2008 Primaries Thread

i think in idexed color myself

Contrary to what some bozo erroneously wrote, Giuliani didn’t skip Iowa from the get go. He stopped campaigning there to save him the embarrassment of putting in a fight and losing. Now at least he suffered a spinnable defeat. He has been through worse. 9/11 anyone?

Gingrich has been smart about anti-establishment strategy for the past few years, seems like a good match for Huckabee.

Contrary to what some bozo erroneously wrote, Giuliani didn’t skip Iowa from the get go. He stopped campaigning there to save him the embarrassment of putting in a fight and losing. Now at least he suffered a spinnable defeat. He has been through worse. 9/11 anyone?

-- Jeb

Is this Jeb Bush?

Gingrich has been smart about anti-establishment strategy for the past few years, seems like a good match for Huckabee.

That -- among other things -- is why I didn't mention him in my post. Gingrich is a good match for Huckabee as an advisor, in many ways.

Is this Jeb Bush?

lol

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The GOP woes come in part from the fact that their coalition involves gumming together interests that can't hold for very long. Hardcore evangelicals will no longer tolerate someone who merely pays lip service to evangelical social principals in order to advance "true conservative principals." Huckabee's success suggests that they may not even like those "true conservative principals" much.

Also I thing the GOP has created a monster it can't control with the immigration issue.

Hardcore evangelicals will no longer tolerate someone who merely pays lip service to evangelical social principals in order to advance "true conservative principals." Huckabee's success suggests that they may not even like those "true conservative principals" much.

I don't know about that. At the moment, there's no acceptable evengelical alternative to Huckabee (an alternative that might, for instance, be less populist and more economically conservative), so it's hard to test that theory.

ARG Poll on New Hampshire, taken before the Iowa Caucus:

Democrats:
Clinton 35% (+4)
Obama 31% (+4)
Edwards 15% (-6)
Richardson 5% (+0)

Republicans:
McCain 35% (+5)
Romney 25% (-5)
Huckabee 12% (+1)
Paul 9% (+2)
Giuliani 8% (-1)

and Zogby's NH Poll, also taken before Iowa:

Democrats:
Clinton 32%
Obama 26%
Edwards 20%
Richardson 7%

Republicans:
McCain 34%
Romney 30%
Huckabee 10%
Giuliani 9%
Paul 7%

that poll is moot

no its good for figuring the bounce

ARG was the worst in IA

http://www.flowbee.com/images/webrickbotflat2%20copy.jpg http://www.blushingbuyer.co.uk/product_images/Medium/990684;Warehouse;Warehouse.jpg

ARG is located in Manchester, NH -- so their NH polling may be a tad more accurate

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041025/041025_buckner_hmed_12p.hmedium.jpg

'iowa picked the outsiders'

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/60minutes/20080102/2ccce7cdba51e3ce18e4c1128435595c.jpg?x=314&y=180&q=85&sig=jw43dxE_rL_xXmhjENjBiw--

where huckabee @

republicans trying to erase him from history

Robert Zimmerman, a Democratic national committeeman and major Clinton supporter from Long Island, N.Y., echoed what many in the Clinton camp were saying overnight. “Being the underdog will be very liberating,” he said.

yes, thank god for third place.... SUCH FREEDOM
lolz

http://www.surveyusa.com/

where huckabee @

what am i, tracer wizard? this was the best i could find

not good enough

Clinton declares herself candidate for young voters
WASHINGTON - It wasn't long ago that Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign scoffed at the notion that young voters would deliver an election. How quickly thing can change.

Just seconds into her speech Friday morning, Clinton was declaring herself the candidate for America's youth — stealing a page from the new Democratic presidential front-runner, Barack Obama. The night before, the under-30 crowd came out in larger numbers than ever in Iowa caucuses normally dominated by the AARP-card set, delivering victory for the Illinois senator who promised to bring change to Washington.

That's why after her third-place finish in Iowa, Clinton got off her plane in New Hampshire and declared: "This is especially about all of the young people in New Hampshire who need a president who won't just call for change, or a president who won't just demand change, but a president who will produce change, just like I've been doing for 35 years."

"I'm running for president to reclaim the future — the future for all of us, of all ages, but particularly for young Americans," she said a few seconds later.

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/research/digitaltampering/stalin1+2.jpg

lolz at claiming 35 years of "experience"

why doesn't she just say I'M OLDER!

guys, think of the great political skills from hillary we could look forward to in a general election

cant remember if i got that from the onion or not

More candid stuff to come from Underdog Rodham! Maybe "Lobbyists are real Americans too" needs another workout.

i'm older and know better! heed my experience, you goddamn kids!

where did this hillarys a stone cold operator thing come from - what a train wreck god

clinton repeatedly jumping on obama bandwagon lolz. Yesterday it was all her nonsense about change, today it's the youth vote, tomorrow it'll be her street work in chicago.

and how she's black

She's a Smooth Operator except for healthcare taskforces and prez campaigns.

and how she's black

I picture her working hard to get an endorsement from Lil Mama

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/6/1/5/1/11111516-11111519-slarge.jpg

i am an octoroon!

btw look who pops up if you google hillary right now

http://i13.tinypic.com/89hyhx0.jpg

If the Obama campaign can point out that in the Dem chorus, he's doing all the calling and Hillary's doing all the responding -- it may be enough to portray her as a calculating opportunist

also, WTF is this about Hillary's claim of 'innocence'? what the fuck does she mean?

it means she's a virgin

btw love hillary's new babe in the woods meme
xpost dammit

(sorry that is not very nice--it probably means she thinks she hasn't been in washington to be corrupted???)

been in washington long enough

she did not have vince foster killed

where does chelseas come from?

Anglo-Saxon Cealc-h3ð = "chalk wharf"

oh ok

i have a hard time reconciling 'experience' with 'innocence,' honestly.

chelsea clinton is actually a chalk golem? awesome.

so did Blake.

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