also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(
it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
you think they ought to make it longer? u mad
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...
― schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
Can't wait for the crossover episode.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
1 book = 1 season makes total sense
they can make that work
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year
sopranos took long breaks
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!
― ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.
― schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
big love took a break right?
― ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
If it hasn't it needs to.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Carcetti is Littlefinger
That character means nothing to me obv.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
FUCK YEAH THAT IS BRILLIANT!!!!!
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah, that is good casting
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
ditto
Really looking forward to this!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
more teasing
― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
They have dragons and undead.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there
― thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.
Exclusive EW pics
Martin has penned the 8th episode.
Also EW On the Set
There's a new language or something that's better than Klingon it says.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
Looks nice and wintry
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wasn't the guy in the first scene of the trailer also in the Lord of the Ring movies? I guess all "serious" fantasy movies/series now have to look kinda murky with muted colours, since LotR did that. Will anyone make a colourful fantasy movie anymore?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah thats sean bean... ive been reading the first book and im not a fantasy guy at all but its p. good... a lot of the early parts of the story take place in a wintery shithole, which limits your color choices... plus its kind of 'gritty' fantasy and they wanna convey that style/mood...
lotr movies were pretty colorful imo, like that part where they're in elfburg and the dwarf goes AND U HAVE MY AXE... lots of stuff actually... its just the color palette changes depending on context... i mean what do you want dude, rainbows over mount doom..
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipr-wS5iBv0 (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Las
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Last Airbender movie has the same kind of look even though the source material is actually quite colourful and fun.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
have you read the books? if there is one story that needs to look "gritty", it's this one.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
So is each season going to be one book?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
God, I hope not. To me the best way to do it would be to break it down and rearrange in a linear timeline. Jump around between characters, like any good television drama with a ton of characters tends to do.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice.
yes because there have been so, so many live action fantasy movies recently
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
still lolling at "muted color palette of LotR"
― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's not fantasy, it's HBO
A decent little write-up about the 10-minute making of that premiered and also the branding of the show.
― Gukbe, Monday, 6 December 2010 05:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
oh, and that Inside of Game of Thrones featurette:
― Gukbe, Monday, 6 December 2010 05:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
This looks so good. I really, really hope it succeeds and gets George off his fat ass to finish the story before they catch up.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
April cannot come soon enough.
― schwantz, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
im still peeved they didnt get tamzin merchant to play daenerys. her replacement doesnt look inbred enough imo. at least they got the iron throne right.
and yes this will be just for nerds.
― ☆, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hopefully it will do for us nerds who haven't read the books as well.
― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
i have the speakers off, did they cut this trailer to 'power'
this looks so awful. the throne of swords is a pretty stupid idea for a visual and this is not executed in any way that'd serve to redeem that
― thomp, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 10:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
I pulled out my old copy to read again before the adaption starts and I'd totally forgotten I have an autographed copy.... lol.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
hi five!
― VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Oh, duh - (sorry)
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:45 (4 days ago) Permalink
omg torturing alfie allen was even more boring and stupid than it was last week
kingslayer and brienne thing is cute tho. sweet block and left cross from the bear too, should really have taken his head off to reveal nic cage afterwards
i already forgot what melisandre wants the bastard smith kid's blood for can someone remind me
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:49 (4 days ago) Permalink
also i keep thinking robb's gruff honourable bannerdude is being played by russ abbot, it's very distracting
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:53 (4 days ago) Permalink
I don't think it's been properly explained? Just that royal blood possesses power etc
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:53 (4 days ago) Permalink
The blood of kings has powerful magic. Don't believe they've been more specific than that yet.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:54 (4 days ago) Permalink
i like the torture scenes myself. just sort of cheap lolz at theon.
isn't it to make another evil ghost thing? stannis asked her and she said he was too weak. presumably it used his blood time. doesn't sound like great things are in store for the poor lad.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:55 (4 days ago) Permalink
presumably it used his blood *the previous time i meant to say.
i think this was quite clearly discussed.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:56 (4 days ago) Permalink
oh yes that rings a bell. did they say who exactly he wanted to assassinate with it, seems like there's a fair few contenders at the mo
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:31 (4 days ago) Permalink
he just wants a new friend i think.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:42 (4 days ago) Permalink
Wait so if Theon isn't even in the third book are they just going to keep the character popping up in pointless scenes for two seasons just so Alfie Allen has something to do?
The scene with the bear was awesome.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:46 (4 days ago) Permalink
There's going to be an awful lot of that coming up once we're beyond the third book in storyline terms. Feast For Crows and Dance With Dragons each deals with half the cast, with the stories running broadly in parallel. Be much easier in the tv show to just run it as a single continuous story.
― Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:51 (4 days ago) Permalink
There's been a lot of press around someone at HBO saying they see the show as running for 7 seasons. So Season 4 will be the second half of book 3, right?
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 13:36 (4 days ago) Permalink
xp presumably the events of those books are happening at the same time at each other, then? It would be more confusing to show them one at a time, so.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 13:39 (4 days ago) Permalink
well they're already integrating books 3, 4 and 5 to an extent and they'll continue to run 4 and 5 parallel as windsor says. book 3 material shouldn't stretch past the 3rd or 4th episode of season 4 at the outside.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 13:42 (4 days ago) Permalink
i kept thinking of the bear fight from Anchorman and couldn't take the scene too seriously!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 14:59 (4 days ago) Permalink
I thought Melisandre wanted a king babby? ie I thought part of her plan was to bone down with Gendry. Or am I imagining that?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:05 (4 days ago) Permalink
could be projecting a little...
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:07 (4 days ago) Permalink
was the smoke monster a king babby? didn't stannis express some wife-related qualms around the time of its inception?
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:09 (4 days ago) Permalink
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:11 (4 days ago) Permalink
yes it would not really work to drop major characters for seasons at a time tbh
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:13 (4 days ago) Permalink
i wonder how true that is. i guess they didn't want to be the ones to find out. but there is some much else going on besides.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:14 (4 days ago) Permalink
if u tell an actor he's not going to work for two seasons or whatever then good luck getting him back when you need him
but also i can't imagine the audience would go for that
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:20 (4 days ago) Permalink
didn't work too well in the books iirc so why not take the lesson.
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:23 (4 days ago) Permalink
Other shows (ie Lost) have managed to get away with dropping characters and then bringing them back but I'd imagine it's contractually A LOT more straightforward this way, especially with in-demand actors.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:24 (4 days ago) Permalink
Alfie Allen is in demand?
Kind of hope that just to make things completely unsubtle, ie par for the course, the torturer is going to hang Theon's Willy around his neck, would be a quaint visual parallel to Jaime's hand.
― Gregor Sansa (Leee), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:32 (4 days ago) Permalink
maybe they could graft Theon's willy onto Jaime's stump
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:38 (4 days ago) Permalink
I pictured it more as stuck on a warning pike a'la Ned's head.
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:38 (4 days ago) Permalink
New meaning to getting speared.
― Gregor Sansa (Leee), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:40 (4 days ago) Permalink
pretty sure that if a bear smacks you in the nek, it doesn't leave shallow cuts. it just sorta knocks your head off.
on the other hand BART THE BEAR THE SECONDhttp://www.ibtimes.com/bart-bear-steals-show-latest-episode-game-thrones-1255199#
― UTW, USA, ILX LIFER (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:11 (4 days ago) Permalink
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this is no way to speak of ray winstone's offspring
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:34 (4 days ago) Permalink