Daniel, did you ever listen to Ys?
― Turangalila, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i have ys (drag city used to be on emusic back then). i like the compositions and arrangements, but her voice was offputting for me.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFwNO6xIkk&feature=related
lol
― booty claps and harp solos (leavethecapital), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
"sad but true"
hahaha, she's great
― ksh, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I hate that so many of her past songs seemed so off-the-cuff. I really want to enjoy "Inflammatory Writ," for example, and share with people I know. The lyrics are interesting and it SHOULD be catchy and pleasant. But it really is not too enjoyable to hear someone's voice crack like that. It detracts from what should be a great song. Was there no more tape or disk space available to try another take? Ridiculous self-sabotage.
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
oh snaphttp://www.nowtoronto.com/daily/story.cfm?content=173954
― lmfao @ credulity (velko), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
u think andy samberg will beat him up
― max, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
typical--Now Toronto's anti-unicorn stance is well known. that review is no surprise
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Seven thousand copies? Vampire Weekend, just to compare with another major indie release, did 125,000 in their first week with the same awareness level, and far more critical detractors.
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
in no way is that surprising or notable
same awareness level? on what fucking planet? in what magical unicorn forest?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not too hard to figure out why her record sold far fewer copies
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anyone remember about a month ago when the editor-in-chief at Pitchfork, Scott Plagenhoef, came out swinging on a message board about how people underestimate his website’s influence in the industry? Well they gave this record and Newsom’s last one near-perfect ratings, so draw your own conclusions there. http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/774/774333/the-gauntlet-is-thrown-down-20070320040356055.jpg
― lmfao @ credulity (velko), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao @ canadian bloggers
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
influence != every record they praise highly must sell a lot of copies
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
It makes you wonder if these sub par sales figures are less a failure on the part of Newsom or an indictment on the waning influence of music criticism.
O_O
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
it's all over
― tylerw, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
dismantle the blogosphere
― inertia of movement gave it the goal parabola (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
can't believe i lived to see the end of blogs
― lmfao @ credulity (velko), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess this is the end of pitchfork's vast influence--sorry scott
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
mayans foretold blog critic extinction by 2012
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
what am i going to read now, ilx??
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
a book???
i had three rasin bagels this morning b/c of P4k's influence iirc
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
loooooool @ the title change
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Has Drag City ever had a "hit" out of the gate? It's not what they do, at all. They don't even advertise.
― can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
(Er, they advertise heavily with posters and the like, but nothing in magazines et al.)
― can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
She has beautiful and unique voice, but I must admit I’m amongst the shrugging classes on this one. Maybe I’m not smart enough to understand Newsom’s brilliant lyrical innovation, twisted phrases and eccentric anachronistic nuances.
http://www.rutterorganization.com/Images/caveman.jpg
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
waning influence of not advertising
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
"Meanwhile, Sade, a much less artistically complicated singer who represents simple concepts of romantic experience, though ignored by the tastemaking websites and tepidly received by old establishment media critics, is selling records hand over fist."
In the benighted past, artistically complex, critically acclaimed triple albums are a license to print money because everyone based their purchasing decisions on the opinions of critics. Finally their iron grip on popular taste has been broken!
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
"a much less artistically complicated singer who represents simple concepts of romantic experience"
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/blog/nicholson-thumb.jpg
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/matsononmusic/2011299572_joanna_newsom_is_bringing_lyri.html?prmid=head_main
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― guapism rules (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I see a 3D unicorn in there.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
The creek is lying flat and stillIt is water though it's frozen
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/05/07/2009193213.jpg
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
DEAR SEATTLE, GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE
― guapism rules (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
As in hiphop, so it was in other pop musics: the aughts devalued lyrics.
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Now, rarely do songs bring one back for the audio equivalent of a poetry class's "close reading."
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Most articles, regardless of topic should have a concluding graf that begins: "Meanwhile, Sade ..."
― tylerw, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
"here's an attempted transcription"
hey douchetruck get a physical copy
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"an example of Newsom's wordstyle"
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
she's bringin lyrics back (YEAH)them other singers don't know how to act (YEAH)
― we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
The extended piano/voice/lonely trumpet breakdown toward the end is just lung-collapsingly beautiful.
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
FROM THE COMMENTS:
Some really good observations about JoNew here, but you're overlooking the whole crop of "literate" rock that emerged in the '00s: Death Cab, the Decemberists, Two Gallants, Okkervil River, M. Ward, Newsom herself (her first album came out in '94). These weren't exceptions to a rule but a strong, valid set of artists maintaining a tradition. In pop music, lyricism always battles with the immediacy of sonic flourish, but it's never disappeared.
http://anatomy.med.umich.edu/radiology/xray/images/collapsed_lung_child.gif
― lmfao @ credulity (velko), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
You call her JoNew in the night, don't you.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
it collapsed after the privileging of the immediacy of sonic flourish
― ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
note to self: never write in a manner evocative of the phrase "lung-collapsingly beautiful" ever again because it makes you look like a big dick
― we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link