rfi:dalek (dark new jersey hip hop or something)

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i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.

― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:36 (9 hours ago) Permalink

It's their least good release by some distance imo

also want to echo assertion(s) above that they are super nice and funny ppl in my experience

artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Friday, 2 April 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i really do think they are making some of the most important music of our time, and will prolly be remembered fondly like Art Ensemble Of Chicago or the Feelies in 20 yrs.

batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 2 April 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yay two more bands for me to systematically destroy!

acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ, if you haven't made it this far back into the Dälek catalogue, these are both from their first/second album (depending whether you consider Negro Necro Nekros their debut album or a preceding EP) and are absolutely brilliant slabs of hip-hop/fucked sonics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhIA-YH-7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9rs9PSG9qE

Did I mention this is one of the most incredible closing 1-2 punches on any album, ever?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I still need to get that album! Nor did I ever get around the Gutter Tactics, how is that one? The EP and the other two full-lengths are fantastic.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't heard Gutter Tactics yet. Assume it's great, as most everything else they've released falls along the great-to-incredible axis.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 3 April 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL way ahead of you ilxor (sorry to repost from 77 but has to be done):

all that stuff is very important obv

'from filthy tongue', i can confirm, is amazing. 'black smoke rises' was about as awesome as i was always gonna think it was but the real stunners are the last two tracks, especially 'forever close my eyes'...holy shit.

the only (very minor) problem i can see myself having with dalek is the occasional over-reliance upon that 'when the levee breaks' beat but fuck it's still thrilling

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acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link

http://nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/61881/

i know if it weren't for you and "sucka pants" i'd be lost.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

btw whiney, notice the complete absence of hateration - ILX has changed for the better - this shit is 100% legit

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

you've misjudged who'll be the ones looking like sad morons, 'cause it sure as hell won't be the people getting all enthusiastic about music 'cause they, y'know, like it

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean i seriously can't stop listening to 'absence' on repeat - last track 'opiate the masses' especially is what RATM fucking SHOULD sound like

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

that's kinda like saying: bad bands should make good music! i mean, they probably would if they could. in the meantime, just listen to good music.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i like these dudes but their website is called deadverse.com

alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

haha scott i knew i'd said something a bit leading there but i mean it takes the sorta heavy-rap-loudness-protest-thumping ideal of RATM, at least as i hear them, and executes it infinitely better

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

also searching ilx for 'undie' threads or w/e = world and worlds and worlds of pain, which mysteriously end about 3 years ago - seriously so glad ilx got over itself :)

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

ilx poster acoleuthic what mike ladd albums have u listened 2

alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

none but my clowning alert sensors are at red

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i love dalek. feel kinda bad that i haven't kept up though with the last album. heck, maybe even the last two albums. can't remember. but they are great.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

lj, you should check out the last clouddead album. ten. came out in 2004. i really liked it.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

opening track of 'abandoned language' is a thing of beauty - if i were to make a BoC comparison wd people get pissy - don't care tbh

and yeah people are telling me to hear clouddead - think i'll get on it

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes I worry that in 20 years cLOUDDEAD/Subtle/etc. will be remembered as super-dorky prog-rap and my kids will mock me for loving it

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

(not that that should stop you, looj)

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

dose one et al are super-dorky prog-rap, love them for what they are or not at all

ogmor, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

nah mike ladd has some jams

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

speaking of shit i used to listen to in lolcollege, has lj heard saul williams yet?

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

man, this is like LJ & Hip-Hop: The Unburdening

(keep it up!)

(and no, not yet...)

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"Images Of .44 Casings" offa negro necro nekros is dope

zvookster, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

cLOUDDEAD are amazing, the compilation of the 10"s especially. If you dig it you should definitely listen to some of Odd Nosdam's solo stuff, especially Burner, Level Live Wires and, to a lesser extent, No More Wig For Ohio but not the recent, lazy, blunted beats, snowboarding DVD soundtrack shit hop of TIME soundtrack.

I was once heading over to Birmingham to Supersonic fest when the van broke down. Dalek, pulled up in a cool van and gave us a jump start, like the alt hop A Team. In that no one got killed.

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

ok this was a jam ~11 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48M6mijPH8

and this has the requisite lj 10+ min:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LEdGIcBheM

second album has some good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMtaIcrfQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sXe2o3hSg

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

this is like ILX 103: A History of Nerd Rap in '97 - '02

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

cLOUDDEAD is currently being acquired by my web-wise brother, and I've added about 20 hip-hop albums to my iTunes in the past couple of days, so there'll be plenty more listening. So far, Dalek and CanOx have shone brightest, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of what I've received.

Dalek sound like the grooviest cats on Earth tbh

oh crumbs xpost!!! ok lemme bed down with some of this...

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

So you've heard Funcrusher Plus by Company Flow, right?

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

That's on my computer, waiting to be gotten around to! Well, I listened to the first two tracks earlier and enjoyed them, but I was skimming about. Will give it a proper listen-through.

uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

That guy who thinks I'm too clueless about real hip hop and r&b to be a hipster will probably suffer a stroke when he sees this.

But I'm too busy hanging out in my front room wearing a backpack, counting all my Buck 65 and Mr Liff records to be too concerned.

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

jesus doran, u were defending racist arguments with more racist arguments + u r entirely clueless abt it. having some buck 65 & co flo records along with that is uncomfortably close to par for the course, so no stroke here.

zvookster, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

7 1/2 tracks in, am liking CoFlow a lot, although I may have to stop + resume tomorrow owing to need for sleep. Really gripping stuff - works a little like The Fall, repetition aplenty but little shifts, halts and change-ups within the repetition that open the whole thing out. Jordan's youtubes will be watched tomorrow, I think. FanDam is also on the menu.

uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha ha! Right on cue...

Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

have clouddead, donuts, edan, fandam

will listen to those youtubes soon

uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

wish i could merge the 'lj discovers' bits of the canox and dalek threads tbh

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

cLOUDDEAD is basically a less-chaotic Beta Band gone BoC-wards, not a hip-hop act

but it's really REALLY good so I'm not complaining!!

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

if you like dose-one, Themselves and his album w/ boom bip would do you nicely.

ogmor, Monday, 12 April 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

just put on gutter tactics and it's kind of refreshing to hear a rap song where the vocals aren't all front and center in the mix, it's almost like an old beastie boys album

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

~voice as instrument~

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

New song/video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBByC9BebX4

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, Ned! Also, I mentioned the Faust vs. Dalek "review" (actually more of a self-parodic yet truthful respone, since my impressions were driven fairly far out and in; just trying to convey the listening experience, although I resolved to be more consumer-friendly after this, with mixed results---anyway, it's short) Didn't link it then, but here tis (I'd still say start with their first, but this collaborative experiment is well within the range of interests evidenced on this thread)
http://www.villagevoice.com/2004-09-28/music/karma-sutures/full/

And a repost of Scott's cogent commentary on previous Dalek:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-11-26/music/heaven-hell-and-jersey/

dow, Sunday, 14 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

reckon I'm surrounded by introverted ilxors at this gig. out ourselves to the twat in the white shirt

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 23 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

from The Future Is Now! thread:
Co-produced, -generated by Momim of Dalek and trombonist Rick Parker (who's worked with Tim Berne, Mingus Big Band, Wu Tang, baby): bluesy, spacious, sometimes hungover hornorities meet bracing beats, working through strata of data under Polar stars (ain't no sunshine; none needed). Salt and tackle provided, tronic taxonomies left 2 U: (if could only pick one: "Safar," with searchlight phasing; if had to flush one: "Nanotronic")
https://wondermachine.bandcamp.com/album/a-fire-of-flowers-grows-around-us

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dow, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link

https://f1.bcbits.com/img/a4225398947_16.jpg

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