maybe i'm being poisoned by proximity
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 March 2010 07:39 (fourteen years ago) link
also all the valley girl voices and harajuku girl stuff are clearly gwen stefani, who's really patient zero for a lot of the goofy female star stuff going on in pop the last few years
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― ronnie james dyao (some dude), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 07:40 (fourteen years ago) link
when gaga's on the chartsboy you gon thinkyou gon think she invented quirk
― ronnie james dyao (some dude), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 07:55 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a gagafication, clap, clap bravo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 March 2010 08:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually it raises the question, to what extent has Gaga been influenced by the aforementioned high-profile female rappers of the 90s/00s? Like it seems a pretty reasonable thing to interrogate, esp. re Lil' Kim and Missy, but I haven't run across anyone writing about that. Are people just more comfortable linking her up to Peaches or whatever indie electro type person, or has Gaga herself emphasized other lines of influence? (Or, I guess, is the connection all in my head?)
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, i guess that really belongs in Gagathread - - - will repaste.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda crossing over w/ the bedrock thread w/ this post but since it's about "my chick bad" i figured it might as well go in here
anyway the spring break performance of "my chick bad" is so funny
http://www.musicistheheartofoursoul.com/2010/03/mtv-spring-break-2010-performances.html
first of all, for some reason minaj is yelling her verse and it seems like she can't really find her footing in these massive heels, so it comes off like an amy poehler parody or something
also the best part is that her fembot routine gets thrown off by people accidentally batting beach balls at her
― 2 guys 1 jag (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link
ok the line on the lemonade remix where she threatens to "put this pussy on your chipped tooth" is so much worse than the sideburns line ever was
― surmudgeon (some dude), Saturday, 24 April 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
there's no such line on the remix i have?
i'm in a tricky little moodi trick these little dudesi tell 'em that i love 'em but i never really dosee i like pretty shoesand i like pretty minksand i like sightseeing the pyramids and the sphinx
she's not as good as trey songz or fabolous, who are both GREAT on it, but her verse is fine
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 24 April 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
also this seems not to be the thread where "massive attack" was discussed, but i definitely love that song. and the video.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 24 April 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
It's actually on the Fabolous - "For the Money" remix. That "Lemonade" verse is boring and fuck off with the "minks," too.
― Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Saturday, 24 April 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, and the complete couplet is “I told Fab 'Get that Michael Knight KITT Coupe' / before I put this pussy on your chipped tooth."
― Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Saturday, 24 April 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
IT'S GUCCI
― dyªº (dyao), Saturday, 24 April 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not sure what i think about massive attack yet; i still want to hear her sound good and that might be the track that I can grudgingly commit to? not sure yet.
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 24 April 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
4got that song existed -- is it getting any radio play outside of hot 97
― yo gotti or notti (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 24 April 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
#65 on the R&B chart, which is to say not really
― surmudgeon (some dude), Saturday, 24 April 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Mmmassive Attack gets discussed on I'm Nicki Minaj, Nicki Lewinsky, Nicki the Ninja, Nicki the Boss, Nicki the Harajuku Barbie ... prob should lock one or the other of these threads since they're both effectively open-ended Minaj-watch.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
locking seems excessive, but i'm fine w/ the other one being the default thread in the future. i just revived this one because this is the thread where we talked about the 'sideburns' line.
― surmudgeon (some dude), Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
"my chick bad" is my jam until nicki comes in, I mean not that luda's verses are amazing but the "nightmare on elm street and guess who's playing freddy!" thing is like a whole nother level of get this shit off my radio now
― history tayne (crüt), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
the thing about that line is that it would work for me alright if she didn't also say "friday the 13th and guess who's playing jason," putting both those references in the first in the exact same construction feels so amateurish and lazy.
i have a grudging respect for the uncompromising schtick overload of "Massive Attack" but "Your Love" is just such a lame-ass retreat in the other direction.
― itt tech (some dude), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
also imo Nicki is really the lest of "My Chick Bad"'s problems, shitty beat, shitty hook, worst Luda verses ever
― itt tech (some dude), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
emilys: "If Luda's chick does stuff that he can't put in words, why did he think a rap would be the best way to express his feelings?"
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the best thing about "my chick bad" is nicki in the video
i really unapologetically love "massive attack" - i love how it takes a few listens to arrange itself in your head but once it does you pretty much grow to love every aspect of it
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
what do you think of the tinny timid generic "Your Love" though
― itt tech (some dude), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
is that the terrible autotune one? unless it's been changed significantly (completely) since the version i heard last year, i dislike it v much
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"Massive Attack" is a lot stickier than I would have expected the first time I heard it. I have "Mmmassive attack! Mmmmassive attack!" and "Tom toms over here bigger than a monster/ Blak! Blak! Blaka!" stuck in my head all the time, which doesn't quite translate into me wanting to listen to it.
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
there's nothing good about "my chick bad" -- worst single of the year so far
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
it almost erases any goodwill luda had built up in the last year and a half or so doing remixes and stuff
massive attack = lol u have sean garrett on ur hook, c u l8r
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
aiyeeeeeeee i never heard my chick bad before fucking a this is horrible, luda what are you doing???????
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 14 May 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I have the same relationship with "Massive Attack" that Rev does, I think. The problem is that so little of the stuff between those headsticky points is particularly memorable.
"My Chick Bad," yeah... it's not the worst thing I've ever heard, but it's sorta uninspired and you'd think Ludacris of all people could do so much more with that premise! The references are really blah - she always brings a racket like Venus and Serena? Okay, yeah, I get the joke but is that as bad as your chick gets, Luda? Compare to "What's Your Fantasy?" and there's been a real loss of energy.
I maintain that it should have been a battle song with another male rapper, with them arguing over whose chick was badder... and then we get to Nicki's verse and we realize that she's BOTH their chicks! Or something.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
holy shit nicki was EPIC at the bet awards
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
just like, an utter trainwreck
nicki otm
http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20134850b083c970c-pi
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link
omg horrible :( oh well
― teledyldonix, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
# This Nicki Minaj video is making me hate hip-hop.
# It's not Nicki Minaj, herself. It's not even, really, the video, which strikes me as cheap, but not inappropriately so. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# I think it's me; i.e., me + these images + this music. I think I'm overwhelmed by the idea that this is insufficent. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# I was just overwhelmed by the sense that we have for the most part, failed the possibilities of the form, and what it calls for. Like... about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# ...it just struck me as kind of cowardly. Lacking audacity and courage. Kind of meaningless. None of the fire that, say, Sha-Rock brought. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# Here's what watching the Nicki Minaj video made me realize: For hip-hop to *become* something else, it will have to *do* something else. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
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# Otherwise, it will merely continue to slide into whatever package is open and the bottom of its descent and, then, take that shape. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# ...that culture is powerful. It changes people's thinking, it makes people wealthy, it becomes what we seek when our spirits are tired. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# It is not enough to merely consume it. We must make it, speak for it, or against it. Tell our children what is good, and why. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# Like, the Constitution is too important to leave to lawyers? Hip-hop is too important to leave to the people who make hip-hop. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
# We should debate hip-hop the way they debate the Constitution. Or municipal zoning, in city council meetings. With passion and intent. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck
― zvookster, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
where is that from?
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
it's actually a pretty great video for a pretty bad song. though i'm beginning to hear how "your love" could be made into something good (get rid of the ke$hatune for starters). i like her kimono-clad ninja style, cf this early video -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDySxBRFfc
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
this hits kinda hard IMO:
I was just overwhelmed by the sense that we have for the most part, failed the possibilities of the form, and what it calls for. Like......it just struck me as kind of cowardly. Lacking audacity and courage. Kind of meaningless. None of the fire that, say, Sha-Rock brought.
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Hip-hop is too important to leave to the people who make hip-hop
?
I love "your love," "lil freak" and "bedrock" btw
hate "my chick bad"
― peacocks, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
young money is the worst crew of all time it's so fucking embarrassing
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
this is weird! nicki pre-makeover??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujNFYKHTFWY
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
hooooly shit!!
i know every pic of her is retouched but it looks and sounds like they retouched her whole fucking life
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
That can't be real? Yikes!
― Loverboy (Spinspin Sugah), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm too busy lolling at the "G-stack" with the obvious $1 bill on it
― he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah not 100 percent sure that is real, but sometimes the way she says stuff esp. (beside the physical resemblance) really sounds like an earlier, less exaggerated version of how she talks now
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
it was from harry allen
― zvookster, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://rapradar.com/2010/07/23/bruce-willis-on-his-nicki-minaj-shout-out/
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
you know, i think it's really cool that nicki is the first openly queer rap star and even if i don't always like her shit, i am basically rooting for her because of this. i mean, of course the first openly queer rap star is a bisexual woman, but still, REALLY COOL.
― ksh is my clone (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 July 2010 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it is kinda cool -- like even before when there were rumors or speculation about other female rappers being gay or bi, it tended to be treated as a stigma or a dirty little secret.
― some dude, Saturday, 24 July 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link