another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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"got going" i take to mean bringing it to a whole new level, tail wags dog, etc.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link

well, yeah, alright.

these arguments should be made by someone who isn't mental tho.

("bringing it to a whole new level" is not very morbs imo.)

lipster grifter (history mayne), Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link

imo hoberman should "step up to the plate" and respond

lipster grifter (history mayne), Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, publicists go back before the 80s. the difference is the perception of the relevance of critics, and their increasingly disposable nature when it comes to marketing films (it seems more important in the case of Greenberg, but maybe that's part of where the outrage comes from).

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

dudes you are NOT taking an armo article seriously right?

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

he has good points amid the craziness, almost always. You know, like music writers.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

The abortion uproar seems more serious, but it’s easily dismissed as a mere nit-picking gripe. Even if I had advised abortion (which I did not), fact is, abortion remains a hallmark of the privileged class that extols Baumbach.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yah thats really good but this is my favorite part btw:

It’s unfortunate to have to point out that it is also a racist lynching by white critics of a black critic. Fact: Year after year, Hoberman never even deigns to review movies with black subjects, and he passes this racist contempt on to his epigones. That’s hegemony.

lacks some of the subtlety of other passages but makes it up for just going top level on the racial shit + fact colon construction

Lamp, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

would it be possible to reconstruct armonds political philosophy

max, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

is it some kind of n/l right-wing marxism?

max, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Not without a claims adjuster.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

j-hob responded btw:

Further unburdening his mind, Armond expresses displeasure that I criticized Pauline Kael's review of Shoah, panned a number of Steven Spielberg's movies, and most recently gave "traitorous praise to the movie Green Zone for encouraging insurrection in the American military." Sanity has prevailed, though. At least he hasn't called for my "retroactive abortion" (yet), even if I am "the scoundrel-czar of contemporary film criticism," a publicist-coddling representative of the film industry status quo as well as "a force behind racist snobbery in the film festival circuit (which led to such cultural disasters as Precious)" who, "like some nefarious, shadowy dictator in a Fritz Lang silent" exerts an influence that "stretches from coast to coast, institution to institution." It's true!

Tomorrow, I plan to get universal health care, settle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and bring the Dodgers back to Brooklyn.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Can Hoberman and Dart’s objections to the very mention of abortion mean that they are, in fact, Pro-Life? (I remember Hoberman railing against Juno for choosing life while praising the Romanian abortion thriller 4 Months, 3 Weeks, 2 Days.) Can’t wait to see Hoberman and Dart defend their Pro-Life position on the Glenn Beck show.

fuck that, give armond his own show imo

lipster grifter (history mayne), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

hoberman is pro-life! he hated the pro-life juno! he's pro-life!

lipster grifter (history mayne), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i shamefully admit that i would watch this guy on tv

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

funnier than Arrested Development, but then so was Shoah.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

u shldnt play tball when were discussing the pros here doc

is it some kind of n/l right-wing marxism?

gramscian whos been mugged

Lamp, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Shoah was objectively pro-jewish and pro-Netanyahu.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

has anyone read his bio of Tupac?

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

ayo i just posted that

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

dudes you are NOT taking an armo article seriously right?

― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:04 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

only film crit to take seriously imo

jenkem pensky (cozen), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Armond has a charming talent for piling adjectives and adverbs as if the use of them transformed the object of his wrath into whatever he thought of him.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Like if he called Hoberman a "narcoleptically slavish ladybug."

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

It exposes the hidden conspiracy by him and his backward children (you know who you are) to control film discourse.

kind of impressed that hoberman didn't take too seriously all these weird "global conspiracy" zingers

lipster grifter (history mayne), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

rly dunno how anyone can defend a. white here. this is the most transparently bad faith shit-talking i've seen displayed in serial public utterances this side of an NRO Corner writer

goole, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

http://flann4.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/strangelove.jpg

j hoberman and the "inner circle"

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"ok yeah i DID call for someone to be retroactively aborted, but it's not like he's offended, RICH PEOPLE love abortion!! ps he's RACIST, because of Precious!!"

goole, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

armond white always reminds me of his fellow esteemed critic meredith merridew:

http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsM/12385-19246.gif

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Gore Vidal?

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

"Given this crisis, I can no longer keep silent about the conspiracy"

My favourite line. Reminds me of something you'd find in a very long letter in a local newspaper's crank file.

gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

That’s hegemony.

^^^^ great title for a musical version of this white/hoberman dust-up

velko, Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll bet Glenn Kenny is cursing his new years resolution to stop dicking on other critics.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

From Armond's Participation in the Slate's 2004 Movie Club:

A review should be judged by its substance. Its argument should be engaged. Name-callers who ignore the argument are just being insulting; it's a feeble attempt to simply dismiss the argument.

stuffies don't have corn in 'em (KMS), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

perhaps Glenn hasn't fully resolved!

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2010/03/jim-hoberman-begins-his-work-day.html

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

would it be possible to reconstruct armonds political philosophy
― max, Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:12 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

1. all other critics are wrong
2. they are motivated by their hatred of america and me black people me/black people (same thing)

i think if you are taking this asshole seriously you have been conned

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

it's funny to see armond railing against "gossip obsessed media" with this particular column

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

By resurrecting the corpse of Georgia Brown’s undistinguished, forgotten movie-reviewing career

c'mon, son

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

this column is so absurd

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Watching The Squid and the Whale, I thought, "Laura Linney can probably write pithy reviews."

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Capsule review: Greenberg is a mite less obnoxious than Baumbauch’s other films (better photographed, too: I liked Harris Savides’ image of Stiller barely swimming across a pool—possibly an homage to my joke that Baumbach was the rat at the bottom of Margot at the Wedding’s pool).

hahahaha hold on -- armond is floating the idea that the 'greenberg' cinematographer trojan horsed a reference to an armond zing of baumbach into the movie??????

http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/GetOnMyComp_gm.jpg

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Don’t get it twisted: This Greenberg squabble is not about me

http://i35.tinypic.com/x1f448.jpg

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

This Greenberg squabble is not about me

this is like red-alert level of orwellian doublespeak. congrats, armond!

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck, i did not know this was the magazine's effing COVER STORY!!1!!ONE!

what kind of a readership is it?

truly batshit editorial move

lipster grifter (history mayne), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one that is unknown aside from the antics of armond white, from what i can glean

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Is there a gif of Armond White with him shrugging exaggeratedly captioned "THAT'S JUST ARMOND!" in 80s sitcom font?
Because if not, I would like to commission one...

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

perhaps Glenn hasn't fully resolved!

He's definitely slipped a few times, but I'm waiting for an all-out relapse that sees the 'Armond White-ism of the Week' come back.

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Friday, 19 March 2010 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The NY Press usta be well worth reading 10-20 years ago, when Armond shared film duty w/ Godfrey Cheshire, and there was a regular column by Dennis Perrin.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 March 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

*slowly backs away*

funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 March 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 March 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link


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