"Born to Run" by Bruce Springsteen -- who really enjoys this overproduced crappy glop?

My point was actually the opposite. Someone who genuinely can't find anything of value in the entire Motown catalog really shouldn't be worrying about Bruce Springsteen as his has much bigger problems to conquer.

and this will sound like a backhanded compliment, but it sort of makes me think of his dislike for bruce (who i also adore as you all know) and others in a new light, makes me respect it more, for i feel more certain that it's totally sincere and not knee-jerk.

anyway i hope he doesn't react negatively to this because--perhaps it's somewhat mysterious why--my respect for alex just jumped up several notches.

Now occurs to me that most of the hard saxophone references were in slightly outside or arty contexts, so still don't have too many examples. Sonics good example though. I should probably drop this.

I'm curious how many people who don't like Bruce have been converted by seeing him live? Or perhaps the opposite scenario?

rolling stones, "happy"
rolling stones, "tumbling dice"
little willie john, "i'm shakin"

Is there a sax on "Rocks Off"?

But I harbor a nostalgic fondness for "Who Can it Be Now?" and thus we may have a winner in Men at Work.

(The corollary, however, is that I expect that Alex in NYC would Springsteen's British equivalent, if such a freak-of-nature existed.)

Just wanted to see that phrase again.

Rigorous scientific studies have determined that the right amount of glockenspiel is 23.7 milliglockens. Any less or more is, well, wrong.

Or "I've got a fever and the only prescription is... more glockenspiel!"

And if we're still talking saxophones, a special mention to Gil Bernal, whose slapstick-funny solos enlivened the early Coasters (and Robins) records. My favourite rock and roll sax playing on any non-Fun House record.

Love those Glockenspiel wisecracks! Now try "flugelhorn" or "BigMuff".

xpost.. (Ken L is one of my favorite ILM posters these days...)

Thanks, Dave. I hope you didn't read the rest of my posts to this thread. I think we first crossed paths with
this post

Elvis Costello, maybe, if you really want to stretch things ("British" possibly encompassing different ideas of fashion, pop romanticism, mixed-up-kid sentiment and bitterness). Or, for one album, the Clash ("The Card Cheat", anyone?)

- Yeah, i've heard that there's a huge amount of mutual love between Suicide and Springsteen...somewhat inexplicably. On an entirely unrelated note, I've read that the intro to "With Or Without You" by U2 is modelled after the intro to "Cheree" by Suicide.

- Why do I dislike Motown (I'd prefer not to waste the word "hate" on Motown. I don't think Berry Gordy et al. should be viciously maimed or anything, I just don't like the music). I don't know. Perhaps it's because it's so "steadfastly cannonical" (though, admittedly, I do have a great amount of love for certain other music that is equally cannonized, so go know). It just doesn't speak to me. Maybe it's "The Big Chill"'s fault. Whatever. Smokey Robinson's never done anything for me. I loathe everything about Dianna Ross. I suppose the Temptations were alright, but nothing I'd ever get excited about. Marvin Gaye is probably the only artist on the roster I'd ever actively choose to listen to (or, more likely, the one Motown artist I wouldn't actively turn off.) It's just not my music, that's all.

- This morning, the Springsteen tune in question -- as Q104 apparently must play at least one Bruce track every morning -- was "Thunder Road," the opening piano & harmonica intro of which made me sigh balefully.

The corollary, however, is that I expect that Alex in NYC would Springsteen's British equivalent, if such a freak-of-nature existed

Billy Bragg maybe? Yeah, he's alright....a bit more restrained in the studio than Bruce.

Sax solos I don't mind:
- "Urgent" by Foreigner
- "A Night Like This" by the Cure
- various bits of Wish You Were Here and Dark Side.. by the `Floyd
- Anything/everything by James Chance

WA-UH-EH-OH-EH-OO-OH!

Oh wrongity wrongy wrong.

my own answer is strongly implied in how i worded the above question, of course.

This is very interesting, on a number of other musically related levels I don't even feel like going into right now.

Early Billy Bragg ("Back To Basics" CD compilation of vinyl stuff is absolutely essential) is at least 7 times more brilliant than Springsteen. Just him and his guitar. He should have stuck with that formula, even if I appreciate a few things here and there of his later stuff.

I don't think Berry Gordy et al. should be viciously maimed or anything, I just don't like the music)

Well that's good. Because Berry Gordy's record label Qwest was the first record company in the U.S. to release New Order records.

Also, if you can't deal with Diana Ross, well, fair enough. But you must watch "Lady Sings The Blues" someday and tell me it's not a good movie, first. As for me, I'm still racked with guilt for not having Marvin Gaye's "What Goes On" album despite meaning to purchase it for years.

Confession: Strangely I always enjoyed Foreigner's "Urgent". I never bought the record, but it had a certain resonance. In fact, when I first discovered as a kid that there were big books about rock n'roll at the library, it seems to me that song was in my head looking through those books. They talked about the Knack in those books. Stuff like that.

Cure are very fine indeed on "A Night Like This", saxophones or no.

I thought Qwest was Quincy Jones' label.

the grimly station bar jukebox five (every fucken time, much to the old regulars' annoyance):

meat loaf: two out of three ain't bad OR dead ringer for love
brooce: born in the usa (why not born to run? i dunno)
simon and garfunkel: the boxer
bowie: heroes
neil diamond: forever in blue jeans

now that is music to drink to