Favourite SST Release of... 1986

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I think I might break my brain if I ever tried to make that list.

These Immortal Souls' Get Lost (Don't Lie!) also possibly another one of those 'that was on SST?' records.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

There's gotta be a thread geared toward such a thing already, right?

Sounds like a good idea to me. Though I'd probably shorten it to 10 rather than 100.

o. nate, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of that Henry Kaiser stuff also fits the 'SST?!?!' category

Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, I'm surprised to see people repping for fIREHOSE so much on this thread. I thought that record was really really bland and disappointing at the time, especially compared to the Minutemen (wrote a Creem review of it along with Ballot Result saying so, and making dumb Styx and Kansas and Synchonicity jokes). But I haven't heard it since, so maybe I was wrong. (Definitely underrated Kansas back then.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of that Henry Kaiser stuff also fits the 'SST?!?!' category

Crazy Backwards Alphabet!

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

With the matt groening cover!

Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, I'm surprised to see people repping for fIREHOSE so much on this thread. I thought that record was really really bland and disappointing at the time, especially compared to the Minutemen (wrote a Creem review of it along with Ballot Result saying so, and making dumb Styx and Kansas and Synchonicity jokes). But I haven't heard it since, so maybe I was wrong. (Definitely underrated Kansas back then.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, April 8, 2010 1:20 PM (9 minutes ago)

^^^this^^^

between ciccone youth/lucky sperms/fIREHOSE, shit I'll even throw in three way tie for last as a collective stinkbomb after all-leading-up-to-and-including double nickels.

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

You know what, Negativland Escape From Noise is gonna be an interesting factor in the next poll as far as 'awesome records you always forget were on SST'.

This is exactly why I was dreading the 1987 version of this because how can I NOT vote for the Negs even with all the other great stuff that's gonna be on the list in 87...?

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno man, the first firehose album just has this naive charm, I mean i totes agree it does not nearly come within shouting distance of Dbl Nkls.

Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like that first fIREHOSE album and all, but mostly it makes me wonder what they would have been doing if D Boon wasn't gone.

Also, Voivod would have been a great fit on SST, I think. Weren't they on some label in Canada that licensed SST releases, or am I thinking of someone else?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

For me Firehose was the classic example of taking what you're given because it's as good as you're gonna get. Sure it's not the best band you ever imagined, it's not your platonic ideal of punk rock, it's not leaping headfirst into uncharted territory. It's not teaching you a new language as it's created. Because it's not the Minutemen. But it's Watt and Hurley, still psychically symbiotically linked and completely on fire, still the greatest rock rhythm section ever, continuing to exist, soldiering on. Of course comparing the two bands is both unfair and unavoidable. It's not exalted without Boon but it's still great in many ways. Ed kept the fires burning.

I never got to see the Minutemen live. But I saw Firehose doing Minutemen covers & their own songs, and it hit the spot.

dad a, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever heard firehose! like, ever.

my fave albums of 1986 were probably evol, i against i, reign in blood, and strange times. and licensed to ill.

scott seward, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

For no good reason that I can recall, my first date with my future wife was at a (terrible) Firehose concert. Possibly the least memorable live show I've ever seen.

Fave album from 1986 was probably Christmas' In Excelsior Dayglo, which still sounds pretty good these days...

dlp9001, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i liked that christmas album. i had the tape. i saw it recently on vinyl for two bucks and didn't buy it. maybe i should have.

oh yeah atomizer and just keep eating too. those were big faves. and holy money. and the queen is dead. and master of puppets. and the colour of spring.

scott seward, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

and throwing muses debut. 1986 was a very good year.

scott seward, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

and express. and the good earth. and filigree and shadow. and brotherhood.

scott seward, Friday, 9 April 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

interesting thread, I fall right into Edward and Jon Lewis's timeframe for the most part (was 18 in '84 and a hardcore kid to the hilt). Die Kreuzen ruled in Indiana then but a couple of years later their biggest fans were also listening to Celtic Frost. I went into noise and never really got the metal bug. So by '87-88 I was checking out everything on RRRecords, Japanese stuff, and the whole Nurse With Wound axis. Laughing Hyenas, Firehose, and the Feelies were big local draws in clubs. Dino Jr was pretty huge as well.

by 90 or 91 Thinking Fellers were definitely on the radar, then came Ajax mailorder and Xpressway and the whole 90's indie 7" flood.

I saw SY on the EVOL tour in the summer of this poll and it was way up there in all time best.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Friday, 9 April 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, that summer SY tour! They were still trying to figure out how to present themselves, how to transition from being a constant noise-source (adding a barrage of noise or a played tape deck between songs as segue) to something more like a band with tunes. I think the Bad Moon Rising & older songs got more of the noise segue treatment, most of EVOL got the latter. At Metro they looked like they were having a real argument about whether to encore or not (JAMC influence maybe?), Lee stormed off the stage. But they came back. They had things pretty well ironed out by the end of the year though. Dinosaur/Firehose/Sonic Youth, $5 in the dining commons, nice. This thread is bringing back so much noise and nostalgia!

dad a, Friday, 9 April 2010 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

relating old dudes to indie rock. i was going to post my list when people were ragging on 86 yesterday so i'll add Victorialand and Rembrandt Pussyhorse and Greed and Dry Lungs and Gods Favorite Dog and...

i was just Ragin' and rememberin' the life-altering Firehose/(Wurm or DC3)/Always August show at the Apocalypse Monster Club, a huge storage space/warehouse/punk club so the vans were parked inside. we got there wicked early and totally starstruck talked to fIREHOSE and gave Mike Watt our tape and t-shirt (which he wore for the show!). Always August were like the first real hippies I'd seen up close and they played fucking Santana between bands. My band tried to 'jam' for the first time soon after and I decided to grow out my hair...

in one word = garg (herb albert), Friday, 9 April 2010 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

1986: Big Shot Chronicles, Made To Be Broken, All Night Lotus Party got played to death. In Excelsior Dayglo too! Tom Waits doing Franks Wild Years at the Steppenwolf. "It was a very good year ..."

dad a, Friday, 9 April 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The Apocalypse Monster Club!

I just looked to see if I had a flier from that firehose show, but I don't. I wonder if I was there. I remember talking to Mike Watt outside, and it feels like it was at the AMC, but it could have been with the minutemen at the Lawndale.

Made me look at my old fliers from 84-87. D.O.A. and Beyond Possesion, Corrosion of Conformity, 7 Seconds with Verbal Assault and Mellow Cats, all at the AMC. I remember seeing MDC there and some kid cracked his head and had seizure or something. I saw Black Flag at Cardi's in that time frame. Henry Rollins came out to the edge of the stage and talked to us with his long hair and black running shorts.

Hardcore all the time in those days. Grunge gradually took over.

Zachary Taylor, Friday, 9 April 2010 07:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Houston HxCx represent! Cardi's...that was the name of that place, i was at that show too, Painted Willie opened iirc. my first hardcore night was Dead Kennedys/Scratch Acid/Culturcide at cardi's then onto the Cabaret Voltaire for some local noise. yeah, Lawndale, Pik'n'Pak, The Axiom, Butthole Surfers at the Maceba Theater melting the best minds of my generation....I still have a bunch of my Funhouse Show tapes. good fuckin times, bro.

in one word = garg (herb albert), Friday, 9 April 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I loved fuckin Christmas! I haven't heard In Excelsior Dayglo in decades... it never made it to CD iirc.

Fish eye sandwich = worst thing in the world.

repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, try finding a copy of ultra prophets of thee psykick revolution online!

<3 this song. 12" single had a cover of "ring my bell" on the b-side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzn1gw0ex4Y

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 9 April 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

for the in excelsior dayglo fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW55n1JLBUQ

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 9 April 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, so maybe you guys know wtf was up with the Psychic TV parody on Ultra Prophets cover/concept. it always struck me as odd since it's not like Gen&crew were even well known enough to goof on, esp. in the US (i dunno, maybe they were huge in Boston with Sleep Chamber and all).

and I totally forgot they became Combustible Edison

in one word = garg (herb albert), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

There used to be a couple of really nice live Christmas clips on youtube, but they seem to have vanished. I should have copied them when I had the chance.

dlp9001, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I have Ultraprophets on CD luckily. Yeah the album concept was impenetrable to me, but it resulted in Liz being sort of naked on the inner booklet so I approve.

repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

back to SST...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8d6yUpDG0&feature=related

in one word = garg (herb albert), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, just discovered who the guy who reviewed Excelsior in Spin back in '86 was (he called it, like, the best album ever)...Don Howland of Great Plains, Gibson Brothers, etc. Thanks Don!

Oh, sorry SST. Back to voting for Zoogz...

dlp9001, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-5XRdBDA-w

in one word = garg (herb albert), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember that review! Ha Great Plains-- THEIR album got stellar reviews from OPtion, in turn.

Wait who are you, dlp9001?

repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

thank you ILM, for making me get out In Excelsior Dayglo on this rainy day. Tommy The Truck!

nerve_pylon, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Who will j0hn punch this poll?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 April 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Is there a connection between Zoogz Rift & Bob Mould both being involved in pro wrestling? Or is did two SST weirdos just naturally gravitate to the WWF separately?

Brio, Monday, 12 April 2010 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it was separate. I don't know about Zoogz, but Mould was an AWA fan in the '80s (he's wearing a Rage in the Cage long-sleeve on the cover of the Eight Miles High/Makes No Sense At All EP). Then in the very late '90s he joined WCW as a writer during that company's worst ever creative period. If you think wrestling's ridiculous enough already...

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 12 April 2010 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

j0hn won't punch any of you unless and until he can punch all of you

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 12 April 2010 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

a punch fap

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Minnesota loved its AWA Wrestling, Bob was no different

m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Like all red blooded Minnesotans, Mould wanted Bobby 'The Brain' Heenan to die in a fire.

repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

UnAutomatic thread bump

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

It's weird, being a Brit I never think of Sonic Youth as being an SST band as they were on Blast First over here. Same way I never think of Big Black or the Butthole Surfers as being Touch & Go bands.

Albums on this list I once owned : 22 (approx, can't really remember which exact Zoogz Rift albums I bought)
Albums on this list I still own : 1 (fIREHOSE, who get the vote by default)

Matt #2, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

sonic youth are one of my favorite bands and were hugely important to me at the time, but i'm still gonna pick i against i over evol

evol's fascinating, but it tends to bum me out and/or irritate me more often than not. and while i Against i is far from perfect, I'm basically always in the mood for it. up there with sister, damaged, happy nightmare baby, born too late, you're living all over me, meat pups II, new day rising and double nickels in my list of things for which I owe SST (& Ginn/Dukowski) an eternal debt.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm really hoping EVOL gets 100+ votes...

forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it did, although a lot of people have said they're voting Bad Brains (maybe because they know everyone else will vote Evol). I cant wait to see the results to see how close it is.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I would be surprised if EVOL gets over 50.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

KIRA'S GOT THE 10.5

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

don't know most of these. went with EVOL

I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i get the feeling that sums this poll up

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link


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