Kevin Costner's Russian's Rusty: Washington DC Metropolitan Area Thread II

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Scott H, I did what you did--I moved to NY (astoria) right after college, stayed there a while, and then moved down here and got a good job. Now I'm ready to move back, not just because Clarendon is lame, but because my DC friends rarely hang out with me anymore because I live in Virginia and they all live within a block of each other in dupont. Unfortunately I'm a gov't contractor and can't make the kind of money I'm making here anywhere else. Those bastards. Not that I'm doing anything so spectacular with the money, it's just nice to have stuff and go on trips sometimes.

Hey, Patrick Fitzgerald is in my building and there are cameras outside. They got a great shot of my lunchbox.

allyson coco (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Mary: http://www.3citron.com/tregaron.html

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Cider donuts sound fantastic and I want one. I mean I want any kind of donut but I've never had a cider one and it sounds tasty.

And OK, there are plenty of "better than you" types here, whether they're corp. ladder-climbers or scenester scum, but are they really that hard to keep out of your life? I mean, there are just as many if not more (more, in my experience) nice, funny, cool people who aren't gonna pull that bullshit on you hanging around.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

In my experience those numbers are not even remotely equal, and because of that it's "few and far between" and then you kind of don't bother very much and keep within your own tiny circle. Aren't you in school though? That would help, universities are all equally assholes/ok people. No matter where!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Why aren't you people accepting the challenge to help protect our nation?

What's wrong with you?

Thousands of Fairfaxians, Arlingtonese and Montgomery Countish go to work every weekday from 0730 to 1630 to ENSURE YOUR SECURITY.

You non-profit NGO hangers-on should all be ashamed that you aren't helping this great nation defend itself against the evildoers. Look at my striped shirt, fucking look at it, etcetera.

By the way, just to clear the air, the MITRE corporation is a fucking pox on humankind and 90% of their employees can go fuck themselves right in the eye with an awl pike. "FFRDC non-profit" my mom's balls.


TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

in NY I often feel that I'm struggling with other people, whereas in DC I feel like I'm struggling against everyone.

This is like the truest shit ever written, btw.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost - Nope, not in school. I mean, I've only been out since last year, but I have managed to meet a lot of decent folks around here in that period. I can imagine it'd be kinda rough if you just came here w/out an established social set, but isn't that really sorta the case for most cities?

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i found people unapproachable, and those nice/funny/cool people difficult to find and meet in DC. i know they are out there, but i think complaints about dc being full of better-than-you types are the tip of an iceberg of lack of social infrastructure through which to find nice/funny/cool young people. i'd rather hang out on a balcony with beers than stand in line to yell over loud music at a bar too, but it's sometimes not so fun without a warm circle of friends.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

tombot, why do you hate mitre so much?

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Because they're arrogant, completely out of touch with reality and incapable of producing an effective solution to anything. They're backstabbing, self-important geeks too mediocre to work anywhere that requires results. They just demand them from others.

Also, MITRE has been instrumental in fucking up this project at nearly every turn since I arrived. So it's just a little personal.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I can imagine it'd be kinda rough if you just came here w/out an established social set, but isn't that really sorta the case for most cities?

Well, if you mean established social set as like, one other person, then yeah that's sorta the case but if you mean like several friends, or even two? Then no, I don't believe that's true.

I mean, Tom and I kind of have an established social set, albeit a not-huge one. And like, no one ever wants to do anything. Because like half the time it kind of sucks going to places here and it'd be better to just hang out at home, or in Baltimore. So like I guess basically what carly said, yeah there are probably cool people here, I mean there definitely is but you're going to have problems by and large finding them because of the complete non-existance of the local scene and local custom and social infastructure.

I mean, you could probably go to J Paul's any night of the week and meet 80 trillion people but most of 'em suck.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Re: Zach's comment about social circles.

I actually have more friends from college and high school living and working in DC than anywhere else. What I find, however, is that the ones living in the outlying suburbs are more willing to hang out with me, but lack any sort of circle within in the city.

On the contrary, I have other friends from college that live in Columbia Heights and China Town, know a lot cool people in the city, but are ridiculously hard to meet up with and sometimes weirdly reluctant introduce me into their world. Normally, I would assume that these people don't actually like me, but I think it's more just a general disconnect between suburban DC-ers' and those in the city.

So, despite all pessimism about DC, I think living in the actual city is the only logical way people of our type (non-twatish) can find a good circle to run with. It makes me want to leave College Park with the quickness.

Scott H, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

20 decent bars to spend time at in the DC area:

Pharmacy Bar
Wonderland
Asylum
The Reef
Marx Café
The Black Cat
Café Saint-Ex (on weekdays)
Bar Pilar
Georgetown Billiards
Bedrock Billiards
The Saloon (U St)
Polly's
W Domku
Townhouse Tavern
The Raven
Galaxy Hut
The Brickskeller
Aroma
The bar at Firefly
The Big Hunt

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

damn straight (well i can vouch for at least a few of those)

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i can vouch for some of em too. i'll add amsterdam falafel to the list of good things in dc. i know it was on the other thread, but i've been missing it lately. best falafel ever, second only perhaps to a few drunken versions enjoyed in berlin a few years ago.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It makes me want to leave College Park with the quickness

maybe petesmith can explain to you why college park is a wonderful place. i'd do it for him, but i don't really agree.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I was thinking about putting Amsterdam Falafel on the list, except that it's not really a bar. But I could get drunk on those fries, and it's got such a friendly staff.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

the first time i went in i was short on cash. the owner saw me counting out my quarters and crumpled bills, and when i told him i was 50 cents short, he told me i could just pay next time. which i did.

my out of town friends who visited me still talk about the falafel place of dc.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

if you're ever in Philly, go to Maoz... the BEST. It's like Amsterdam Falafel but with better toppings, tastier bread, and crispier ballz.

allyson coco (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

also, the bar at 2 Amy's. I know it's the bar at a pizza place, but the beers & wines & drinks are great, as are the bartenders. Perfect for weekend afternoon drinking/eating.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Ally OTM re the disproportion. I've got no serious problem with arrogant assholes and single-issue bores as long as they're just part of the mix; cf. New York, which wouldn't be the same without moronic young Masters of the Universe lurching around town.

Here, though, since they drive the market, they drive out most of the unorthodox niche joints--bookstores, strange bars, weird art things, whatever--that make a city interesting, and people who like to see something surprising every once in a while are kind of fucked.

It's funny, though, how interesting/okay people tend to cling together once they find each other, and have to look to each other for entertainment. It's like being in an expat community, but without the expensive long distance and dodgy water supply.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand why the Asylum is still even on there. The last many times I went there it was awful, their redesign is doing them absolutely no favors whatsoever. I mean yeah the beer is still cheap as shit and the wings are probably good but the crowd seems to have shifted a little more than I would've liked it to have. :(

Also it's just kind of ugly inside now!

I actually think I might kind of prefer Pharmacy now. Although I'm still pretty sure that my favorite spot on that strip isn't any of those places but Blue Fin instead.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Never mind the part about the water supply.

And to get with Brian's positive vibe: Amsterdam Falafel is excellent, and the all-you-can-stack toppings bar is the starving drunk's friend.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Stetson's
The people at Staccato were always super nice..

Re: social scene, I feel like it seemed easier just out of college, because everybody I knew was in the same boat, kinda poor and living in grungy apartments and run down group houses where they'd throw parties a lot and we'd go for $2 drinks at the Common Share. And now it's a few years out and people are movin' on up and working more hours and buying places and going to fancy lounges to hang out, except I went back to school and am poorer than I was before.

Re: security, I was so tempted to apply when I saw this job posting, Web Designer and Developer (Baghdad, Iraq)

"Yeah Mom, I landed this awesome gig building websites, uh, it's great experience, but.. it's kind of out of town.."

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, Asylum just recently became kind of ugly?

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I like Rep Your Hood on WPGC.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Asylum's kind of gone from 70s-guy-with-a-panel-van dungeon decor to 90s-teenager-with-a-Magic-deck dungeon decor.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer real biker ugly to stylized forced ugly :(

I haven't been there since maybe August? Whenever geeta was in town...but that was a weeknight and the crowd isn't quite the same as it used to be, a lot more...uh...Adams Morgany. I mean I dunno, in my very lengthy experience with dive bars and the like, the really grungy ass ones have 10x better crowds than tricked out "THIS IS A DIVE BAR!" designed ones. I mean the Asylum ripped out its innards and had it redone by the dude who did Reef (xpost what Stephen just said). I think they just attract different clientele. This might be due to the yuppification of Adams Morgan/Columbia Heights just as much as it is due to the change of atmosphere. I hold out hopes for Galaxy Hut and really didn't awful mind going there even though I'm not a beer person because it's so munky looking inside!

Granted, buffalo wings are fucking awesome.

Also I just saw a taxi with spinner rims. Point, DC.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

do you people wanna fucking hang out sometime or are we just gonna talk about how no one hangs out ever!!!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Well yeah I'm one of those DC people who doesn't hang out ever (other than with myself and my "circle of friend" [= 1 person with whom I live]), but I USED to hang, so I think I know how, so hey yeah lets hang.

quincie, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

yah pete and i were talking about this yesterday actually, so fuck it, let's hang out

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe a road trip FAP to new york is in order?

another favorite dc thing: Ask Tom chats
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/03/24/LI2005032400577.html

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Place I like in DC: the garden between the Hirshhorn and the Arts & Industries Bldg., with its wrought-iron benches.

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

And the new Ask Todd chat!

http://www.washingtonian.com/chats/dining.html

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ok is there any day that is better for anyone else? Thursday this week is bad for me but anything after that is A-OK.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the washingtonian is so laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

xp

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The old-school cab company logos also score points for DC, in my book. DC: Where every cab's a gypsy cab.

Weeknights nxt week are good for me.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm sorry brian miller, about insulting the washingtonian.

i wouldn't introduce dc cabs into testimony, logos or no, the cab system in the city is really really awful.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm gonna be in nyc this weekend and have bizness to attend to next monday, but anything other than that is fine by me

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Carly, I read the tom chat too... and the gene weingarten chat. His chat is much better than his column, though they talk about VPL waaay too much.

allyson coco (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

http://media.movieweb.com/dvd/hi/025192619328.jpg

I would love to hang out, am out of town again and don't have a place to live yet, but looks like I should have a job so will be settled.. uh.. soonish. You know, by the time the weather gets too bad to go out much.

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

so let's do a weeknight, like maybe next Thurs?

xpost the weather is never too bad to go out. I have climbed 5 ft snowdrifts to get inside of bars. Though if it's raining, that's right the fuck out.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Next Thursday's great. Shall we pick a bar off of Brian's list? Nothing wrong with Pharmacy.

Last DC cab ride I took, the driver was too baked to go over 25, and kept telling meandering stories about his former career as a soccer star in Europe, how he represented Ghana at the 1972 international Boy Scout jamboree, etc. Awesome.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hardcore: Q: What is the strangest/most exotic item you've ever had to eat?

Tom Sietsema: The one that leaps to mind at the moment: a still-breathing (but stunned from boiling water) fish.

that sounds like a fun cab ride! the cab rides i've had from the bus station to my house at 2 am have been more stressful.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

The cab rides from Union Station to anywhere are like hell on earth. What is with the obsession with piling as many people as possible into cars down here anyway? I mean they'll have a string of taxis 30 deep and they try to pile everyone into one cab. Which is A) crap B) you should not have to pay full fare for, 90% of the time you're going to have to be taken out of your way, unless you are the lucky bastard who is the first stop.

Pharmacy is alright by me! If it sucks that night we can always hit Asylum and make fun of the D&D decor or go over to the Reef and hope the downstairs is open.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Any chance at Wednesday next week instead of Thursday?

quincie, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

hey scott h, i think we've met before, and im pretty sure youve seen me and zack's band before, too!

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

wed or thurs is fine by me, and pharmacy sounds good, too.

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I have
EMSE 315: Legal Issues for Information Security Managers
on Wedensday nights

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

p-bar = the bar

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link


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