like the tiny glock chime that accompanies the word 'pins' in 'robot'.
Yeah, I'm waiting for the Pantha du Prince remix.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
This is my favourite musical moment of the year! I'm not wild about Mowgli's (I can't get over 'spoons' - it sounds really student) and Hollywood is ugh, but I'm Not A Robot is just really wonderful and exciting.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
I hate to say it but sometimes she reminds me of Jim Morrison. (Hate to say it because I don't like Jim Morrison.) Or even Genesis P-Orridge, possibly doing Jim Morrison, especially in that fast car bit at the end of "Girls"--that's exactly what it makes me think of: Genesis P-Orridge doing Jim Morrison.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 14 March 2010 05:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have a whole backlog of wacky things to say about this album.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 14 March 2010 05:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm starting to think that the latter third of this album has some of its strongest work. numb, rootless, oh no! and guilty have graduated from underwhelming to stunning.
(all of which just makes hollywood seem more and more inexplicable)
― m the g, Sunday, 14 March 2010 12:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
Agreed, at this point I think at least that those last four songs are as strong as the rest (but I like Hollywood too).
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 14 March 2010 12:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
I kind of like hollywood, but somewhat against my instincts/better judgement. it works best as a single, but seems highly anomalous in the context of the album.
― m the g, Sunday, 14 March 2010 12:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't see where it's so removed thematically from her overall concerns about success/glamor, the ambivalence that runs throughout much of the album. And I don't hear it is sonically so different from "Oh No!" or "Girls," so I don't know. Speaking of "Girls," some of the same sort of complaints that could be made about Hollywood's lyrics could be made about it, I think. If anything "I Am Not a Robot" seems out of place somehow, even though it's very likely her strongest song. I don't know if it should have been placed somewhere differently in the album sequence, or if it just doesn't completely fit.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 14 March 2010 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
I do think I was exaggerating before when I suggested that her songs on this album are really solely populated with projections of herself. I don't hear "Guilty" as Marina addressing herself, and I think it's a stretch to interpret "Obessions" that way too.
(Incidentally, there are a couple seconds of electronic squiggles in "Shampain" that remind me of something in a Shiina Ringo song, but I haven't tracked that one down yet, probably because it's been a while since I've listened to Shouso Strip.)
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 14 March 2010 13:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
'hollywood's swipes are not just at hollywood though, are they? calling an entire country 'a mess' is not a culture-specific assault like in 'girls', but is an attack (albeit in an affectionate, patronising kind of way) on a whole nation. and that stuff about the air hostess: gack!
sonically it's not a million miles from 'oh no!' (although it's more bloated, less effervescent) but the latter benefits from juxtaposed self deprecation, whereas 'hollywood's gaze turns outwards, so comes across as a little smug.
― m the g, Sunday, 14 March 2010 15:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
America is a mess, so as an American I have no problem with that, though I doubt Marina's list of what's wrong with the US would match mine too precisely.
In the course I reading interviews with her, I found one in which she said she was talking to herself in Hollywood. So I am perhaps being overly influenced by her own comments on it, but they do, after all, fit in with my own idea that she is talking to herself in a lot of the songs, even where it's not immediately obvious.
Still, I guess I have to agree it is her most stilted/pompous sounding song.
Have you noticed how often there is some stray sound at the end of a track? Easier to hear with headphones. Like the siren at the end of "Girls."
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 15 March 2010 02:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Listening to "Numb" at the moment and it really reminds me of big 70s production, with the strings and choir and everything (which is basically a good thing for me since the 70s is my favorite pop decade, even if this isn't necessarily my fave sound from the 70s).
I don't know why so many critics keep complaining about her lyrics. I think they are generally better than average (er, "Hollywood" aside, and maybe "Girls" as well). There are some imagistic threads that run through these songs (fast cars and stars, for instance--maybe she has been reading Dr. Seuss).
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 15 March 2010 02:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
This album has saturated my brain so much that I think I'm not enjoying other music as much as I would otherwise. I want more that sounds like this. (Yes, I know I've been posting about other things, but for the most part it's been "eh, this sounds pretty good.")
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 28 March 2010 09:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
I feel pretty certain she has at least a couple more good albums in her. The albums suggests lots of possible direction in which she could move, musically.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 28 March 2010 09:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
(Weird hours in a weird time zone. . .)
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 28 March 2010 09:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
Took a while to get around to getting a physical copy of the album, but loving it so far. I'd actually forgotten how much I liked the stuff I'd heard some time ago (Mowgli's Road, Obsessions) - they've really grown on me. I don't find her style annoying at all, but I do listen to a LOT of female singers with 'unique' voices, so I guess it doesn't stick out so much for me.
― Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 05:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
Too lazy to dissect (and incapable of doing it in terms of music theory), but one thing I particularly like in her songs is how often they go through a lot of changes. Multiple choruses. Coming out of a chorus and arriving somewhere new melodically, rather than returning to what came before. Etc.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 4 April 2010 23:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
She has a song which gets into the Libra thing (though not in a way I'd expect):
Lots of stuff of hers on youtube that I haven't noticed until now. Not necessarily great but it's actually pretty good.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 April 2010 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
How many of her songs are out there online already that weren't on the album?
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 April 2010 10:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
Most of the Mermaid vs. Sailor ep (which is really just crude bedroom demos and, truthfully, not so great). Everything else ended up on the album pretty much, but "Numb" and "Hollywood" were significantly bettered by the time of the album recordings.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 17 April 2010 10:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Some of this stuff sounds pretty good to me. Better than the fucking Bush Tetras. (Why the Bush Tetras I'm not sure except the raw demo quality of some of this leaves it sounding a bit post-punk at times.)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 April 2010 11:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
Saw a (song-by-song) interview with Marina in which she said that "The Outsider" was the song that had the most takes. Interesting to me because I guessed a long while back that "I'm a fucking wild card" would be the segment that had that massive number of takes that one of them had. She didn't mention that particular line, but it seems like something she would struggle with. (I no longer listen to this album all the time, but do throw it on pretty frequently. It's sounding good tonight.)
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 07:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh yeah, and she got all indignant in the interview, because the interviewer tosses off something like: "So was 'The Outsider' done pretty quickly in just a few takes?'" And she responds: "Why would you say that?" (or the like). I guess I should just find it:
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 07:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
She looks nice & Greek there, too, I must say.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 07:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Maybe from those outdoor concerts giving her some more color.
these interviews are really interesting, thanks. particularly the way she almost disowns 'girls'.
― m the g, Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
The thing I like most about her reception by the music press is that there's a genuine interest in the process. Nobody ever digs this deep into La Roux's motivations or techniques, they don't care about Shakira's writing trials and errors. Marina is sort of an open book that way.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 April 2010 19:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
If this is really the track-list for the U.S. release, I don't like what they've done with the sequencing. This may be a bit knee-jerk, but I think "Numb" is a bit too much of a downer as a closer, though maybe it's how she's feeling at the moment. "Guilty" was also a downer in a way, but it feels like the most personal revelation on the album, so coming at the end it felt like a sort of climax. Also, the abrupt ending seems to form a circle with the beginning (and its "hyper-meta" lyrical theme, which gives "Are You Satisfied?" a certain thematic abruptness).
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 02:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
Interesting that "Seventeen" comes back from the dead for the US version. While I doubt she'll have a big radio single, that's one of her better chances.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 02:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hmmm. I don't know. I like that song reasonably well, but I think some of the others might have a better chance. Like what? well maybe Hollywood, maybe Shampain, maybe even Mowgli's Road or I Am Not a Robot--probably I am dreaming though. Kind of hoping they will at least get a lot of college radio play (but maybe they already have).
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 02:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
This is blowing my mind again at the moment. So musical is what it comes down to.
Well I. . .
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 00:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
Video for "Oh No" just showed up. Bright and shiny!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hmmm. It's okay. The derriere of the dancer in blue is kind of subverting any pop self-critique going on here, but I don't take the pop critique angle that seriously to begin with. A bit much that Marina ends it with the same smile that "Hollywood" ends with (if I recall corretly).
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
can we talk about that video? it's so painful it needs a safety word
― little rattlesnaker, Monday, 19 July 2010 06:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
reminds me too much of this video in a not good way
― little rattlesnaker, Monday, 19 July 2010 06:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't know why I'm cutting her slack for being a giddy 23 year old, because I'd crucify anyone else who did that probably. tbh, I'm not listening to The Family Jewels with the regularity I used to, but I still think that in five years she'll be better instead of worse.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 July 2010 06:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's a bad video. I'm not listening to the album as much as I did initially--but why would I? Things rarely stay in such heavy rotation for me for long. I still love it though.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 19 July 2010 13:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
Such a clever album
― Anglophilia isn't a pathetic excuse for the previous post (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 September 2010 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
I didn't get that "Shampain" was a play on words – I was too dazzled by it fror the first 10 or so listens.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
Also I think I would marry this chick. Is that legal over there?
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yay! Abbott's on board!
"Shampain" was my favorite of hers long before the album, and it's still my favorite now.
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
gonna give this a good listen btw - sounds like I might approve - although I am v work-busy so verdict might take a while to arrive
She's only two years younger than me so it won't be too weird.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think she's dating one of the dudes from Hurts, but I'm sure they swing.
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Still my second favorite album of the year!
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think she's brilliant musically and I expect her next album will make more of a dent.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
I could beat this dude! I'll just start doing light eye makeup and dark lips so she & I contrast.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
Having been introduced to 'I Feel Love' a little earlier I'm struck by how much in that vein 'Shampain' is!
― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
I love "Oh No!" – I relate to the lyrics 90-100%. Plus it's just good uncut pop.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:24 (2 years ago) Permalink