she promises to shake it and break it (and maybe hang it on the wall) and she tells "all you womens with big elephant ears" that with her man every day is pay day. then supposedly "part two" of the same song, which means same slinky rhythm track as part one but now with sexy breathy pillow talk all over the top where bertha tells you to lift up her skirt. then finally another good riddance song, this one a tough and funky blues, where he leaves her with a sink full of dishes in a "one-room [some word i can't make out]", hence the best dishwashing song since ray parker jr's "bad boy" if not anita ward's "ring my bell." also she brings him food in bed, which means this might also be a breakfast breakup song in the tradition of the 5th dimension's "one less bell to answer" and karyn white's "superwoman." five songs total, but two around 4:00, three around 4:25, which means glamorous bertha takes her time and surely deserves a lover with a slow hand.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), February 23rd, 2006.

the legendary moody scott, *simply moody: we gotta bust outta the ghetto*: more cdbaby southern soul, from louisiana. cover has moody, a dapper old guy seemingly in his 60s, in front of a rundown rural shack; interesting, since "ghettos" are usually assumed to be urban, right? first track "bustin out of the ghetto" is a sort of james brown rip, five minutes long, where moody as i recall reels off some towns in the south train conducter style (am i imagining this? i THINK he did that, anyway) and ends singing "america america god grant his grace on thee." then he covers tyrone davis's great "can i change my mind," my favorite track. and from there the more soul oriented stuff ("last two dollars," the misspelled cheated-on song "one man's hppiness" which for some reason makes me think of billy stewart sitting in the park even though billy had a high voice and moody really doesn't, "something you got baby") is more likeable, to me, than the more blatantly blues stuff, but then again i always think that. both the soul and blues are generic, i suppose; with the soul i don't mind. best song title: "annie mae cafe." and the closer "son of a southern man" starts with moody telling his guitarist "tattoo" suarez ("my man from argentina") about his grandpa drinking corn liquor and singing "downhome blues". so yeah, country for sure.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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He does get urban and/or urbane once, though -- a nice slinky silk-shirt early '80s style quiet storm soul croon called "The Best of Me." (Not sure if any songs other than the Tyrone Davis are covers. "Last Two Dollars" and "Annie Mae Cafe" are writing-credited to one George Jackson; wasn't there a soul singer of that name once? But if so, I never heard him, though.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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"something you got baby" wouldn't be chris kenner's "something you got" would it? since moody's from louisiana...and yeah, george jackson (I'm assuming it's the same guy--I don't know "annie mae cafe") wrote z.z. hill's "down home blues" and a lot of stuff for candi staton, clarence carter, pickett, james carr; a memphis guy who later worked for malaco and wrote for all them: johnnie taylor, latimore, shirley brown, bobby bland...
enjoying jace everett, so far. it's quite a collection of somewhat off-the-wall guitar effects, interesting guitar chromatics (as in the first song), definitely a '70s pop thing happening; and in my mode of concurrent listening (lately it's been dusty springfield/the latest numero group comp of obscure '70s female singers/the new, beautiful nara leão bossa "nara '67"; and jace/radney foster/jessi colter, partly because they all have cool first names, I guess) I notice that both radney and jace hark back to stiff records, which I find interesting.

xps

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 11th, 2006.

George Jackson was an occasional great old soul singer on Goldwax then Hi, and kind of a house writer at both. I'll try to remember tomorrow (just in from a party, and why I'm doing this rather than going straight to bet I've no idea) to YSI his absolutely magnificent Aretha, Sing One For Me. He was among the greatest writers in southern soul - he wrote for Ann Peebles, O.V. Wright, Otis Clay, James Carr, Clarence Carter, Etta James, Denise LaSalle, Wilson Pickett, Candi Staton and even wrote the Osmonds' first hit!
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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if I'm not mistaken, Alvin Robinson recorded for AFO (All for One), a New Orleans label of the '60s that Harold Battiste started; house band included Toussaint and Red Tyler. And he had a hit with Kenner's "Something You Got" (which was later covered by lots of folks, including Bobby Womack, who did a reggae remake on his "Safety Zone" LP in the mid-'70s. Alvin Robinson also recorded for Leiber and Stoller at Red Bird in New York, and did a real classic called "Down Home Girl."
I gotta get that Moody Scott record.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.

That YSI:
George Jackson - Aretha, Sing One For Me
It'd be in my top 100 favourite singles ever, I think.

-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I gotta get that Moody Scott record.<
I have an extra copy, Edd! I'll send it to you.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.


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great! thanks Chuck!

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I don't know anything much about Moody Scott, just a handful of tracks, <
So Martin, did Moody have regional hits or something? I never heard of him before I saw his cdbaby page, and haven't really taken time to research him. I'm surprised you even heard of him!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.

I don't know, Chuck, but bear in mind that I've been a huge fan of soul for a long time, and do know quite a lot about it (though not as much as Eddie, I'm pretty sure). The odd track does get on compilations of one sort or another, which suggests that Moody isn't incredibly obscure - but I don't even know exactly where he worked or anything, so he isn't famous either, clearly.
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.

also really liking irma thomas's *after the rain* on rounder, the "rain" obviously being katrina, though i kind of hate the mooshy shelter-from-storm piano ballad the album ends with though i do hope it provides solace to new orleans. what i love so far is "flowers" (soul about flowers on roadsides after car crashes, with a sound that i swear reminds me of "uncle tom's cabin" by warrant), "make me a pallet on the floor" (cheating with a painter, wow), "till i can't take it anymore" (country music in a soul voice, about how "you work your thing so well/I dream of heaven and live here in hell"), "these honey dos" (vampy bawdy boogie woogie where the honey dos are at first temptations but wind up also being about manners like please and thank you), and "stone survivor" (which is just plain funky).

-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

And Irma also does an extremely gorgeous version of "I Count the Tears" (the "na-na-na-na-na-na late at night" song) by the Drifters..
-- xhxuk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.


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And she also does "Another Man Done Gone," a trad blues tune I swear I've heard hundreds of times by some huge classic rock group (Creem? Zep? the Allmans? somebody...), though no classic rock groups seem to be listed on AMG as doing it, so maybe whoever did it (which will probably hit me as really obvious once I found out) did it under a different title or something, or maybe with different words? (Also, I'm thinking now that maybe "These Honey Dos" and "Stone Survivor" and the palette one aren't quite at the level of the Warrant one and the country one and the Drifters one, but they're close.) -- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

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also liking (speaking of southern soul) *candy licker: the sex & soul of marvin sease* (jive/legacy) not all of which concerns muff diving, and at least "hoochie mama" of which has zapp-style robot-funk freakazoids reciting the names of several of the united states.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 12th, 2006.

*Most of the Marvin Sease album is gloppy ballads which aren't all that good, but some of it is kinda fun. (The first track is awful though.)

-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 13th, 2006.


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Marvin Sease CD is way less gloppy and ballady than Matt suggests (or maybe I just have a higher glop tolerance than he does; see also the Alan Bros!); most of it gets a good '70s smooth-jazzy funk disco groove going. And lots of the songs have pre-old-school "raps" (i.e., talking as singing, sometimes like a preacher's sermon) in them, which are really fun. And sure, the opening track "Do You Want a Licker?" is awful if you want it to be, but it's just too silly to complain about; ditto the other bookend, a five-minute live "Candy Licker 2005." Also, the ballads are pretty good, for the most part. "Don't Forget to Tell On You" sounds kind of like "Tell it Like It Is." But my favorite cuts are probably "I'm Mr Jody," the backdoor man song that starts with an ominous phone call, and the 12-step fix-your-life number "I Gotta Clean Up." (Has anybody ever written a good essay about Jody? He's the guy back on the block who's having sex to your girl while you're in the Army, and I get the idea he shows up in lots of Southern soul songs: Doesn't Johnnie Taylor have one about him, too*? As do, I would assume, other folks.)

* - yep, I just checked Whitburn: "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone," went to number 28 in 1971. (Hey, sounds like a good EMP proposal!)

-- xhuxk (xhux...), June 14th, 2006.


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having sex WITH (or) making love TO.
and courtesy of HIS new truck.
).

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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Johnnie Taylor was the king of Jody songs. "Standing In for Jody" and "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone" are just two; I mean every song he does is kind of about Jody-ism in some way or another. I am a nut for Johnnie Taylor (I like Johnny Taylor a lot, too, and Ted Taylor, the Louisiana soul singer, is also excellent--so I think an EMP paper on the Sooper Taylors would be good!!), and Taylor is also the king of fucking-around songs. There are these nifty new Stax reissues that includes stuff by Frederick Knight, the Dramatics, etc., and if you ask me one of the very best Stax albums-as-albums is Johnnie's "Who's Making Love," which is the typical collection of singles but which really has variety and which totally hangs together. "Hold On This Time" has a great Cropper riff, cubist guitar, and "Woman Across the River" is one of the best Stax blues ever.
I only know the older, cunnilingual and happy to oblige, ma'am, Marvin Sease stuff--he's really good. "Marvin Sease" on London from late '80s is a good 'un. One of those artists who've been working the I-55 corridor from Memphis to the Louisiana border, forever.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), June 14th, 2006.


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Well, a Taylors EMP report would probably be really interesting, but I was thinking (theoretically, not volunteering!) more in terms of one about Jody himself. Who was he? And how far back do Jody songs go? Did Johnnie Taylor invent them? Or does Jody show up in blue songs during World War II or something? Was he a real person, like maybe Stagger Lee? (Was Shine who swam the Titanic a real person? I forget.) Seems like real *Mystery Train* mythology stuff, and I'm surprised nobody has tackled the research (unless they have and I just didn't notice, which is very possible. I haven't even done a google search.) (Also, do I only associate Jody with making cuckolds of military guys stationed overseas because I was *in* the military, and he was always showing up in cadences used while marching and/or running? Or is that his main deal? And otherwise, to what extent if any does he exist outside of the culture of Southern blacks--who, when I was in, seemed to make up a sizable portion of the Army?)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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This could really be hella interesting, absolutely. Is "Trapped in the Closet" the Ulysses of Jody songs?
-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 14th, 2006.

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Here's some info I found while googling Jody songs:
http://soulfuldetroit.com/archives/10238/9918.html?1079610632

-- Sang Freud (jstrell...), June 14th, 2006.


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x-post. Taylor didn't invent the Jody song. Jody / Jodie / Joe the Grinder are pretty common figures in blues tunes.There's Louis Armstrong's "Jodie Man" which makes the "GI Joe de man" connection explicit. I wouldn't be surprised if that military connection is at the origin, though it's obviously gone through lots of transformations.
-- Roy Kasten (rfkaste...), June 14th, 2006.


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Yeah, I'd forgotten Joe The Grinder. I used to own a copy of that *Get Your Ass in the Water and Swim Like Me* prison-rap comp (on Smithsonian or Rounder or something?), and I think there might even be a Joe the Grinder rhyme on there (I *may* even have mentioned it in the pre-rap rap chapter of my second book). Anyway, this link from the link above has great stuff about Jody Army cadences; also says Johnnie Taylor himself learned about Jody while in the military:
http://p211.ezboard.com/fwordoriginsorgfrm4.showMessage?topicID=153.topic

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

lotsa stuff from rolling country thread, earlier this year:

Listening to a pile of Southern soul discovered via CD-baby channels. The album by a jowly guy named Jimmy Taylor leans toward the blues end of things (with lady backup vocals not far from the ones on last year's Bobby Bare album); the EP by the lady named Candis Palmer ("All Men Ain't Dawgs,* since some are electric boogie dawgs apparently) leans toward the disco end; the single by Harold, "Chill Step Party," is steppin' music. He mentions Milwaukee, Chitown, Harlem, and Atlanta in it. More fun than R. Kelly, as far as I'm concerned, but mainly all this stuff obviously has a connection to county music too. (and though candis palmer is happy to have found a man who is not a dawg, jimmy taylor insists that when women say they're looking for a good man, they're lying. really, he says, they're looking for a fool.) (apparently the kinda fool who will let her spend all his money.) (he also directly quotes zz hill's "cheating in the next room in one of his songs.) (he's from alabama; I don't know where candis or harold are from. they're not actually on cdbaby.com per se, but i was sent their cds in the same package that the jimmy taylor CD came in.) jimmy taylor on his album is totally paranoid, and in just about every song he's either cheating or being cheated on or both, and as i said, he seems fully convinced that his woman is going to put him in the poor house (where, in real life, for all i know, he may already be.) in "you're busted" he hires a private detective to follow her around, and gets a photo of her cheating. "love catcher" has a pretty good sax solo. and though some songs sound more blues to me than soul, a couple (like "all i want is you") still veer more toward disco than anybody in country music has, i think, even shannon brown on her new album.
candis palmer, as i said, gets even more disco, but her disco is maybe 1975 where taylor's is 1973. (i think i wrote on the '05 thread that shannon brown's disco sounded 1979, but maybe that was hyperbole; i'm not sure. these two soul singers FEEL more disco.) but even at her most disco, in a song called "don't let someone else come and jingle my bell" or something, palmer gets backed by HARD blues guitar riffs, so the music really rocks. if i had to compare her vocal style to anybody, it'd be the staple singers in "i'll take you there."

-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 28th, 2006


glamorous bertha payne, *bedroom offer* EP: southern country soul millie jackson style (i.e., as many parts talked as sung, many of 'em bawdy), from memphis, via cdbaby.com. starts with a good riddance song where glamorous bertha (who on the cd cover is a big girl in her red dress with a red glass of wine) tells you "i don't need your face in my face" so "go away like a bad day" and "you might as well pack your rags." then the title track, which is not about her bedroom offer to him but the other way around, which offer she says isn't enough and the two backup singers (favorite artists: denise lasalle, mary j blige) chorus "bang! bang!" but by song's end glamorous bertha is saying "i need a man who will love me all night long. are you qualified? if not, get off the pot!" then one where she promises to shake it and break it (and maybe hang it on the wall) and she tells "all you womens with big elephant ears" that with her man every day is pay day. then supposedly "part two" of the same song, which means same slinky rhythm track as part one but now with sexy breathy pillow talk all over the top where bertha tells you to lift up her skirt. then finally another good riddance song, this one a tough and funky blues, where he leaves her with a sink full of dishes in a "one-room [some word i can't make out]", hence the best dishwashing song since ray parker jr's "bad boy" if not anita ward's "ring my bell." also she brings him food in bed, which means this might also be a breakfast breakup song in the tradition of the 5th dimension's "one less bell to answer" and karyn white's "superwoman." five songs total, but two around 4:00, three around 4:25, which means glamorous bertha takes her time and surely deserves a lover with a slow hand.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), February 23rd, 2006.

the legendary moody scott, *simply moody: we gotta bust outta the ghetto*: more cdbaby southern soul, from louisiana. cover has moody, a dapper old guy seemingly in his 60s, in front of a rundown rural shack; interesting, since "ghettos" are usually assumed to be urban, right? first track "bustin out of the ghetto" is a sort of james brown rip, five minutes long, where moody as i recall reels off some towns in the south train conducter style (am i imagining this? i THINK he did that, anyway) and ends singing "america america god grant his grace on thee." then he covers tyrone davis's great "can i change my mind," my favorite track. and from there the more soul oriented stuff ("last two dollars," the misspelled cheated-on song "one man's hppiness" which for some reason makes me think of billy stewart sitting in the park even though billy had a high voice and moody really doesn't, "something you got baby") is more likeable, to me, than the more blatantly blues stuff, but then again i always think that. both the soul and blues are generic, i suppose; with the soul i don't mind. best song title: "annie mae cafe." and the closer "son of a southern man" starts with moody telling his guitarist "tattoo" suarez ("my man from argentina") about his grandpa drinking corn liquor and singing "downhome blues". so yeah, country for sure.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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He does get urban and/or urbane once, though -- a nice slinky silk-shirt early '80s style quiet storm soul croon called "The Best of Me." (Not sure if any songs other than the Tyrone Davis are covers. "Last Two Dollars" and "Annie Mae Cafe" are writing-credited to one George Jackson; wasn't there a soul singer of that name once? But if so, I never heard him, though.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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"something you got baby" wouldn't be chris kenner's "something you got" would it? since moody's from louisiana...and yeah, george jackson (I'm assuming it's the same guy--I don't know "annie mae cafe") wrote z.z. hill's "down home blues" and a lot of stuff for candi staton, clarence carter, pickett, james carr; a memphis guy who later worked for malaco and wrote for all them: johnnie taylor, latimore, shirley brown, bobby bland...
enjoying jace everett, so far. it's quite a collection of somewhat off-the-wall guitar effects, interesting guitar chromatics (as in the first song), definitely a '70s pop thing happening; and in my mode of concurrent listening (lately it's been dusty springfield/the latest numero group comp of obscure '70s female singers/the new, beautiful nara leão bossa "nara '67"; and jace/radney foster/jessi colter, partly because they all have cool first names, I guess) I notice that both radney and jace hark back to stiff records, which I find interesting.

xps

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 11th, 2006.

George Jackson was an occasional great old soul singer on Goldwax then Hi, and kind of a house writer at both. I'll try to remember tomorrow (just in from a party, and why I'm doing this rather than going straight to bet I've no idea) to YSI his absolutely magnificent Aretha, Sing One For Me. He was among the greatest writers in southern soul - he wrote for Ann Peebles, O.V. Wright, Otis Clay, James Carr, Clarence Carter, Etta James, Denise LaSalle, Wilson Pickett, Candi Staton and even wrote the Osmonds' first hit!
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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if I'm not mistaken, Alvin Robinson recorded for AFO (All for One), a New Orleans label of the '60s that Harold Battiste started; house band included Toussaint and Red Tyler. And he had a hit with Kenner's "Something You Got" (which was later covered by lots of folks, including Bobby Womack, who did a reggae remake on his "Safety Zone" LP in the mid-'70s. Alvin Robinson also recorded for Leiber and Stoller at Red Bird in New York, and did a real classic called "Down Home Girl."
I gotta get that Moody Scott record.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.

That YSI:
George Jackson - Aretha, Sing One For Me
It'd be in my top 100 favourite singles ever, I think.

-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I gotta get that Moody Scott record.<
I have an extra copy, Edd! I'll send it to you.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.


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great! thanks Chuck!

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I don't know anything much about Moody Scott, just a handful of tracks, <
So Martin, did Moody have regional hits or something? I never heard of him before I saw his cdbaby page, and haven't really taken time to research him. I'm surprised you even heard of him!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.

I don't know, Chuck, but bear in mind that I've been a huge fan of soul for a long time, and do know quite a lot about it (though not as much as Eddie, I'm pretty sure). The odd track does get on compilations of one sort or another, which suggests that Moody isn't incredibly obscure - but I don't even know exactly where he worked or anything, so he isn't famous either, clearly.
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.

also really liking irma thomas's *after the rain* on rounder, the "rain" obviously being katrina, though i kind of hate the mooshy shelter-from-storm piano ballad the album ends with though i do hope it provides solace to new orleans. what i love so far is "flowers" (soul about flowers on roadsides after car crashes, with a sound that i swear reminds me of "uncle tom's cabin" by warrant), "make me a pallet on the floor" (cheating with a painter, wow), "till i can't take it anymore" (country music in a soul voice, about how "you work your thing so well/I dream of heaven and live here in hell"), "these honey dos" (vampy bawdy boogie woogie where the honey dos are at first temptations but wind up also being about manners like please and thank you), and "stone survivor" (which is just plain funky).

-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

And Irma also does an extremely gorgeous version of "I Count the Tears" (the "na-na-na-na-na-na late at night" song) by the Drifters..
-- xhxuk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.


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And she also does "Another Man Done Gone," a trad blues tune I swear I've heard hundreds of times by some huge classic rock group (Creem? Zep? the Allmans? somebody...), though no classic rock groups seem to be listed on AMG as doing it, so maybe whoever did it (which will probably hit me as really obvious once I found out) did it under a different title or something, or maybe with different words? (Also, I'm thinking now that maybe "These Honey Dos" and "Stone Survivor" and the palette one aren't quite at the level of the Warrant one and the country one and the Drifters one, but they're close.) -- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

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also liking (speaking of southern soul) *candy licker: the sex & soul of marvin sease* (jive/legacy) not all of which concerns muff diving, and at least "hoochie mama" of which has zapp-style robot-funk freakazoids reciting the names of several of the united states.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 12th, 2006.

*Most of the Marvin Sease album is gloppy ballads which aren't all that good, but some of it is kinda fun. (The first track is awful though.)

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Marvin Sease CD is way less gloppy and ballady than Matt suggests (or maybe I just have a higher glop tolerance than he does; see also the Alan Bros!); most of it gets a good '70s smooth-jazzy funk disco groove going. And lots of the songs have pre-old-school "raps" (i.e., talking as singing, sometimes like a preacher's sermon) in them, which are really fun. And sure, the opening track "Do You Want a Licker?" is awful if you want it to be, but it's just too silly to complain about; ditto the other bookend, a five-minute live "Candy Licker 2005." Also, the ballads are pretty good, for the most part. "Don't Forget to Tell On You" sounds kind of like "Tell it Like It Is." But my favorite cuts are probably "I'm Mr Jody," the backdoor man song that starts with an ominous phone call, and the 12-step fix-your-life number "I Gotta Clean Up." (Has anybody ever written a good essay about Jody? He's the guy back on the block who's having sex to your girl while you're in the Army, and I get the idea he shows up in lots of Southern soul songs: Doesn't Johnnie Taylor have one about him, too*? As do, I would assume, other folks.)

* - yep, I just checked Whitburn: "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone," went to number 28 in 1971. (Hey, sounds like a good EMP proposal!)

-- xhuxk (xhux...), June 14th, 2006.


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having sex WITH (or) making love TO.
and courtesy of HIS new truck.
).

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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Johnnie Taylor was the king of Jody songs. "Standing In for Jody" and "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone" are just two; I mean every song he does is kind of about Jody-ism in some way or another. I am a nut for Johnnie Taylor (I like Johnny Taylor a lot, too, and Ted Taylor, the Louisiana soul singer, is also excellent--so I think an EMP paper on the Sooper Taylors would be good!!), and Taylor is also the king of fucking-around songs. There are these nifty new Stax reissues that includes stuff by Frederick Knight, the Dramatics, etc., and if you ask me one of the very best Stax albums-as-albums is Johnnie's "Who's Making Love," which is the typical collection of singles but which really has variety and which totally hangs together. "Hold On This Time" has a great Cropper riff, cubist guitar, and "Woman Across the River" is one of the best Stax blues ever.
I only know the older, cunnilingual and happy to oblige, ma'am, Marvin Sease stuff--he's really good. "Marvin Sease" on London from late '80s is a good 'un. One of those artists who've been working the I-55 corridor from Memphis to the Louisiana border, forever.

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Well, a Taylors EMP report would probably be really interesting, but I was thinking (theoretically, not volunteering!) more in terms of one about Jody himself. Who was he? And how far back do Jody songs go? Did Johnnie Taylor invent them? Or does Jody show up in blue songs during World War II or something? Was he a real person, like maybe Stagger Lee? (Was Shine who swam the Titanic a real person? I forget.) Seems like real *Mystery Train* mythology stuff, and I'm surprised nobody has tackled the research (unless they have and I just didn't notice, which is very possible. I haven't even done a google search.) (Also, do I only associate Jody with making cuckolds of military guys stationed overseas because I was *in* the military, and he was always showing up in cadences used while marching and/or running? Or is that his main deal? And otherwise, to what extent if any does he exist outside of the culture of Southern blacks--who, when I was in, seemed to make up a sizable portion of the Army?)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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This could really be hella interesting, absolutely. Is "Trapped in the Closet" the Ulysses of Jody songs?
-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 14th, 2006.

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Here's some info I found while googling Jody songs:
http://soulfuldetroit.com/archives/10238/9918.html?1079610632

-- Sang Freud (jstrell...), June 14th, 2006.


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x-post. Taylor didn't invent the Jody song. Jody / Jodie / Joe the Grinder are pretty common figures in blues tunes.There's Louis Armstrong's "Jodie Man" which makes the "GI Joe de man" connection explicit. I wouldn't be surprised if that military connection is at the origin, though it's obviously gone through lots of transformations.
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Yeah, I'd forgotten Joe The Grinder. I used to own a copy of that *Get Your Ass in the Water and Swim Like Me* prison-rap comp (on Smithsonian or Rounder or something?), and I think there might even be a Joe the Grinder rhyme on there (I *may* even have mentioned it in the pre-rap rap chapter of my second book). Anyway, this link from the link above has great stuff about Jody Army cadences; also says Johnnie Taylor himself learned about Jody while in the military:
http://p211.ezboard.com/fwordoriginsorgfrm4.showMessage?topicID=153.topic

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

all white chitlin circuit

and what (ooo), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

huh?

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

My man Mel Waiters "Throw Back Days" song is still in the top 5 on the soulandbluesreport.com chart

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Edd and Chuck, there's a song called "Jody's creepin'" by Mr. David (Tony Mercedes label) (?) on that soulandbluesreport.com chart. I bet it might fit in with those 'jody' songs you guys were talking about.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://bluescritic.com/BluesCriticAwards.html

another source of info on current soul

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

from bluescritic.com (they nominate albums from 10/05 to 11/06):

Best Southern Soul/R & B Album Of 2006

I'M THE MAN YOU NEED by Theodis Ealey (Ifgam)
THROWBACK DAYS by Mel Waiters (Waldoxy)
DON'T STOP MY PARTY by Donnie Ray (Ecko)
GIFTED by Willie Clayton (Malaco)
GWEN MCCRAE SINGS TK by Gwen McCrae (Henry Stone)
HERE KITTY KITTY by Billy Soul Bonds (Waldoxy)
THE ROAD OF LOVE by Renea Mitchell (Jomar)
NEVER COMING HOME by Betty Padgett (Meia)
NEW LEASE ON LIFE by William Bell (Wilbe)
THANK YOU FOR HOLDING ON by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')
IT AIN'T OVER TIL IT'S OVER by J. Blackfoot (JEA Music)
DOWN LOW BROTHER by Barbara Carr (Ecko)
WORTH THE WAIT by Omar Cunningham (EndZone)
TIME TO GET LOOSE by Kenne' Wayne (Goodtime)

Best Southern Soul/Blues Album Of 2006

GHOSTS OF MISSISSIPPI by Joey Gilmore (Bluzpik)
SICILY MOON by Roy Roberts (Rock House)
MASTER OF THE GAME by Jackie Payne-Steve Edmonson Band (Delta G
PIONEERS & LEGENDS by Bobby Warren (KonKord)
JUST ME by Walter Waiters (self)
BACKSTABBERS by Maurice Davis (Touring)
BE WITH ME TONIGHT by Preston Shannon (Title Tunes)
OUT OF THE SHADOWS by Little Phil (Coffeehouse)
I'M STILL HERE by Trudy Lynn (Sawdust Alley)
ONE MORE HIT by Clarence Carter (Cee Gee Ent.)
STANDING AT THE CROSSROADS by Frankie Lee (Blues Express)
STARTS WITH A P by Lee Shot Williams (Ecko)
LIFE WITH WOMEN by Bob Steele (Sound Mindz)

Southern Soul/Soul Blues Song Of 2006

THE BLACKER THE BERRY by Chairmen Of The Board (Xcel)
GOING CRAZY by Willie Clayton (Malaco)
SCAT CAT...HERE KITTY KITTY by Billy Soul Bonds (Waldoxy)
NEW LEASE ON LIFE by William Bell (Wilbe)
SEVENTEEN DAYS (Of LOVING) by Renea Mitchell (Jomar)
MR. DO RIGHT by Ms. Monique (Soul Ent.)
YO' DRESS IS TOO SHORT by Bob Steele (Sound Mindz)
DON'T STOP MY PARTY by Donnie Ray (Ecko)
HAS IT COME TO THIS by Gregg A. Smith (G Man)
U CAN'T RAISE HER by Steve Perry (Bluesland)
FRANCINE by Theodis Ealey (Make Cents)
MY NAME IS $$$ by Miz B (Hep Me)
ARE YOU READY FOR THE BLUES by Clarence Carter (Cee Gee Ent.)
NEVER COMING HOME by Betty Padgett (Meia)
DROP THAT THANG by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')
THROWBACK DAYS by Mel Waiters (Waldoxy)

Best Slow Jam Of 2006

IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT by Kenne' Wayne (Goodtime)
GOOD LOVIN' WILL MAKE YOU CRY by Carl Marshall (Unleashed)
HEAVEN SENT ME AN ANGEL by Wendell B (Cuzzo)
DEDICATED TO THE ONE by Wilson Meadows (BGR)
I'M JUST A FOOL FOR YOU by J. Blackfoot & Lenny Williams (JEA)
U CAN'T RAISE HER by Steve Perry (Bluesland)
CREEPIN' AIN'T EASY by Vick Allen (Waldoxy)
JODY'S CREEPIN' by Mr. David (Tony Mercedes)
BOOM BOOM BOOM by Willie Clayton (Malaco)
SCAT CAT...HERE KITTY KITTY by Billy Soul Bonds (Waldoxy)
NEVER MISS A GOOD THANG by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')

Best Dance Song Of 2006

MS JODY by Ms. Jody (Ecko)
DON'T STOP MY PARTY by Donnie Ray (Ecko)
SHAKE & SHIMMY by Larome Powers (Waldoxy)
FRANCINE by Theodis Ealey (Make Cents)
DROP THAT THANG by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')
I'M READY TO PARTY by Bigg Robb (Over 25)
BIG HAND MAN by Sheba Potts-Wright (Ecko)
MISSISSIPPI BOY by Charles Wilson (HMU)
THROWBACK DAYS by Mel Waiters (Waldoxy)
WORK ME 'TIL I SWEAT by Lady Audrey (Studio Showtime)
MISSISSIPPI CHA CHA SLIDE by Mixx Master Lee (Team Airplay)
SHO NUFF by The Bar Kays (JEA)
I AIN'T GOING WHERE YOU GO by Pat Cooley (L & L)

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
One of my Don Quijote like quests (that I really should try to put in a review or longer article) is to convince some of ya that the drum machine and synth work on Malaco and Ecko and other Southern African-American indie labels is not as cheesy now as it once was, and you should embrace some of their artists just the way you like Solomon Burke going country or Sharon Jones or that Brit guy on Rounder who I heard about on NPR. I posted a comment on Pete Margasak's Chicago Reader blog about this (in response to his rave about some soulster covering a Will Oldham indie song), and in my Jackin' Pop comments I highlighted my Mel Waiters selection--

"Think you can learn all you need to know about music from blogs and chatboards. I don't think so. Mel Waiters' brand of rhythm 'n' blues was ignored by Ne-yo fans on myspace, hipster bloggers, aging bluesrockers, and NPR devotees. Waiters, via some key Southern American radio stations and clubs, however found a largely 45 and up African-American audience that embraced his soulful tales of looking for love that he sung over contemporary keyboard lines that were more vibrant than the cheesy synthwork associated since the '80s with chitlin circuit soul."

Right now I am listening to a cheapo Tower Records bankruptcy sale purchase--The Best of Barbara Carr--on Ecko. ALright, her version of the electric slide, "Hoochie Dance" is kinda cheesy, but "Bone Me Like You Own Me," "Cut the Mustard," "I've Been Partying at the Hole in the Wall," and others are earthy, fun and catchy. Yea, there's nothing that clever or innovative in the arrangements or the lyrics, but there's also an art to simple, clever hooks and there are plenty of those here. Barbara's gospel-rooted vocals are pretty special too.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

that Brit guy on Rounder who I heard about on NPR

I love this phrase.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

That Barbara Carr best-of is probably one of the few Ecko releases I can listen to front to back. It's right up there with Dr. Feelgood Potts.

I love double-entendre chitlin-circuit soul-blues, but Ecko Records always seems to put out the worst records in the genre. (And they should invest in a real photographer - those blurred Kodak photos on their covers ain't gonna get it!) So when an artist as good Carr or Potts comes along on the Ecko imprint, that's a thing to come by! Not that they're doing anything drastically different from the rest of the stable, they just go one step further and do it better?? Can't pinpoint it - just better material, I reckon.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 7 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Big March 17th show at Show Place Arena, 14900 Pennsylvania Ave, Upper Marlboro. Artists scheduled to appear include Bobby Blue Bland, Marvin Sease, Mel Waiters, Roy C, Theodis Ealey, Latimore, Shirley Brown, and Clarence Carter. Doors open at 6 pm

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 February 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Upper Marlboro is in Maryland, near D.C. The show is part of a 26 city US Tour. According to Chitlin Circuit Magazine "10,000 blues music lovers filled the Houston Reliant Arena February 3, 2007 for a date on the tour. "The first [show] of the 26 city blues tour started in Biloxi, Mississippi.... The Saturday Houston show started off with Mr.Bobby Rush and his famous dancers. Then Latimore, Sir Charles Jones, Shirley Brown, Theodis Ealey, Bobby Bland, Mel Waiters, and Marvin Sease closed the show in a style all of his own. Chitlin Circuit Magazine

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 February 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"famous dancers"

Hah. I remember seeing Bobby Rush and said dancers at an outdoor multi-act blues concert at Wolf Trap Farm Park, outside of DC and I think its run by the National Park Service. Well, lots of picnicers were suprised by the bottom-shaking, hip twisting dancers. Rush and the dancers were great, as was watching the dropped jaws of some of the folks in attendance.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 February 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Bobby Bland's snorting that he does when he's reaching for high notes can be kind of disconcerting.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I was not that wowed by Jim Bennett & Lady Mary when I saw them at Lamonts a year or 2 back, but their new single "Sometimes" (JaBen label) that has been receiving lots of Saturday afternoon WPFW airplay is a great laidback soul duet. It just debuted at 25 on the bluescritic.com Southern Soul radio chart

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

the bluescritic list is, it's, locked in. anyone on this thread actually heard the willie clayton CD on malaco mentioned in that list's "best albums '06"? if I am not mistaken, willie does george soulé's "trust" on it. but shit, that is some real greasiness there. "chitlin circuit magazine"? holy cow. shirley brown.
listening right now to the nifty new reissue of carla thomas' '69 "queen alone." pretty cool. and i guess johnnie taylor's stax mostly-reissue, "live at summit club," belongs on this thread--my-t greazy too.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I have not heard the Clayton cd, unless I heard songs from it on DC station WPFW that plays lots of Southern soul artists on Saturday mornings and afternoons but does not always say the names. The bluescritic.com charts are a bit confusing. Some artists stay locked in there for months. My fave, Mel Waiters-Throwback Days, for example. A few things come and go.

Southern soul radio chart for one week in March

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

So few reviews online of that 26 city US tour with Bland, Sease, Latimore etc. Too bad it's not getting more mainstream or hipster blog attention.

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Just posted this on country thread:

Also listening tonight to 2004 chitlin-circuit cdbaby soul (as in: everything from blues to disco to absolutely unabasedly schmoove-jazzed schmaltz) by Bobby Wayne; "This House is Haunted" sounds the best so far, but "Homestead Greys" (despite sounding curiously singer-songwriterly) rules by virtue of being the most blatant Negro League tribute I've ever heard:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bobbywayne

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

P2K ( w/ King George) “U-Turn” is a great southern soul song that Dr Nick played on WPFW

curmudgeon, Monday, 8 May 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I hope it happened before you drove!

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 21:22 (ten months ago) link

Oops . So that southern soul tour keeps going. It’s going to be in Baltimore in October

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 21:23 (ten months ago) link

In a public post on Facebook, DJ Dr Nick Johnson has announced that he is moving his “Southern Soul Rompin “ program currently heard from 12 to 2 pm ET Saturday afternoons on WPFW 89.3 public radio in Washington DC, to http://ATXSoulradio.com on Saturday night July 1 at 9 pm where it will aire every Saturday night. Dr Nick currently does a Saturday morning old school soul show on online only station ATX .

This kinda makes me sad.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 03:39 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

wow this is a real cool time capsule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_NcyitKV_g

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 June 2023 15:24 (nine months ago) link

Yes. Barbara Carr has a number of songs I like including that one

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 June 2023 18:09 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

i think i'm a Tucka fan now

Heez, Sunday, 6 August 2023 00:22 (eight months ago) link

Yes!

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 14:16 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

So wazzavout these Eli “Paperboy” Reed covers of “Ace of Spades” and “Do It Again”?

Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 19:22 (six months ago) link

Haven't heard em. But will check em out

I am listening to Cupid "(it's going down at) "The Cook Out"

curmudgeon, Sunday, 24 September 2023 00:50 (six months ago) link

Also like this Terry Wright and Vick Allen "It's Over" song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRpSI0KQgU

curmudgeon, Sunday, 24 September 2023 02:06 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nobody on Bluesky is into southern soul it appears

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 October 2023 19:14 (five months ago) link

And I am falling behind myself since Dr Nick moved his radio show from a Saturday noon slot on public radio to a website only Saturday night one

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 October 2023 19:34 (five months ago) link

Lady C who took Dr Nick’s place on WPFW just played a good 2015 song by Big Cynthia called “She Working that Nookie Thing”. Lady C is on WPFW Saturday 12 to 2 et, plus each show is archived for 2 weeks

curmudgeon, Saturday, 21 October 2023 17:05 (five months ago) link

The bill of The Southern Soul Bowl Tour that played Houston last night:

Tiffany Rachal
Tasha Mac
Jeter Jones
Royal D
Lacee
Latimore
J Paul Jr & The Nubeeds
Fatdaddy
Sir Charles
Tk Soul

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 October 2023 17:37 (five months ago) link

Nice . I like Latimore and TK Soul. Don’t know some of the others. I think J Paul is zydeco mixed with southern soul

curmudgeon, Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:44 (five months ago) link

Yeah she was rocking that Big Cynthia

Hard to believe it’s been so long since the Gator had that spot

Heez, Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:21 (five months ago) link

Yep. RIP Gator. And still I meet folks who don't know what I mean by southern soul-- Friday was talking to a DC guitarist who plays rockabilly and honkytonk country and a vocalist musician guy who is into artsy punk and post punk and they were stumped re the current day names I mentioned

curmudgeon, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:33 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Liking the 2023 Robert Finley album Black Bayou. it's more bluesy soul than southern soul. He had gotten some attention by working with a Fat Possum label engineer, and also with an album produced by a Black Keys guy, and on America's Got Talent. He's a rural Louisiana guy who spent years in Europe in the 70s in the US army where he also played music.

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 November 2023 01:34 (four months ago) link

Listening to Jeter Jones too

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 November 2023 14:33 (four months ago) link

https://southernsoulrnbnew.com/southern-soul-corner-2023/

Lots of song info and concert info here

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:01 (four months ago) link

Ms Jody has a great recent song called “Burger King”. On her 2023 album A Night to Remember

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 December 2023 06:05 (four months ago) link

Big Daddy Nice Posts a best of 2023 in January I think. Not seeing any southern soul best of 2023 lists posted now

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:47 (four months ago) link

Daddy B Nice I mean.

Here’s his top 7 songs for December

1. "Grown Man (I Need Somebody)"---King George feat. CharMeka Joquelle
2. "Real Real Woman"---J'Cenae
3. "Trail Ride"---Lady Redtopp feat. Bri Rocket
4. "Do You Wanna Go?"---Tucka
5. "Fallin' For You"---Adrian Bagher
6. "Walk Out On My Love"---Dee Dee Simon
7. "Party"---Mike Clark Jr. feat. E. Realist & Charity

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:22 (three months ago) link

Chazz The Boi Wonder also does monthly top southern soul lists

He has King George "Grown Man" on his list too

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 December 2023 05:13 (three months ago) link

But my search for year end southern soul lists continues

Various folks are djs throughout the US south mainly , playing these songs ; and fans weigh in on Facebook, and a bit on IG and TikTok, but I am not seeing much of anything in online print

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:26 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Lady C playing some great southern soul right now on WPFW

"Mississippi Girl" song ; "Work It" by West Love, "The Cowboy Slide" by Jeter Jones , "Burger King" by Ms Jody

curmudgeon, Saturday, 6 January 2024 18:41 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Cupid “Two Step on my Haters” is catchy and soulful

Ms Jody Burger King song has great lyrics

curmudgeon, Saturday, 2 March 2024 20:27 (one month ago) link

Lady C played some great songs on WPFW southern soul Party yesterday Saturday afternoon 12 to 2 eastern time. Archived on WPFW site for 2 weeks

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 March 2024 15:21 (one month ago) link

Those 2 songs are great

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:26 (one month ago) link

The Cupid song is from like 2021 but whatevs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK2xztdnfu4

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link

Ms. Jody's "Burger King" is from 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKpr6CtTbww

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:44 (one month ago) link

Just finished seeing Johnny Rawls. Pickup band performed admirably. A classic old school soul revue.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 16 March 2024 03:25 (one month ago) link

Yeah I like him too. He's coming to the East Coast in May

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 March 2024 05:02 (one month ago) link

DMV?

Comfortably numbnuts (Heez), Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:49 (one month ago) link

JVs in Falls Church May 30

https://johnnyrawlsblues.com/tour-dates-1

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:21 (one month ago) link


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