Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

Not really. It's not terrible.

Yeah, I know the universe is always at stake in Who

this is rubbish, it's usually Local Politics On A Wee Planet or, for Pertwee, The Special School's Bus Of Aliens Are Attacking Slowly

for Pertwee, The Special School's Bus Of Aliens Are Attacking Slowly

For some reason, these are my favorites.

Sad, but I think they're contractually committed to the Daleks appearing every season

This was also the reason we all knew Davros was coming back as well.

would have been easier to have serial villains without rtd's incessant madcap "end of the daleks! the world! the universe! time itself! stake-raising.

I might have said this, and worse in previous years.

I have been avoiding posting here because of spoilers, btw. An awful, awful lot is out there about the series.

By which I mean I know a lot, and know you don't want to, so haven't risked exposing you to it.

That was one of the best things for me about Blink - because it actually did something with the idea of TIME TRAVEL

The Girl In The Fireplace did this as well. This could hopefully become a Moffatt thing. He plays a lot with the form of an episode in general - Silence In The Library had the world inside the computer programme, etc.

And Silence In The Library also played with time travel too, with River Song knowing the Doctor from the future, and all that jazz.

Yeah, I'm really, really trying to lower my expectations knowing that Moffatt actually has at least one entire season to play with these ideas (probably even longer) rather than just a single story. At the very least I hope we'll get better built season-long arcs than Bad Wolf.

Thanks for not spoiling btw - I do appreciate the attempt, especially knowing that the story and casting info for Who always seems to leak out really early, I don't know much about the upcoming season aside from a few hints that some elements of previous Moffatt stories will return.

By Ann Widdecombe

Dr Who has changed again and so has his assistant. Even the Tardis has acquired bells and whistles. What next? K9 metamorphosed into a cat?

I wish them every success in whatever worlds they travel but I have seen each Doctor and none has done it quite like Patrick Troughton did it.

He was a memorable Saint Paul as well and a convincing schoolmaster in Dr Finlay’s Casebook.

Sylvester McCoy, the actor who played Doctor Who for two years in the 1980s, has revealed that left-wing scriptwriters hired by the BBC wrote propaganda into the plots in an attempt to undermine Margaret Thatcher’s premiership.

Forgot to mention I saw him in a pub about a month ago

Egged him on did you? Plied him with drinks?

He looked a bit unsteady on his feet. Not the drink, I think his health's not great.

Is this why Widdecome has been rocking the troughton Doctor's hair do wig all these years?

hi dere new website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/

Steven Moffat, speaking in 1995, on Doctor Who.

" …when I look back at Doctor Who now. I laugh at it, fondly. As a television professional, I think how did these guys get a paycheck every week? Dear god, it's bad! Nothing I've seen of the black and white stuff - with the exception of the pilot, the first episode - should have got out of the building. They should have been clubbing those guys to death! You've got an old guy in the lead who can't remember his lines; you've got Patrick Troughton, who was a good actor, but his companions - how did they get their Equity card? Explain that! They're unimaginably bad. Once you get to the colour stuff some of it's watchable, but it's laughable."

He likes Davison though. But that's about it.

http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com/archive/tsv43/onediscussion.html

He's OTM though. Most of the first Hartnell season and the first Baker season, ie the bits I've watched all the way through, are largely terrible. Not because of the lack of bells and whistles or effects or whatever the fuck it is Rusty thinks he brought to the table, the plots just aren't very interesting and there's no tension and the ending to almost every story is awful. I'm including Genesis of the Daleks in this.

My nephew has seen Saturday's episode, the lucky wee sod. I'm not asking him what he thought, because he doesn't understand the concept of not blabbing everything and is too young to give subtle hints, so I'm just not going to talk to him until Sunday.

aww, I just watched Genesis and was pretty entertained. admittedly my standards for old Who are probably lower than I had even for most cartoons I watched during the 80s and 90s

My nephew has seen Saturday's episode, the lucky wee sod.

Someone in my office saw it in London a month or two ago but wouldn't tell us anything.

They did a thing up in Inverness for it, and because my nephew is in school with Karen Gillan's niece, his class got to go.

I am very much not stoked for the new series. Matt Smith is, let's face it, not David Tennant. In any way. I keep telling myself "b-b-but Steven Moffat", but it's not working. I may well not feel like this on Saturday night, I know.

Matt Smith is, let's face it, not David Tennant.

Bit early to judge that isn't it? He might be better. Weren't you the one going "I want Ecclestone back" for a series or so?

Yeah, but I am fickle. Hence disclaimer of probable reversal after an hour of watching him. I am basing this entirely on him being a boring bastard on Jonathan Ross the other night, btw.

I am excited about an Inverness accent on prime time telly though.

Also, I liked David Tennant plenty pre-Who, but didn't like him in the role. I just mean it's been a long time since there was a proper series. DT would give good press and get people (well, me) stoked. MS, well, doesn't.

long time - just over a year. I am so nu-Who boring popular culture kid it's actually embarrassing me reading back my own posts.

my girlfriend refuses to watch this w/o tennant

I feel Matt Smith may have residual cooties left over from his school days.

He caught them from childhood acquaintance Dom Passantino.

Never thought I could get into post-Dom ILX but here I am. Doesn't bode well for Smithy, does it.

I think I would refuse to watch this series if it was another with Tennant.

Doesn't bode well for Smithy, does it.

Oh thanks, you've just made me think of James Corden. In fact, he's in one, isn't he?

It probably took me a season and change for me to get used to Tennant, and I'm still not sure that I prefer him over Eccleston.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY4c2aWIyL0

GMTV's top 10 companions list is some bullshit, but KG is... nice. Despite her awful posture.

Amy Pond, River Song, looks like Moffatt is gonna be working his Finnegans Wake this series.

"Amazing, interesting face."

PS I would call her posture "sassy" or "coy."

awww Lil Ailsa saying her prayers.

That was medium awesome

Wish he'd taken the 8 yr old version with him, she'd have been a fantastic companion.

Though to be fair I wouldn't have really really fancied her the way I do with the one he did take. Er, obviously.

He's playing it a bit close to tennant though, so far.

BEST DOCTOR EVER (just countering all the moaners)

the bit where the camera revealed the door had opened was classic Moffat, kinda wish they had stuck to keeping it on that smaller ghost story level instead of extending the threat to the whole planet. interesting that we never actually saw Amy's Aunt. was there one arc meme dropped ("silence will fall") or two (something about "Pandorum"?)? not enough sarcastic Olivia Coleman despite the extra episode length. but totally good enough.

Already said BEST DOCTOR EVER to the fam. I think the silence and the Pandoracle(?) were connected.

i forgot when it was happening so only joined it at the what-do-tiggers-like-best bit (although: 'you're scottish, aren't you? fry something!' heeeeeee) but oh oh that was so fun!

new graphics: good
new music: terrible, shocker (altho i do appreciate the attempt to re-introduce some synthetic sounds, a bit)

WILD SPECULATION: Amy's aunt is River Song. They've both got red hair, River could have been off adventuring in time and space instead of looking after Amy the night Amy met the Doctor, er River / Pond... *shuffles feet*

WILDER SPECULATION: Amy is the young River! OMGWTFBBQ etc

Anyway, I really enjoyed that, although Smith does seem to be playing a bit Tennant so far. Hopefully he'll do more to put his own stamp on the role. The Who Bingo cards upthread were disappointingly OTM in several places :(

Have considered the possibility that Amy will somehow become River at some point, yeah. But iirc Alex Kingston shd be on dis ting at some point during the series??

Considering Moffat's love of the wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff I could see River and Amy being on screen together. Possibly without Amy (or the audience) realising River is her future self for maximum poignancy further down the line.

Does seem a bit predictable for Moffat's style, though...

Gotta say that if that rottweiler had spoken it would've pushed this episode even higher up the auspicious beginnings chart

Ha, the same thought occurred to me. I'll give S-Moff the benefit of the doubt and assume the budget didn't stretch to it.

I already regret "S-Moff", tbh.

also he wd probably have permanently scarred many, many children