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i wasn't so keen on the first verse for a while, but that verse #2 of "the monkey song" is great!

gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

search: EVERYTHING!

john i love you and your crazy ass stories.

two releases last year that did it for me are Ghana and All Hail West Texas.

John, I hear you are playing Macrock this year in Virginia? Is that true?

Brock K. (Brock K.), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I try to avoid talking about my own stuff on ilX0r (unless I'm haranguing local ilX0r people to come to my shows so I can meet them) because it doesn't seem right to do so. While we're on the subject though ;-) I will be playing at MacRock and doing some more touring around that time. And there's an L.A. show (finally!) on February 28th.

As far as S/D, search the new one & the one before it, All Hail West Texas, & also the cassette "Yam, the King of Crops." Destroy with extreme prejudice the song where I say I never liked Morrissey, maliciously mispronouncing his name, because I have since come to my senses and am a Mozz booster of the first order

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

thanks by the way for everybody saying such nice things!

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

To add to the nice things. I know that one mag. critic, gave Tallahassee his pick for #1 album of the year on the Pazz and Jop. Warm feelings of the world unite!

Carey, Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hey John, will there ever be a repressing of Hot Garden Stomp? That remains one of my favorite Mountain Goats works, and I noticed it didn't appear on any of the 3BOS comps.

S: pretty much everything, but especially Hot Garden Stomp, Beautiful Rat Sunset, Taking The Dative and All Hail West TX (haven't heard Tallahassee yet)

D: nothing comes to mind

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I have since come to my senses and am a Mozz booster of the first order

I heart John.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

For those who need convincing and prefer file-sharing to going out and buying albums, download these (delib. limiting myself to 2/CD):
"Ontario" and "Going to Stalingrad" from FULL FORCE GALESBURG (probably still my favorite album)
"Cubs in Five" and "Stars Fall on Alabama" from NINE BLACK POPPIES
"Source Decay" and "Fall of the Star High School Running Back" from ALL HAIL WEST TEXAS
"The Alphonse Mambo" and "There Will Be No Divorce" from THE CORONER'S GAMBIT
"1 Corinthians 13: 8-10" and "Going to Scotland" from NOTHING FOR JUICE
"Going to Georgia" and "Alpha Incipiens" from ZOPILOTE MACHINE
"Prana Ferox" and "Going to Queens" from SWEDEN
(it seems like JD has a trend of putting the best song on the album as the next to last one)
"Song For Cleomenes" and "Resonant Bell World" from BEAUTIFUL RAT SUNSET
"Going To Port Washington" and "The Anglo-Saxons" from GHANA
"Going to Cleveland" and "Black Molly" from BITTER MELON FARM
"Love Cuts The Strings" and "Seed Song" from PROTEIN SOURCE OF THE FUTURE ... NOW!
"You're In Maya" and "Shower" from unreleased stuff that file-trading scum have gotten their hands on.

If you don't like any of that, it's pretty safe to say that they ain't your bag, etc., as that represents a wide array of styles.

And "Going to Marrakesh" and "Someone Else's Parking Lot in Sebastapol" from The Extra Glenns' MARTIAL ARTS WEEKEND.

Still digesting TALLAHASSEE. That Scrawl CD just finished playing, so I think I'll throw it in now.

John, come play in Portland sometime.

doug (doug), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The only thing I can say that hasn't been said is "The Anglo-Saxons" is the funniest song I've evah heard. John, play Indiana sometime.

Adam A. (Keiko), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I was introduced to The Mountain Goats by a hipster kid in Tennessee who told me, "He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not... but some really good stuff anyway. I saw him play at a small club in Knoxville and enjoyed the show, but I was really sold when I happened across "Color in Your Cheeks" on a college station and couldn't get it out of my head for days.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Also, his periodical Last Plane to Jakarta (lastplanetojakarta.com) is a blast. It's one of the rare 'zines that's actually convinced me to buy CDs I've never heard of, just because his reviews are so impassioned.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I Like "Cubs In Five","Orange Ball of Peace", the cover of "The Sign" and that 7" with Alstair Galbraith.

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

There must be a misprint, John, cause it doesn't say that you're coming back to Dublin, and YOU MUST COME BACK TO DUBLIN.

Search: yes

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

there's an L.A. show (finally!) on February 28th

yay! where? also do a reminder HYPE thread the week before if possible...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

John is nice guy and I only heard Talahasse once...but...ugh...ummm...

there's a whole lot of similes that connect romance to terrorism-kinda stuff but I don't recall any account of actual incidents that would explain why the relationship is LIKE terrorism. I'd kinda like to hear "you shot my cat, you bastard" next to "oh, you are like someone making a bomb" cuz it can kinda sound like zeitgeist exploitation. but the uptempo drummer on that one track was great idea! And I really usually listen to an album at least twice before talkin' about it, but it seems an opportune to bring it up (and it would look weird if everybody was ravin' wildly).

jesus, I gotta go die now. sorry. this wasn't easy for me, folks, so go easy on the flamebacks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Anybody flames you Anthony I got yer back :-)

(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)

In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah

(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh, and that's actually all I've heard. and that extra glenns leonard cohen cover. so don't take this as a "I've heard your work and I say nay! review." I'm damn ign'nt re: body of work but the zeitgeist thing was buggin' me.

I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.

Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Like Lou Reed's New York done right but that doesn't mean I find time to listen that often. "Going to Georgia" is heartrending spectacular for sure though.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Nadgers. Road Trip it is, then.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The best-of-Mountain-Goats CD-R I made for a friend a few months ago goes:

1. Cubs in Five
2. Family Happiness
3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back
4. Going to Port Washington
5. Going to Alaska
6. Going to Marrakesh
7. Golden Boy
8. No Children
9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers
10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days
11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song
12. Anti-Music Song
13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!
14. No, I Can’t
15. Orange Ball of Hate
16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?
17. Standard Bitter Love Song #4
18. Standard Bitter Love Song #8
19. Love Cuts the Strings
20. Seed Song
21. Water Song
22. The Window Song
23. Jam Eater Blues
24. Two Thousand Seasons
25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton
26. The Sign

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really love All Hail West Texas!, The Coroner's Gambit and Zopilote Machine and like most of the others. I get really into them (him, whatever) and listen to nothing else for weeks, then not listen for quite a while.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not...

...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)

the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons

Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You can hear an interview (including, I think, his cover of "The Sign") here:

http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml

just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like the songs on All Hail West Texas a lot, but the sound quality is so shitty (I know, there's an aesthetic at work there) that I can't play any of it on the radio (there's an aesthetic there TOO), and that makes me mad.
How's the sound on the other stuff?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dude, Tortoise doesn't need Darnielle to laugh, that's the reason they had Kevin Drumm open for them on their last tour!

I have no further contribution to make to this thread.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Tortoise fans can laugh? They must have learned from all the derisive snickering I direct towards 'em.

JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Naw they hired him so they could laugh. They could care less whether their fans do or not.

Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

At the risk of embarrassing myself in front of the man himself, pretty much every release has great moments, & there's a lot of them. Guess I tend to lean towards the early (_Hot Garden Stomp_, _Hound Dog Chronicles_) & late (_Full Force..._, _Coroners..._) periods.

Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.

Enough already.

Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, Mountain Goats John here, never knew.

Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"

David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i feel dumb trying to post to this thread when mr d himself is around, but here goes all the same...

horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)

i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.

, Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I only have one Moutain Goats song but I like it a lot. "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix' Life" on a 'zine 7-inch. You keep waiting for some revelation but it turns out on that day all Jimi did was drink some water & hang around. I love that. I need to get some Mountain Goats, anyway.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.

[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Aww, I would be happy to ship you the Faygo -- I think it is a worthy project.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

raggy 2 dope

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

unless you pronounce it "Ra-jay", Ned.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Nope. It's Irish not French, so you got it right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 January 2003 04:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

saw them live in london at the ICA. I enjoyed it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i hadn't realized how well known he was until this new album came out and there's reviews everywhere (fairly good write up in todays london times,for example,which suggests that the mountain goats could be this years flaming lips,in terms of crossover appeal)(a lot of people probably wouldn't see that as a compliment,but i was surprised that their profile was that high)
initially i heard of them and thought oh,that guy from ilx with that last plane to jakarta site has a band now?
i'm curious now,i must look into getting some of the stuff recommended upthread...

robin (robin), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Today's Times: The Mountain Goats: set to be this year's The Flaming Lips.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

my new fave band, as of two days ago! are any of the live shows floating around on soulseek worth getting?

toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i like the flashing lights song a lot

liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

So are the Mountain Goats going to have to retire "Cubs In Five" now that the Tampa Bay Bucs have, indeed, made it all the way to January?

God, I hope not.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

CFBX 92.5 FM, 5 Watts
Kamloops, BC
Charts to January 31, 2003

3) Mountain Goats - Tallahassee (4AD)

Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

from norman records-

4AD are going exactly the same way as original, life affirmingly INDEPENDENT allies Mute by signing pretty hopeless bands. If The Mountain Goats are the new Pixies then that pig really DID just fly past the window. More up Clint's street are these and even he thinks they're a bit pants. The band's new CD, 'Tallahassee' is out this week. Supposedly their 12th album, previous efforts have been on little US indies, this 4AD debut is average alt-country tinged lo-fi strum rock. Some might find some nuggets of gold up in them thar mountains but all I found were some old Yak droppings. Gorgeous packaging like but the words 'polish' and 'turd' spring to mind (again)....

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

John: Play Portland. Come play Portland. There are a bunch of us planning on driving down for the upcoming SF show but, really, it would be nice to see you without driving 9 hours... So, in summation, come play Portland.

Please.

Thank you.

Also, if you play Portland, please play "Golden Boy", as it would mean a lot to my roommate/bandmate, who sings it to her godson to get him to go to sleep, and is anyway one of your absolute best songs, even better than "Fresh Berries For You".

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and for the people wondering where to start: I say just go with All Hail West Texas! You'll love the first song and want to put it on a mix tape right away. Also there's a song on it called "Riches and Wonders" which will heart fall into your toes. And when the song is over, and you are a puddle of curious and hauting emotions on the floor, John will look up from the Panasonic and say, "Oh, you liked that one? Wait, let me play you this other song I just whipped off..." and then "The Mess Inside" will start playing and you will hate him for writing such beautiful songs and rubbing them in your face.

There. I am done being such a fanboy. Oh, except to note my friend's observation about how awkward it is to scream out "ABSOLUTE LITHOPS EFFECT!" as a concert request.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

MY favourite song of the ones i´ve heard yet is The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton and the cover of The sign have been on a lot of mixtapes.
I hope i don´t miss you when you play Sweden in like two weeks

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

don't worry keith - Phil only seems to like electronica and krautrock..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

djp in the house

schlump, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:38 (two months ago) Permalink

oh yeah, there is that ^_^

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Minor details!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:45 (two months ago) Permalink

as somebody who needs choral music to be aggressively crossovered into their life i am hyped to hear, d

schlump, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

"no guitars" I hear

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:18 (two months ago) Permalink

wait, is djp on this album?

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

(Thanks for asking. I'm confused too.)

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

it's the DJP-only album we've been waiting for

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

DJP has taken over the MG identity and it is nothing but plainsong chants.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Or alternately, I arranged backing vocals on one of the songs

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

But...my creative lies for your benefit.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna email some friends for a Latin translation of "No Children" this weekend

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Off-topic, but in ILX - With Ads!Ⓡ news:

how's life, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

hoping drew is somehow involved as well

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:24 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice dan!

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Anyone reading his book?

calstars, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Just got a copy after going to the reading in Seattle. I'm honestly amazed by how good he is at audience q&a's, being able to answer cliched or awkwardly phrased questions in an interesting way that doesn't make the person asking feel stupid is a real gift.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:31 (two months ago) Permalink

omg @ Goths

example (crüt), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:33 (two months ago) Permalink

ltd time offer, also cc'd on twitter so maybe invalid at time of reading this: pls somebody say if they wd like my copy of the novel, i can't rly have bks piling up here & am happy to probably-lazily mail it to someone who wants to read, #usa #only

schlump, Thursday, 23 February 2017 03:17 (two months ago) Permalink

uhh me plz? I'm up to my eyeballs in books but I don't mind

bernard snowy, Thursday, 23 February 2017 08:39 (two months ago) Permalink

:)
send me yr address somehow ! are we friends on twitter or anything

schlump, Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Eldritch is also here:

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/02/24/mountain-goats-sing-about-andrew-eldtritch/

tbh, not in love with it.

nickn, Saturday, 25 February 2017 04:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Universal Harvester rolling me right along in a musical way, not breezy tho (how did that word become such a thing)

dow, Saturday, 25 February 2017 05:10 (two months ago) Permalink

The book is indeed extremely good.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I tried to find it on the kobo store and it offered me

Farming Machinery - Combine Harvesters - With Information on the Operation and Mechanics of the Combine Harvester

and

How to Start a Potato Harvester and Sorter Business (Beginners Guide)

brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Sunday, 26 February 2017 16:08 (two months ago) Permalink

i have been VERY disappointed to discover Universal Harvester unstocked at the many airports i have passed through this weekend

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 26 February 2017 20:13 (two months ago) Permalink

That's because you weren't looking under his pseudonym, 'Brad Thor.'

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 February 2017 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh so it is available as an ebook in the kobo store, but not in the UK. And there I thought we had a global economy.

brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Monday, 27 February 2017 18:10 (two months ago) Permalink

as an aside i have to imagine placement in airport bookstores does wonders for sales -- feel like airports are one of the last few places ppl make impulse book purchases

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 February 2017 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Very nice new song here: https://ourfirst100days.bandcamp.com/track/etruscans

cajunsunday, Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:09 (four weeks ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Appropriately gothy new song:

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:35 (four days ago) Permalink

*waves at djp*

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:42 (four days ago) Permalink

also this is fucking excellent

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:45 (four days ago) Permalink

I would love to meet the basses they used for this because they are badass

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:10 (four days ago) Permalink

How's his new book?

djh, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:20 (four days ago) Permalink

they played two songs off the new album here the other week, and they were so good I wanted the show to extend to include the rest of it

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:54 (four days ago) Permalink


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