Food in whose name the worst atrocities have been committed

I know (re. the pizza w/ emmental + scallops)! I ordered it, unsuspecting what was to come. Execution was more the problem than the ingredients, though I tend to agree that fish + cheese is a bad combo.

it so isn't

my personal vote might be fish and chips. it always sounds like a good idea when i see it on a menu and it is always a grave error.

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oh fuck that sandwich is going to kill people

aw on what planet continent is 'fish and chips' ALWAY a grave error?

for jj

RFI: The Traditional Irish Fry-Up

fish and chips is a good shout. my personal vote would be any 'traditional' 'british' 'food'. fortunately my countrymen don't really attempt much mediterranean, but sheesh pork joint and roast potatoes can be dismal

also bad casserole ;_;

not a fan of fish and cheese at all

que that is apparently a 'cake'

and strangely nough, that thread about the daily mail seems to have an indepth discussion of the merit of a potato farl vs fried soda bread.

xxp lol no I know - found out the hardest way

i'm not saying f&c is bad, i'm saying i've had a lot of really bad f&c

that cake is going to kill me, tonight. i can feel it.

btw the 'traditional irish/english (under protest)' fry up' is a genuine contender for this title.

^^^yes

Fish and chips = awesome, sorry, jolly good

fortunately my countrymen don't really attempt much mediterranean,

fish and chips is mediterranean, funny enough

"vegetarian fry" as a breakfast option in dublin café- good strong evidence that you're in west brit territory imo

FUCK YOUR MUSHROOMS I DEMAND CREMATED PIGFLESH

Maybe chili is another one? Eh, I think chili's pretty hard to fuck up, maybe because even at its best it's just stewed meat + maybe beans (stfu Texas). I suppose if people start adding shit like creme fraiche or rhubard to chili, then we can start talking.

Good fish and chips is okay - not a fan of chips, per se (shoestrings are far superior imso). I've had fish poached in cream before but dairy and fish and even mayo and fish make me uncomfortable, especially ADM indistrial grade oil mixed with bland, factory-raised eggs kind of mayo. Sure, I've had aioli with my bouillabaisse but I'm always a little sqeamish about getting it in the broth. I don't even make tuna fish with mayo much anymore - I just get tuna in oil and use lots of lemon and lemon zest and s and p. The whole neo-sushi shit with weird mayo type things on it makes me want to retch.

fish and chips is mediterranean, funny enough

Haha, well most good food is tbh

I'm not saying F&C is bad - often it's lovely. But soggy, terrible chips + soggy batter + tasteless, chewy cod = why. why. why.

Creme fraiche in chili sounds intriguing, though.

but i think the question is more about common (or not) preparations of food that are atrocities, not badly prepared examples of food that is actually ok- ie not fish and chips, more like quail eggs on pizza or w/e

apparently chili with creme fraiche is "a thing" acc. to the google, e.g. "Delicious recipe for Mango Chilli Creme Fraiche on Foodista.com, the cooking encyclopedia everyone can edit." and Results 1 - 10 of about 416,000 for chili creme fraiche

quail eggs on pizza aren't so crazy! There's definitely pizzas w/eggs on them so why not quail eggs? I, for example, cannot abide pizza w/chicken on it but then I cannot bear pizza with potatoes on it either.

Chinese is def right up there with pizza in my book, and prob ahead of Mexican. Cause even bad, Americanized Mexican can be good in a drunk-at-3am sort of way. Bad Americanized Chinese is so prevalent that people say "oh Chinese? nah not a fan" without ever having had good, more authentic Chinese. There's one place nearby that has good shit in addition to the kung paos and general tso stuff, and taking people there is always a revelation to them.

i mean, i knew that there were different kinds of salsa for different dishes, but i thought even mexicans had their own chip dipping salsa.

They do. Don't know if I'd trust the NYT for Mexican cuisine info.

xp yeah I was thinking of types of food that leave room for specification, and it's in the specification where things go wrongly: like taking pizza and adding lettuce and hollandaise sauce, e.g. The idea of pizza opened up great possibilities for good but also for ill.

pizza is probably the answer. i would also say "seafood" or any "ethnic" recipe originating from the back of a box or can of goods.

ok eggs on pizza in general, but quail eggs stands as a particular example.

creme fraiche is p good on any type of ground beef dish, partic on the 2nd day.

Part of these discussions here stems from our categorical thinking. Flatbread is ubiquitous. Pizza is Italian, though there are American versions of pizza that many Americans think of as normative. Even if you include them all, does a thai chicken pizza really count as a pizza or should it be considered either 'bad' or other? Beans and meat is hardly limited to America, but if I make a boar ragu w/cannelini beans, take a wand mixer to it, add creme fraiche and hives, should I even bother calling it chili, even if I add some traditional chili spices?

starting now anyone who uses the word "authentic" on this thread is getting a suggest ban from me

i dunno but i would eat yr boar chilli and to hell with the doubters.

if you call your wild boar ragu, it's a ragu
if you call your wild boar chili, it's chili

going with nachos on this one.

xxp thread police severely underworked imo

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Fish and dairy isn't always wrong. If you are making fish pie with smoked haddock you have to prep the haddock by poaching in milk. My mom makes an awesome artery-clogger of a dip featuring crabmeat, shrimp and Philadelphia cream cheese baked into a hollowed-out round loaf.

I will also nominate bad British greasy spoon breakfasts for this - so much angst could be avoided by keeping the bacon frying that little bit longer.

If you are making fish pie with smoked haddock you have to prep the haddock by poaching in milk.

^^^The problem here is that you are making something called "fish pie"

Flatbread is ubiquitous but I've not seen anyone putting pineapple or bbq sauce on lahmacun, for instance.

cause lahmacun isn't American?

more examples of fish and dairy: shrimp in primavera or alfredo pasta. most Indian curries made in the US/UK have some cream in them. and a slice of cheese on a filet-o-fish!

Fish and dairy isn't always wrong.

Oh, I agree! There are plenty of recipes with milk or cream and I don't mind those if they don't hide or denature the taste of the fish.

No results found for "hawaiian lahmacun".

thank goodness though perhaps this is a business opportunity as well

Just on the pizza front, I rather foolishly, weakly, idiotically fell into a pizza place in Venice - I was tired and hungry and knew it was a mistake, so I kind of got what I deserved -

What I got was a massive crisp with a frisbie of cheese on top which, where it hadn't hardened, had formed into globules of grease. I don't know what vintage the wine was but it made the top of my head tingle and made everything else seem very far away but very loud. I was lucky though. A young French couple next to me ordered calzoni and she a cheese pizza. I was on the verge of warning her, as I remembered the 'quattra formaggia' pizzas inexplicably for sale in English supermarkets. (Would you like a cheese, cheese, cheese and cheese pizza plz? No, not today thank u.'). What he actually got was a tinned tomato and cancer pizza. It swam gently in some red slime and had a massive black buboe coming out of the top of it.

It looked so bad we all started laughing when the waiter put it down in front of him. None of us finished these things, and we all went to a wine bar and ate little bits of sea food on polenta which was lovely and what we should have done in the first place.

how 'bout all the strange flavors of ice cream out there?

can't believe no one thought to respond to lj and answer the thread qn at the same time with this - List your culinary disasters.

In Madrid two nights ago I had a tapa consisting of shrimp cooked in a curry sauce, wrapped in pasta, and then served in a queso fresco sauce. It was good! That's kind of a fish + cheese deal.

Actually tapas are ripe for the kind of abuse I'm talking about, though "tapas" doesn't single out a single type of food so it doesn't really work.