Nick Drake: why???

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Dean Martin did "Just Like Heaven"????? Why didn't Nick Tosches tell me this?

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think a Dean Martin album of Nick Drake covers would have saved several lives.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Can I mention Elton John now?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 13:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

Who would have thought that Nick Drake's best mate at school would have had a worldwide number one in the eighties about his wife when he was actually having it off with the nanny?

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Me for a kick-off!

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

Pink moon is far from twee. So you are half right.

That's the one Nick Drake album I don't like.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bryter Later is entwined with perfect early summer evenings over looking the Calverley Grounds at Tunbridge Wells in 2003. Perfect mesh of music, time and place.

acrobat, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've not listened to it in about 5 years, but I seem to remember Pink Moon being perfect if I was in good mood and just as perfect if I was sad about something.

So yeah, it's probably twee.

Gukbe, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

Why is his music "twee"? Is all folk music twee?

Bimble, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Please. Nick Drake is not twee.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

is this a u.k - u.s divide? i know twee is strictly pejorative over there and isn't over here (as much), though I don't think it qualifies as twee either way personally a case could be made.

tremendoid, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wait, where do you think twee is strictly pejorative? I often think it's funny the way twee is sometimes used as a favorable or neutral descriptor and other times as a sneering insult, depending on who says it and how it's said.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

the u.k., i thought. My impression is that it didn't have any connotation over here (u.s.), so when people called sarah stuff or whatever 'twee' we just picked it up and ran with it as a neutral quasi-genre descriptor.
heh I've read 'twee as fuck' more than once, i have no excuse to be so fuzzy about such things.

tremendoid, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost

I think of "twee" as being specifically associated with Sarah records, bands like Heavenly, Talulah Gosh or I guess even Belle & Sebastian. I normally don't like that kind of music, so to me it is pejorative. I don't think it has much to do with nationality, really.

Now is the time to confess, though, that what I dread even more than the term "twee" applied to Nick Drake is "emo". I do believe there are special torture chambers in hell for people who would call him that.

Bimble, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

I didn't read the older parts of this thread earlie, but this:

No one wants Drake to turn out to the crowd and trying different things: his entire appeal is the way he stands in the corner with his back to you, clutching his guitar and mumbling mournfully. The whole point of listening is to somehow squeeze yourself between him and the corner walls, where you can hear him.

Is amazing. Nabisco, that is awesome, and spot on.

Trayce, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I confess I'm a Nabsico fan, too. Amen.

Bimble, Saturday, 2 June 2007 03:42 (6 years ago) Permalink


So leave your house come into my shed
Please stop my world from raining through my head

Sigh. So lovely. So sad. So right.

Trayce, Saturday, 2 June 2007 03:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think the first time I heard "Road" off of Pink Moon was my awakening to quite how beautiful and powerful music can be.

Pretty much responsible for everything I've loved about music ever since.

Uptoeleven, Saturday, 2 June 2007 13:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Road" is oftentimes my favorite Nick Drake song and is also proof that Nick Drake has the most incredible fingerpicking technique of anyone ever.

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I can't make my thumb move like that.

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Road" is definitely some super badass guitar playing.

As for twee, the origin of the term as a musical descriptor is definitely British, but I've heard it used in the US.

I lived in England for a bit but I'm not sure I ever actually heard anyone say it over there. I believe that it may have started as a strictly pejorative term, but then so did "baroque." I think it's all about context, really. Some people love twee and some people hate it. I just think it's funny the way both groups seem to use the term without explanation and expect their audience to know whether they mean it as a compliment or an insult.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 2 June 2007 22:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Dave Grohl, Heath Ledger and Norah Jones: why?

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

A forthcoming album celebrating the cult singer-songwriter will include controversial footage of the late Heath Ledger simulating suicide to Drake's Black Eyed Dog. Nice!

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure the Drake family will be delighted, they've never accepted his death was suicide - but who cares what they think anyway, eh?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

that footage in question is pretty cool. very sombre.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

NJones did "Day is done" as the b-side to Nick Drake's own "River Man" single.

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

David Schulhof, co-founder and co-CEO of EverGreen Copyrights, made the announcement at the MidemNet conference this week. His company controls the US rights for several deceased artists, including Drake and Roy Orbison.
(...)

"Fans are willing to pay for (this) kind of product," Schulhof said, speaking of the tribute.

Blimey, tell it like it is or wot?

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

Saw the thread revive, read the exchanges at inception, and thought of the solo in Black Eyed Dog and then realised I'd already posted about it, so, here it is again:

I stand by what I said upthread, in that I love FFL pretty much whole, but only find other songs beyond that really compelling. I like Drake, and loved him, possibly, for a while when I was about 17.

Consistency or un-variation I don't see as a problem at all; in fact an artist exploring their aesthetic over a number of years and records is often very compelling.

Possibly the crux of Drake for me, and the moment which proves he's not just an emotional one-trick pony, is the miraculous, soaring, joyous (to me, at any rate) acoustic guitar solo which sears through the centre of "Black Eyed Dog"; possibly it's Drake's saddest tune, his most defeated - he certainly sounds to me as if he's crying as he sings it - and then this solo tears the song in two, elevates the mood incredibly, exposes blue skies where there was really only black before.

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Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder

straightola, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

A forthcoming album celebrating the cult singer-songwriter will include controversial footage of the late Heath Ledger simulating suicide to Drake's Black Eyed Dog

WTF! that's the strangest thing to put on a tribute album ever.

Ludo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Are there any other songs that Ledger was filmed simulating suicide to? Is this something he did often?

Mark, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

that footage in question is pretty cool. very sombre.

"Two Ears" Laybelle (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

What was "the Ledge" listening to when he died, eh? Eh?

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Meet On The Ledge?

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Fleetwood Mac, "The Ledge"

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Close to the Ledit"

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Hey, what'd you do last night?"

"We decided to stay home-- wound up watching footage of Heath Ledger simulating suicide to Nick Drake's 'Black Eyed Dog'."

Mark, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Cool, what a nice way to celebrate the memory of Nick"

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm holding out for:

Heath Ledger Simulating Suicide to the Music of Nick Drake: The Criterion Collection

Mark, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah i was WEIRDED out by the news (i wrote that gruniad article) but uh edited out all my joke-joke-jokes after reflection on the whole er suicide angle.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

There isn't anything about this thing that doesn't make me want to puke.

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

words fail me, what a sick world.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

that footage in question is pretty cool. very sombre.

I was expecting farcial slapstick.

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

a bunch of unrehearsed session musicians trying to accompany a man who obviously knows his own songs pretty well is never a recipe for success

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

cool!

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is going to rock SO HARD.
actually i think there's some recordings of her singing in one of the drake documentaries, and it's pretty nice stuff, you can tell that she influenced nick quite a bit. sort of seems like releasing something by the dude's mom would be the ultimate in barrel scraping, but i am curious to hear it.

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

ian macdonald's essay on drake is classic.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh here's a radio show about her: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/spinning/2012/apr/22/

tylerw, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink


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