T/S: Defamer v. Gawker

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Gruber wrote a decent commentary about full-text RSS feeds just a couple days ago.

If you’ve got a model where revenue is tied only to web page views, switching to full-content RSS feeds will hurt, at least in the short term. The problem, I say, isn’t with full-content RSS feeds, but rather with a business model that hinges solely on web page views. The precious commodity that we, as publishers, have to offer advertisers is the attention of our readers. Web page views are a terribly inaccurate, if not outright misleading, metric for attention. Subscribers to a full-content RSS feed are among the readers paying the most attention, but generate among the least web page views.

A reader asking for a full-content RSS feed is a reader who wants to pay more attention to what you publish. There have to be ways to thrive financially from that.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

probably a majority of newspaper writing is rewriting other people's work, and at least gawker tries to add jokes.

Tries is the operative word here.

ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

For those who want their full-content feed back:

http://twitter.com/nicknotned/status/10241832261

― ksh, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 5:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

thank u ksh, owe you one

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

probably a majority of newspaper writing is rewriting other people's work, and at least gawker tries to add jokes.

― joe, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 7:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a pretty dumb thing to say since what i linked was a concrete example of a print writer doing a lot of research and interviews the old-fashioned way, and explaining one of the things happening that's making it much less possible for writers to put that kind of work in (and, like, get paid for it) in the future.

Krusty Burgerizer (some dude), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 01:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

content that involves doing a lot of research and interviews the old-fashioned way is indeed v valuable and praise worthy - its also represents a tiny fraction of what actually gets published - a lot of what does get published is rewriting w/o attribution other outlets news stories -until the washpost et al cio themselves they should stfu

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

the reaction is still scary, not from the reporter, he can feel deflated because he's unlikely to make any extra money from the publicity (although the gawker guy would have from a link) but for an editor to think that gawker's way of doing things isn't analogous of internet usage in general. this is what i don't get, it's like the internet operates best in a certain way and then editors expect it to act like it should all be printed out tomorrow and sold in a newsagent

Popper, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

dope -- pareene is consistently great

goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wait, he's only 24?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

i had the same thought, Ned

ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, all those Gawk dudes are mad young and make me feel like a total failure tbh

pencil island (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

john cook too?

hmm, they have kind of lost their best two writers there

yella card THIS, yatches (history mayne), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

age ain't nothing but a number WGW

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well more like I'm calculating back how young he would have been when he was first on here. Which I guess isn't too surprising.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

how do you even get a job at 19. i'm confused.

goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

awesome <3

wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

I do like his writing far better than Ana Marie Cox's, whom he took over Wonkette from. She retained too much of the suck.com hipster nihilism.

requiem for crunk (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

he should post more imo

pencil island (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

well i guess im adding the salon war room to my google reader list

max, Thursday, 8 April 2010 02:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

http://gawker.com/5521236/the-definitive-guide-to-alex-pareene

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Why is Gawker so popular? The writing?

― kshighway (ksh), Monday, January 11, 2010

velko, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

:-)

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think it's the HTML coding actually

― fella, cutie (s1ocki), Monday, January 11, 2010 11:13 AM

ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

I have been reading War Room for years and I really hope that this kind of post is kept to a minimum, grasping at straws is a lot more tolerable when it's about celebs instead of politics.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/03/obama_drone_joke_jonas_brothers/index.html

musically, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

p@reene needs pageviews

velko, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Everyone who writes for a weekly or a blog is best friends and constantly giving each other hj's.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

WHO IS GHOST RIDER

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still in Jeopardy mode, I see.

Foster Brooks, You're Dead! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

grasping at straws = Obama is an asshole?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

cuz. he. is. a. homicidal. steward. of the. empire. who. likes. to. joke. about. it.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Jeopardy! answer:

a dinner that should get hit by a drone every year.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha otm

the rural führer (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

when dads can't make jokes about being overly protective of their daughters the terrorists win

musically, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 03:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

dads who haven't actually killed people "collaterally" still can

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

You know, it would've been Patriot missiles during the first Gulf War

um whut

the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh actually yeah, when you think about it, defending israel from scud missiles is a bit like the phoenix program. my bad.

the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

what?

max, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

But the problem isn't specifically with the joke itself. It's a sort of generic joke about the executive's unconstrained power that any postwar president could've delivered. You know, it would've been Patriot missiles during the first Gulf War, or jokes about the CIA or Secret Service disappearing people during the Cold War.

i guess my memory could be off, but was there something terribly unconstitutional/comparable-to-secret-assassinations-programs about the use of patriot missiles?

the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh i dont think so--i mean their use was controversial--but i think i think its kind of beside the point he wants to make

max, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

i can remember the war, but not any controversy, and their use doesn't seem to have any relation to "the executive's unconstrained power" (cough healthcare cough) nor be comparable to bad things the CIA did off the books

my guess is pareene was going all out relentless for the zing -- which is exactly what barry obam's "daily show" speechwriters were doing

game should recognize game

the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

mm

max, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

patriots shoot down other missles. he shoulda said tomahawks or the b2 bomber or something for a 90s tip /warnerd

goole, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 14:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

max!!!!!!!!!

:-O

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 May 2010 05:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

o shi

Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Monday, 10 May 2010 07:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

congrats dude

just sayin, Monday, 10 May 2010 08:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

get that money

just sayin, Monday, 10 May 2010 08:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

;^)

max, Monday, 10 May 2010 08:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

whoa just noticed that... right on my man

don't forget us little guy tumblr followers

sir gaga (s1ocki), Monday, 10 May 2010 12:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Now I have to read you BOTH? Sheeeeeit.

wasting time and money trying to change the weather (Laurel), Monday, 10 May 2010 14:14 (4 years ago) Permalink


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