Talk Talk: Spirit of Eden V.S. Laughing Stock

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My first hundred listens of Spirit were on cassette so I didn't have that fatigue problem. Basically treated it as two EPs.

Chatbot LeFonque (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Likewise I'm so worn out by the start of New Grass that I float through that track (my favourite) and have pretty much no idea what happens afterwards. Luckily Runei is conducive to this.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Have any of you dudes heard Laughing Stock the song, by Love?

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Laughing Stock the song, by Grandaddy, is good

Nick ffs Runeii is fucking astonishing and as I keep saying its air of finality is absolute - it's one of the most certain pieces of music I've heard

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

But it's so uncertain! So hesitant, and tempting.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

it repeats the very, very simple and beautiful structure it has, and redoubles the final piano motif - doesn't get more comprehensive than that - zen-like iirc

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

there is literally nothing left to say - not many bands have even approached this point let alone reached it

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Voted Laughing Stock. It's the one I heard first.

^

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

I’ll pretty much buy any album going if someone tells me it sounds like ‘Laughing Stock’.

― AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 12:30 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Can you give some examples of these?

bham, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spirit of Eden?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

bark psychosis amirite

also hood - rustic houses, forlorn valleys and the occasional catherine wheel song

neither are that close, though. nobody's close.

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Autistic Daughters - Jealousy and Diamond

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Voted for Spirit of Eden, but Runeii is one of the most perfect things ever.

Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

My SoE/LS songs poll from a couple years back: The Spirit of Eden/Laughing Stock Individual Songs Poll

Also, a previous SoE vs. LS poll: Talk Talk: 'Spirit of Eden' vs. 'Laughing Stock'

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

I voted for Laughing Stock but they are both in my top 30 albums of all time.

For me Talk Talk are one of the few artists I can think of that got better with each album.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

not enough love for "the colour of spring"

shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

i prefer Laughing Stock but just barely.

akm, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

not enough love for "the colour of spring"

This is my personal fav. Talk Talk album.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Splits the difference between '80s new-wave/synth pop and eventually stripping the medium to its essential elements. ;-)

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh, you mean post rock?

shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(...yes?)

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

you're wrong anyway. "the colour of spring" is a lost balearic classic. ;)

shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

I got both of these at the same time & they sort of bleed into one monumental mega-album for me, so this is pretty much a coin toss.

These will always be their canonical albums, but it is worth mentioning that, as "transitional" albums go, The Colour of Spring is one of the best.

Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol xp

Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

listened to these back to back today and it's laughing stock by a good distance for me i'm surprised to say.

DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

really love the drumming on both of these records. fantastic stuff.

shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^^yes

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

whenever i want to imagine a really resonant, thick drum sound, such as when an oil can is struck, i imagine these records

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Laughing Stock for me, they're both incredible although I agree that the cowbell in 'Desire' is off-putting.

Gavin in Leeds, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

guys what the fuck, that drum solo in 'desire' is transcendent

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

i hate the drum solo in desire. not just the cowbell. but mainly the cowbell.

DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

-_-

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

def transcendant

shite new answers (cutty), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

^ dunno why you would want this but it's a version of 'Desire' w/o the drums

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

when the harmonica does a kinda donkey-bray feedback oscillation thing in the final run-through of the chorus and then reverses its pattern and then the organ comes back in, it is like music has been won

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's a failed experiment IMO but the same dude has tried to turn After The Flood into a 4-minute pop single! :D

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

...nah

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, not sure what's up w/ that.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Voting Spirit of Eden because it's the one where they made the break, and therefore more astonishing even if Laughing Stock is arguably an improvement on it in internal terms. Easily one of my favorite albums in the universe, too.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Laughing Stock gets the nod for me because it's got this great flow to it, where throughout the first half of the album the tension gets bigger and biger and the noisy sax in during "After the Flood" and it comes to a head in "Taphead" and then the problems get resolved during "New Grass" and the protagonist finds peace with "Runeii." Probably totally unintentional, of course, but I still like to interpret it that way. So anyway, no you can't change any of the song orders on Laughing Stock, but you could on Eden. And yes I am a total rockist bastard.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Laughing Stock" by Love is great.

Egg Foo Yung Joc, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

"oh fred in bed.."

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spirit Of Eden. I heard it first, and it changed my view of what music could be. Laughing Stock is an album where I appreciate the craftmanship, but it doesn't really move me. I listen to it for admiration, not enjoyment. SOE is inspiring and enjoyable.

basskitten, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Laughing Stock

jed_, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

voted for Laughing Stock bcz of Arthur Lee...

failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

BTW, if you love these albums and haven't checked out O'Rang (Lee Harris & Paul Webb - aka the Not Mark Hollises of Talk Talk), you should run to your local music dealer and correct that immediately. Both O'Rang albums are marvelous.

basskitten, Thursday, 18 March 2010 20:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

and out of print?

shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Available as downloads from eMusic last I checked, though. Maybe Amazon MP3 and/or itunes as well, dunno.

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 19 March 2010 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink


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