2008 Primaries Thread

elmo can you tinypic that? bandwidth exceeded

xposta at the net worth thin - lol! b/c i am at work i'm on this huge widescreen monitor - flipped vertically, so i rarely have to scroll up or down. i just get this huge 16-inch smiling romney!

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/08/candidates_net_wealth_small.jpg

damn it. here's the link to the andrew sullivan post with the graph:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/the-candidates.html

uh oh dr edward tufte to thread! shitty misleading graph!

Another fun graph!

Damn, Romney should have just paid off our deficit and said "Look bitches. Vote for me" and it would have worked.

I don't understand Obama's 2nd place showing in the Sicko graph, given the campaign's claim that he's not taking any lobbyist/PAC money.

also wicked bad job shopping those heads on - totes fun tho lol heug romney!

Contributions from the Health Industry - 2008 Election Cycle
HMOs, pharmaceutical companies, physicians and other health professionals. is key, i think.

so, doctors basically

seeing as how unions, corporations, and banks can't contribute

if a nurse gives obama money, it presumably goes on the chart. just like if a first-year analyst at an investment bank gives him money, it's a 'corporate contribution'.

and hey wow the two candidates raising the most cash raised the most from "the health industry"

astronomical turnout today, some polling stations are requesting additional ballots (particularly democratic primary ballots)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/08/559115.aspx

amazing how they give the most money to the people they think have the best chance of winning

yah the problem w/trying to divine too much from presidential contributions is corporate money tends to go toward the front runners regardless - unlike congressional campaigns where some candidates are explicitly owned by certain industries.

Is there anyway I can see the lolhueg Romney graph in larger form?

is there anyway i can get my romney in lol life-size cutout form?

Is there anyway I can buy Romney?

if u can make him president of the united states of america he'll do whatever u want

I finally figured out who Romney reminds me of, and I think it's fudge.jpg that did it: Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

GiantRomney is kind of hysterical!

http://modeshift.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/romney.jpg

He looks a bit like Vince McMahon, I never noticed that before.

that pic makes mitt look like an action figure, with little toy microphone and karate chopping hand

ASK A MITT ROMNEY

it is just because he's currently outside of the "clinton falters while obama surges" storyline, or has john edwards been that much less visible in the past few days? after he sided with obama at the debates, he just got swept under the rug, didn't he?

I wonder what that net worth chart would look like with Bloomberg on it.

Elmo, read Glenn Greenwald on the Edwards "disappearance."

Edwards is so suckling on the Obama VP nipple.

but you know, them is frat boys.

Is anyone else as worried as I am about what the Clintons are going to do after tonight's blowout if they don't decide to quietly back out over the course of the weeks leading up the February 5th? I wouldn't put it past them to go all out anti-Obama and risk the General Election for the Democratic Party, just to settle what they seem to see as a personal feud with Obama. I'd like to think they're too smart to go down that road, but...

lolz I wouldn't think they're "too smart" about anything at this point

God I hope not, what a completely useless thing to worry about.

Just like Bill was too smart not to campaign for Gore in the South the week before the '04 election?

otoh, it's likely Hil will want to keep her powder dry for 2012. Nixonlike.

otoh, it's likely Hil will want to keep her powder dry for 2012. Nixonlike.

this seems more likely to me

after McCain keeps us in Iraq.

if hillary tanks, bill is gonna waste no time becoming obama's new best friend. i'd expect to see him stumping for him in the fall.

Edwards is so suckling on the Obama VP nipple.

Edwards wants Hillary out of the race so that he can get attention as the alternative and votes as the (older) white guy.

but you know, them is frat boys.

not actually true

Edwards' people are asserting that he could stay in to the end

if hillary tanks, bill is gonna waste no time becoming obama's new best friend. i'd expect to see him stumping for him in the fall.

I don't think so - he's being used as Hill's attack dog against Obama right now, and that's bridge-burning stuff.

gabb, the frat boys things was sarcasm.

Are there exit polls yet for tonight?

some ppl actually think/assume edwards was

re: exit polling

In past years, the network consortium that conducts the exit polls distributed mid-day estimates and tabulations to hundreds of journalists that would inevitably leak. In 2006, however, the networks adopted a new policy that restricted access to a small number of analysts in a "quarantine room" for most of the day and did not release the results to the networks and subscriber news organizations until just before the polls closed (information that did ultimately leak to blogs). As far as I know, that process will remain in place today.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/looking_for_new_hampshire_exit.php

some polls will be closing at 7pm, others at 8pm, so it's unlikely we'll see any returns until 7, I'm guessing.

(eastern time, natch)

mike gravel currently hospitalized for flu & respiratory infection, btw

re: I wouldn't put it past them to go all out anti-Obama...

A panicked and cash-short Clinton campaign is seriously considering giving up on the Nevada caucuses and on the South Carolina primary in order to regroup and to save resources for the massive 19-state mega-primary on February 5.

At the same time, some top independent expenditure groups supporting Clinton have been exploring the creation of an anti-Obama "527 committee" that would take unlimited contributions from a few of Clinton's super-rich backers and from a handful of unions to finance television ads and direct mail designed to tarnish the Illinois Senator's image.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/08/clinton-allies-may-dump-m_n_80460.html

I wonder what that net worth chart would look like with Bloomberg on it.

I think it was a recent Harper's Index bit where they listed the combined net worth of the top 10 candidates, then went on to say that Bloomberg's net worth was 11 times that.