rfi:dalek (dark new jersey hip hop or something)

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sometimes I worry that in 20 years cLOUDDEAD/Subtle/etc. will be remembered as super-dorky prog-rap and my kids will mock me for loving it

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

(not that that should stop you, looj)

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

dose one et al are super-dorky prog-rap, love them for what they are or not at all

ogmor, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

nah mike ladd has some jams

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of shit i used to listen to in lolcollege, has lj heard saul williams yet?

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

man, this is like LJ & Hip-Hop: The Unburdening

(keep it up!)

(and no, not yet...)

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"Images Of .44 Casings" offa negro necro nekros is dope

zvookster, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

cLOUDDEAD are amazing, the compilation of the 10"s especially. If you dig it you should definitely listen to some of Odd Nosdam's solo stuff, especially Burner, Level Live Wires and, to a lesser extent, No More Wig For Ohio but not the recent, lazy, blunted beats, snowboarding DVD soundtrack shit hop of TIME soundtrack.

I was once heading over to Birmingham to Supersonic fest when the van broke down. Dalek, pulled up in a cool van and gave us a jump start, like the alt hop A Team. In that no one got killed.

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

ok this was a jam ~11 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48M6mijPH8

and this has the requisite lj 10+ min:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LEdGIcBheM

second album has some good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMtaIcrfQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sXe2o3hSg

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

this is like ILX 103: A History of Nerd Rap in '97 - '02

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

cLOUDDEAD is currently being acquired by my web-wise brother, and I've added about 20 hip-hop albums to my iTunes in the past couple of days, so there'll be plenty more listening. So far, Dalek and CanOx have shone brightest, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of what I've received.

Dalek sound like the grooviest cats on Earth tbh

oh crumbs xpost!!! ok lemme bed down with some of this...

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

So you've heard Funcrusher Plus by Company Flow, right?

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

That's on my computer, waiting to be gotten around to! Well, I listened to the first two tracks earlier and enjoyed them, but I was skimming about. Will give it a proper listen-through.

uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

That guy who thinks I'm too clueless about real hip hop and r&b to be a hipster will probably suffer a stroke when he sees this.

But I'm too busy hanging out in my front room wearing a backpack, counting all my Buck 65 and Mr Liff records to be too concerned.

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

jesus doran, u were defending racist arguments with more racist arguments + u r entirely clueless abt it. having some buck 65 & co flo records along with that is uncomfortably close to par for the course, so no stroke here.

zvookster, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

7 1/2 tracks in, am liking CoFlow a lot, although I may have to stop + resume tomorrow owing to need for sleep. Really gripping stuff - works a little like The Fall, repetition aplenty but little shifts, halts and change-ups within the repetition that open the whole thing out. Jordan's youtubes will be watched tomorrow, I think. FanDam is also on the menu.

uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha ha! Right on cue...

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

have clouddead, donuts, edan, fandam

will listen to those youtubes soon

uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

wish i could merge the 'lj discovers' bits of the canox and dalek threads tbh

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

cLOUDDEAD is basically a less-chaotic Beta Band gone BoC-wards, not a hip-hop act

but it's really REALLY good so I'm not complaining!!

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

if you like dose-one, Themselves and his album w/ boom bip would do you nicely.

ogmor, Monday, 12 April 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

just put on gutter tactics and it's kind of refreshing to hear a rap song where the vocals aren't all front and center in the mix, it's almost like an old beastie boys album

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

~voice as instrument~

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

New song/video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBByC9BebX4

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, Ned! Also, I mentioned the Faust vs. Dalek "review" (actually more of a self-parodic yet truthful respone, since my impressions were driven fairly far out and in; just trying to convey the listening experience, although I resolved to be more consumer-friendly after this, with mixed results---anyway, it's short) Didn't link it then, but here tis (I'd still say start with their first, but this collaborative experiment is well within the range of interests evidenced on this thread)
http://www.villagevoice.com/2004-09-28/music/karma-sutures/full/

And a repost of Scott's cogent commentary on previous Dalek:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-11-26/music/heaven-hell-and-jersey/

dow, Sunday, 14 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

reckon I'm surrounded by introverted ilxors at this gig. out ourselves to the twat in the white shirt

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 23 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

from The Future Is Now! thread:
Co-produced, -generated by Momim of Dalek and trombonist Rick Parker (who's worked with Tim Berne, Mingus Big Band, Wu Tang, baby): bluesy, spacious, sometimes hungover hornorities meet bracing beats, working through strata of data under Polar stars (ain't no sunshine; none needed). Salt and tackle provided, tronic taxonomies left 2 U: (if could only pick one: "Safar," with searchlight phasing; if had to flush one: "Nanotronic")
https://wondermachine.bandcamp.com/album/a-fire-of-flowers-grows-around-us

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dow, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link

https://f1.bcbits.com/img/a4225398947_16.jpg

dow, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

oh fuck that gig was enormous

ogmor you're in for a treat. mc dälek himself assured me they'd kill it up there "plus we haven't played there in a minute" so they've got a new crowd to impress

goes without saying that their beats are the best beats but the dude's flow is visceral

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

the new track is incredible, so hyped for the album

imago, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

yes, yes the album is great

imago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

Nice new overview piece at Bandcamp

https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/dalek-album-guide

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

The album with Faust is one of the most amazing things ever.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Seeing them tonight but having investigated the support act, not only does it have a member of Dalek in it, but their debut album is out today and is sick as hell, electro-noise rock of a very high order

https://holyscum.bandcamp.com/album/strange-desires

imago, Friday, 10 June 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

!!! Thanks for the word on that.
I posted link to this brief take upthread, but Voice changed links again, so here tis from my own archive, taking this approach as far as I ever did, mending ways later (Voicewise), but meant to convey unusual listening experience:

Karma Sutures
Ancient Teutonic drone-rockers take on Jersey art-hoppers
October 5th, 2004 4:50 PM Issue 40

Faust vs. Dalek
Derbe Respecte, Alder
Staubgold

Not so long ago, a young Jersey trio of prodigious mad hiphopologists, Dalek,
undertook a European tour. How they suffered! Until rescued by an old German
kombo of legendary mad progologists, Faust. Transcription of (ob)session
follows:
Facedown bass-clown chews through plaster cast appeal and last appeals.
Artillery fire falls like fossils, into single phylum. Spinal columns of beats
stack, driven home, bent high; remixing bricks, carpets, and windows. In some
crumbling rumble's scratch, soundbeast crawls on. Barrel tongues roll years.
Inventory takes itself, junkyard ripples like hide riding a horsefly:
Groovation gathers. A thin blue flame suspends, not unlike the aural aura of organist
Larry Young, but he died long ago. Miles and Jimi never played together, but
he played with them both. It is also not unlike the gas-jet flame Miles's
autobio claimed to be his earliest memory, seen across a field of whitest stove
top. Atmosphere waits out the needle of such a tiny thrill. But its point has
been made. And if the listener's ear-hole cherry should regrow itself, sealing
feeling? Well. CDs last a while. This one will be waiting.

dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Followed by this for the collegetown local:

Dalek
Thursday @ the Ravari Room
The cliché tag of “underground” rap is right for Dalek’s pungent layers of sound, which earned them an album-length collaboration with prog pioneers Faust. On their first three albums, they pushed the layers up into towers of rubble, recycling old wars, civilizations, and other lost causes. On 2007’s Abandoned Language, they scrape away the noise, and direct an “Isolated Stare” up at hovering, glittering sounds, through a fractured glass ceiling of frustration. But they persist, rapping and playing over stoically-to-angrily swinging beats. They’re reputedly a formidable live act too.

dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

But also, I need to post a correction: the Tarana album I linked upthread in 2015 involves Ravish Momin, not Dalek's Alap Momin. It's really good, though,and seemed like it had some Dalek appeal.

dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link


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