rfi:dalek (dark new jersey hip hop or something)

also, stop posting

dude quit bitchin', marry yr gf and have a fucken baby or 3

never got into these dudes' recordings that much but saw them a couple of times at my college and they were great live, so loud and oppressive. the first time they opened for paul barman at a frat house (LOL) and blew him off the "stage" (of course). the second time, my pseudo-no wave band opened for them at the on-campus fake bar/venue. we were pretty bad.

LOL apparently I posted about that show like eight years ago:

They are totally kick-ass and extremely loud. Not traditional hip-hop by any means. Very dense and scary sounding. My band opened for them here last week. They are indeed very nice people. As soon as I walked in the door, the producer guy, Octopus, started talking to me and talked my ear off (in a nice way) for about 20 minutes about Ipecac and Mike Patton and all kinds of stuff. Go for it.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, November 7, 2002 8:58 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have been on ILX a long time.

i cringed when i ctrl-f'd myself on this thread but apparently i never posted on it. i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.

not only is this music super-awesome but it is also a surefire 100% guaranteed way to annoy one's parents - I don't think there's been any other music of mine which has had them coming in and telling me to turn it the fuck down with quite this fervour

Absence and holy shitting Christ

is this really the name of one of their albums

and his parents thought they had it bad with the chris ofili prints

^what we mere mortals must wiki

i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.

― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:36 (9 hours ago) Permalink

It's their least good release by some distance imo

also want to echo assertion(s) above that they are super nice and funny ppl in my experience

i really do think they are making some of the most important music of our time, and will prolly be remembered fondly like Art Ensemble Of Chicago or the Feelies in 20 yrs.

yay two more bands for me to systematically destroy!

LJ, if you haven't made it this far back into the Dälek catalogue, these are both from their first/second album (depending whether you consider Negro Necro Nekros their debut album or a preceding EP) and are absolutely brilliant slabs of hip-hop/fucked sonics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhIA-YH-7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9rs9PSG9qE

Did I mention this is one of the most incredible closing 1-2 punches on any album, ever?

I still need to get that album! Nor did I ever get around the Gutter Tactics, how is that one? The EP and the other two full-lengths are fantastic.

Haven't heard Gutter Tactics yet. Assume it's great, as most everything else they've released falls along the great-to-incredible axis.

LOL way ahead of you ilxor (sorry to repost from 77 but has to be done):

all that stuff is very important obv

'from filthy tongue', i can confirm, is amazing. 'black smoke rises' was about as awesome as i was always gonna think it was but the real stunners are the last two tracks, especially 'forever close my eyes'...holy shit.

the only (very minor) problem i can see myself having with dalek is the occasional over-reliance upon that 'when the levee breaks' beat but fuck it's still thrilling

― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 01:12 (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/61881/

i know if it weren't for you and "sucka pants" i'd be lost.

btw whiney, notice the complete absence of hateration - ILX has changed for the better - this shit is 100% legit

you've misjudged who'll be the ones looking like sad morons, 'cause it sure as hell won't be the people getting all enthusiastic about music 'cause they, y'know, like it

i mean i seriously can't stop listening to 'absence' on repeat - last track 'opiate the masses' especially is what RATM fucking SHOULD sound like

that's kinda like saying: bad bands should make good music! i mean, they probably would if they could. in the meantime, just listen to good music.

i like these dudes but their website is called deadverse.com

haha scott i knew i'd said something a bit leading there but i mean it takes the sorta heavy-rap-loudness-protest-thumping ideal of RATM, at least as i hear them, and executes it infinitely better

also searching ilx for 'undie' threads or w/e = world and worlds and worlds of pain, which mysteriously end about 3 years ago - seriously so glad ilx got over itself :)

ilx poster acoleuthic what mike ladd albums have u listened 2

none but my clowning alert sensors are at red

i love dalek. feel kinda bad that i haven't kept up though with the last album. heck, maybe even the last two albums. can't remember. but they are great.

lj, you should check out the last clouddead album. ten. came out in 2004. i really liked it.

opening track of 'abandoned language' is a thing of beauty - if i were to make a BoC comparison wd people get pissy - don't care tbh

and yeah people are telling me to hear clouddead - think i'll get on it

sometimes I worry that in 20 years cLOUDDEAD/Subtle/etc. will be remembered as super-dorky prog-rap and my kids will mock me for loving it

(not that that should stop you, looj)

dose one et al are super-dorky prog-rap, love them for what they are or not at all

nah mike ladd has some jams

wow, flashbacks to '00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQV5wByzzPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FHwZpB27U

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALU7CiaPCzc

speaking of shit i used to listen to in lolcollege, has lj heard saul williams yet?

man, this is like LJ & Hip-Hop: The Unburdening

(keep it up!)

(and no, not yet...)

"Images Of .44 Casings" offa negro necro nekros is dope

cLOUDDEAD are amazing, the compilation of the 10"s especially. If you dig it you should definitely listen to some of Odd Nosdam's solo stuff, especially Burner, Level Live Wires and, to a lesser extent, No More Wig For Ohio but not the recent, lazy, blunted beats, snowboarding DVD soundtrack shit hop of TIME soundtrack.

I was once heading over to Birmingham to Supersonic fest when the van broke down. Dalek, pulled up in a cool van and gave us a jump start, like the alt hop A Team. In that no one got killed.

ok this was a jam ~11 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48M6mijPH8

and this has the requisite lj 10+ min:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LEdGIcBheM

second album has some good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMtaIcrfQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sXe2o3hSg

this is like ILX 103: A History of Nerd Rap in '97 - '02

cLOUDDEAD is currently being acquired by my web-wise brother, and I've added about 20 hip-hop albums to my iTunes in the past couple of days, so there'll be plenty more listening. So far, Dalek and CanOx have shone brightest, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of what I've received.

Dalek sound like the grooviest cats on Earth tbh

oh crumbs xpost!!! ok lemme bed down with some of this...

So you've heard Funcrusher Plus by Company Flow, right?

That's on my computer, waiting to be gotten around to! Well, I listened to the first two tracks earlier and enjoyed them, but I was skimming about. Will give it a proper listen-through.

That guy who thinks I'm too clueless about real hip hop and r&b to be a hipster will probably suffer a stroke when he sees this.

But I'm too busy hanging out in my front room wearing a backpack, counting all my Buck 65 and Mr Liff records to be too concerned.

jesus doran, u were defending racist arguments with more racist arguments + u r entirely clueless abt it. having some buck 65 & co flo records along with that is uncomfortably close to par for the course, so no stroke here.

7 1/2 tracks in, am liking CoFlow a lot, although I may have to stop + resume tomorrow owing to need for sleep. Really gripping stuff - works a little like The Fall, repetition aplenty but little shifts, halts and change-ups within the repetition that open the whole thing out. Jordan's youtubes will be watched tomorrow, I think. FanDam is also on the menu.

Ha ha! Right on cue...

have clouddead, donuts, edan, fandam

will listen to those youtubes soon

wish i could merge the 'lj discovers' bits of the canox and dalek threads tbh

cLOUDDEAD is basically a less-chaotic Beta Band gone BoC-wards, not a hip-hop act

but it's really REALLY good so I'm not complaining!!