HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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also: 'they will come up with their own ending, more quickly and as validly as george r r martin manages to come up with his'

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

amazing that its been 4 or 5 years since i was really into these books and the next one's still not out...dude isn't gonna finish the series is he :(

it's definitely good tv series material though if they're willing to run it out long enough and don't try to cram each book into a single season (the 3rd book alone is like as long as the entire lord of the rings iirc)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

you think they ought to make it longer? u mad

thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

not necessarily make it longer, just not do 1 book = 1 season when the books are of varying length and plot complexity (4th book could be cut down by a ton for example to make room for more stuff from the 3rd book)

ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

They could just do more episodes for the season w/ the 3rd book. I don't see how they could split it up though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gobbled up all the books on the recommendation of ILXors. I'm looking forward to the HBO show, but mostly I just want the new book! And then I guess there are two MORE of these books that he has to write, in-between blogging about the Jets and going to fantasy conventions? Sigh...

schwantz, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

expected to air around this time next year, alongside the second season of Treme.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for the crossover episode.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 book = 1 season makes total sense

they can make that work

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 June 2010 11:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Never read the books, but pretty keen on watching this.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 19 June 2010 13:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

what is the point of this if the dude won't even finish the books???? Goddamn stop re-writing them already!!!

ears are wounds, Sunday, 20 June 2010 10:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

also hbo shows arent always 1 season = 1 year

sopranos took long breaks

― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

name one HBO show besides Sopranos that didn't/doesn't do a new season every year

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually, I'll name another, Curb Your Enthusiasm, but i think that's it

fantast (ico) (some dude), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Wire had a significant gap between seasons 3 and 4, but that was partly because they weren't sure if they were going to renew it.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

at this point, I am wondering if it might not be better if some talented cable TV writers finished this thing for him. I am losing faith that he has any idea where he is going with these books.

richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

We should start bitching about the BSG/Lost style finalefail.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 17:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Turns out Tyrion is Jesus.

schwantz, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

big love took a break right?

ian, Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

If it hasn't it needs to.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Carcetti is Littlefinger

That character means nothing to me obv.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:12 (5 years ago) Permalink


hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that is good casting

richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 12 July 2010 23:22 (5 years ago) Permalink


Really looking forward to this!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

more teasing

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

I hope this starts a trend of classy TV fantasy adaptations. Someone should do Perdido Street Station (though would be fucking expensive). Do these books have monsters and magic and shit, or is it just guys fighting with swords?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 13 September 2010 15:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

They have dragons and undead.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

only in the first and last episodes of this season though, that saves you some money right there

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

perdido street station feels basically like a miniseries already! which is unfortunate in that the other bas-lag stuff wouldn't really work as further series of.

thomp, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Exclusive EW pics

Martin has penned the 8th episode.

Also EW On the Set

There's a new language or something that's better than Klingon it says.

Gukbe, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Looks nice and wintry

Number None, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't the guy in the first scene of the trailer also in the Lord of the Ring movies? I guess all "serious" fantasy movies/series now have to look kinda murky with muted colours, since LotR did that. Will anyone make a colourful fantasy movie anymore?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah thats sean bean... ive been reading the first book and im not a fantasy guy at all but its p. good... a lot of the early parts of the story take place in a wintery shithole, which limits your color choices... plus its kind of 'gritty' fantasy and they wanna convey that style/mood...

lotr movies were pretty colorful imo, like that part where they're in elfburg and the dwarf goes AND U HAVE MY AXE... lots of stuff actually... its just the color palette changes depending on context... i mean what do you want dude, rainbows over mount doom.. (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Las

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, not necessarily, of course it depends on the story... It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice. For example, based on the trailer the Avatar The Last Airbender movie has the same kind of look even though the source material is actually quite colourful and fun.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

have you read the books? if there is one story that needs to look "gritty", it's this one.

get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

So is each season going to be one book?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

God, I hope not. To me the best way to do it would be to break it down and rearrange in a linear timeline. Jump around between characters, like any good television drama with a ton of characters tends to do.

get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's just that every recent live action fantasy seems to have had a similar muted colour palette as LotR, as if gritty fantasy was suddenly the only choice.

yes because there have been so, so many live action fantasy movies recently

BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

still lolling at "muted color palette of LotR"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's not fantasy, it's HBO

A decent little write-up about the 10-minute making of that premiered and also the branding of the show.

Gukbe, Monday, 6 December 2010 05:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh, and that Inside of Game of Thrones featurette:

Gukbe, Monday, 6 December 2010 05:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

This looks so good. I really, really hope it succeeds and gets George off his fat ass to finish the story before they catch up.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

April cannot come soon enough.

schwantz, Monday, 17 January 2011 17:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

im still peeved they didnt get tamzin merchant to play daenerys. her replacement doesnt look inbred enough imo. at least they got the iron throne right.

and yes this will be just for nerds.

, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hopefully it will do for us nerds who haven't read the books as well.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

i have the speakers off, did they cut this trailer to 'power'

this looks so awful. the throne of swords is a pretty stupid idea for a visual and this is not executed in any way that'd serve to redeem that

thomp, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 10:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I pulled out my old copy to read again before the adaption starts and I'd totally forgotten I have an autographed copy.... lol.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

hi five!

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

A lot of people here can slog through all sorts of comics, sitcoms, cartoons, films. Tough bastards.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

to be fair there are not a lot of real prose stylists writing high fantasy (even vance only dabbled in that genre for 3 books)-- writers of that bent have tended more toward gray-area lit-fantasy (Wolfe, Crowley, Blaylock, etc)

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I haven't read the book but p much every excerpt I've seen is just head-smackingly painful, idk how people slog through 1000s of pages of that garbage

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, July 15, 2015

hmm could it be the passages excerpted are typically the lolsiest?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 20:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

no, there's all kinds of excerpts all over the net

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

it's just a story.

ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

no, there's all kinds of excerpts all over the net

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:01 PM

seems like it would be easier/less time-consuming to read the books vs combing the net for excerpts but chacun à son goût and all that

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

it's not like this is some obscure piece of work, this is a cultural juggernaut that's all over the place, I don't have to go looking v hard for GoT stuff to be in my face

my opinion of him as a crap writer stands

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i take it you haven't read Ready Player One

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

because seriously given what gets held up as "good" in genre work, GRRM is a titan.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

moving goalposts here

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

why is fantasy writing so bad its def worse than scifi and like way worse than crime right

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Pron opened the musty tome, releasing a cloud most foul. "Reminds me of a maiden I once knew," he muttered out loud. Ser Mud of the Bog people merely tilted his head in response. Pron signed. He is a fool, thought Pron, and deaf as an Earless Man. But as long as he held a sword and I am at risk, he remains my fool.

Pron sighed, setting down the book. "The maiden, she smelled terribly," Pron explained, more out of habit than in hopes of reaching the impenetrable Mud. "But not nearly as terribly as I did after a night draining seven flagons. I seem to recall waking in a barn, nestled in a pile of fresh dung. Or was it a pool of my own filth? No matter. It was nothing a warm bath could not remedy. But you wouldn't know about that, would you?" Ser Mud again offered no response. "I am speaking of course of baths, not bedding maidens." Pron paused. "Anyway, the book."

The book had not been opened in a hundred summers, at least, but Pron knew it held clues as to his own lineage. Men had fought and died for knowledge less valuable than what waited between its covers, and for once Pron felt fortunate for all those hours spent learning letters. In fact, were it not for whores and drink, reading would be his greatest love. While his brothers spent their days swinging swords and prodding at reluctant maidens, Pron spent his days and nights engrossed in books, learning of the world while worldly pleasures waited in the wings. Needless to say, he had spent much of his life making up for lost experiences, if not swordplay than most certainly prodding. Perhaps one day someone will write a book about me, thought Pron. Or several, even. Long ones. Really, really long ones. He ran a finger down the center of the page while Ser Mud picked wax out of his ear. Pron shuddered. If only this deaf fool beside me could read, he thought. When we return home I'd gift him several books of hygiene from the royal library.

As if on cue, Ser Mud swallowed whatever it was that stuck to the end of his forefinger. Pron stifled a gag and turned back to the book.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I wouldn't even read GOT cos I'm more into it as a TV show, it seems written well for TV. If I want a medieval fix I will read non-fiction/history.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:36 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Josh, which book is that from, ACOK?

:wq (Leee), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


My biggest issue with GRRM is that I really do admire his world building and huge family trees and all sorts of other little details that do eventually pay off, or at least reward attention. But at the same time, he has this distinctly by-the-word spin in place style. That may be why the shows work so well, because it really propels the pulpy plot forward, usually intelligently, jettisoning the unnecessary stuff while accenting just the right world-building details. Then again, my understanding is that things the show seems to be getting right may seem wrong to those familiar with the book, and of course, the show has had more than its fair share of unforced errors. Like, let's change this part ... (yay!) ... into THIS part! (boo!)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 22:03 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I finished the first season and the first couple of episodes of 2. WOW so crazy. The Queen Cersei is so amazingly evil. She's so mean to Tyrion in that one scene! Ahhh! So evil!

The King Joffrey is detestable too. They are both so great as villains, they really are. It is fun to see that the larger world of GOT is full of characters that will hopefully fuck them up. I get the feeling they are in over their heads but the Lannisters seem to have a knack for survival.

The Daenerys storyline has taken off even more than I thought it would. I was wondering if something would happen to Drogo and then just a few episodes later she is burning him and the sorceress who failed to save his life. She lost the power that he wielded but it is cool bc she is creating something of her own. With dragons.

The baby dragons scene at the end of season 1 was AWESOME. I am so psyched for the rest of the show.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 July 2015 03:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Loving your enthusiasms, keep posting. You're still some way off peak craziness/fuckedupness.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 17 July 2015 08:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I have always loved pop fantasy it's easily my favorite genre. This show is some great stuff.

I do appreciate the two scheming advisers, they are very Shakespearean. The last episode I saw there was a scene with some people having sex on a chess board. Super writerly. That's the sense of humor this show has.

Cersei is very hard to read, her expression and reaction to anything comes across as perpetually dissatisfied. I get the feeling she has been doing this a long time, ruling in all but name while her husband was off hunting and whoring. She has powers but they are dependent on the whims of the murderous men around her, much like Daenerys.

Cersei makes me think of Hatshepsut ( Hers is a very interesting story. Queen pharaoah of Egypt for 22 years, married to her half brother, usurped the throne from her step-son and made him her military advisor.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:38 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Blowing through season 2. It isn't as good as season 1. I could do without the entire Qarth subplot, really. I liked her Daenerys character arc last season bc she was consistently dealt the most insane and/or horrible circumstances and then powered through on the force of her own will. This season is more kind of pointless, her commanding her tribe or her hosts or anybody in sight to do things for her, them to refuse, and her to quickly sentence them to a firey death from above in the unforeseen future.'

The newer characters and the cast of all the different parties vying for kingship is interesting but the heart of the show remains the cruel and always entertaining Lannisters.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 July 2015 16:55 (1 week ago) Permalink

Would watch a buddy cop spin-off with Tyrion and his bodyguard.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 July 2015 16:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

Ssn 2 is great but more for Kings Landing stuff
I was having trouble remembering back to when Dany's story was interesting

Most Scientifically Beautiful Face (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 July 2015 18:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

Don't worry, Dany's story picks up MASSIVELY in s3. Then nose dives a bit, but I still think most people underrate her as a character.

OTM that s1>s2, and that the best bits of s2 revolve around the Lannisters.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 18 July 2015 18:54 (1 week ago) Permalink

The Lannisters are the best house all round really, that's pretty much a fact.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 18 July 2015 18:56 (1 week ago) Permalink

Yes definitely.

Ok the end of season 2 was nice. I guess if you are holding off on showing the dragons until the last episode again you could do worse with a scene where they are all shooting fire through Daenerys and roasting her would-be captors.

The army of the undead....woah. They really nailed the sound when the undead king screeches there. Is it the dead who die beyond the wall that come back, or all of them? Cos there are a lot of corpses showing up all around...

I guess it is good to know they can be killed by fire. Probably should be placing all bets on the fire-proof woman with fire-breathing dragons. Still, Sansa said it best when she predicted Joffrey would survive, "The worst ones always do".

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 July 2015 20:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

Woah.... just finished S4E2. I did NOT see Joffrey dying, I thought he would be around to torment everyone for the entire series. They did give him a great send-off, it's like a greatest hits of horrible spitefulness. And Cersei grinning off to the side through the whole thing, trying to hold back the laughter. These are some of the most evil characters I have seen portrayed on screen in a long time.

I really liked how the episode was playing w fan assumptions. "Oh who would kill someone at a wedding?", that warrior guy whose kin was killed by Tywin, Shae being as LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS AS POSSIBLY while Tywinn threatens to kill the next whore seen w Tyrion. I half expected that cake to have a dead prostitute in it that he had just sliced in half.

Really hope Shae is gone for good, she was just annoying for most of her screen time by the end. Tbh she really took me out of it. It seemed like the dangerous and violent world of the Lannisters (and her dead fellow prostitutes) was entirely separate from whatever life she had w Tyrion.

Joffrey's eyes turned that pale blue color, the same color as the army of the undead. I'm hoping his body is stolen away before they can do a formal cremation and he becomes an undead Joffrey w 100x the evil of his former self.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 19:43 (1 week ago) Permalink

think you might be misreading cersei's reaction to her son's grizzly death

(extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 19:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

Hah no i meant the little play before that, and the gleeful abuse of his uncle.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 19:49 (1 week ago) Permalink

Tho thank God they shut down his plan on involving Robert Stark's head in the preceedings.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 19:50 (1 week ago) Permalink

just wait until you get to season 5 and the army of the dead shows up led by Ned Stark riding Dany's dead dragon

Most Scientifically Beautiful Face (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 20:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

Dude save that for the spoiler thread.

:wq (Leee), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 20:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

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